Bungie CEO Claims Layoffs Were Due to Destiny 2 Underperformance - IGN

Man, how about you rather try to not make the game an insufferable grind fest. I love the gameplay so much, but each time I decide to log back in and give it another go it doesn't take long before that fun layer is peeled back and I see the grind lurking underneath.

It’s fucking ridiculous that CEO’s make decisions that make players dislike a game or product yet the workers are the ones getting laid off. I doubt any of the regular employees had a say in the shitty DLC decisions.

Now I will say that a game company maybe doesn't need 1100 employees. That's just intuitively oversized, at least to me.

That being said, I cannot imagine a substantial amount of money, that could trivially uphold those jobs, is being wasted on middle management positions which will not be part of these layoffs (of course, they never are), bonuses and C-suite yachts. Plus, the company had no game release sind 2017, maybe not performing too well financially is, well, expected? That is, certainly the wise CEO put significant sums of money from the highly successful early years of Destiny 2 aside to easily cushion the leaner years later instead of blowing it all on cocaine and hookers, right? Otherwise, why would someone keep that management around that cannot even do something as simple as cushioning money? Right? 😑

I hate how this never affects the people who are actually responsible for the losses. You never get the C's sued to take the bonuses back they got blown up their arses. You never get all the excessive layers of middle management removed. No, they always let go of the actual workers, who could do fuck all to prevent it to begin with.

Destiny 2 has overperformed for years. If they couldn’t see the playerbase getting less happy with paying ridiculous sums for seasonal DLC I don’t know what to tell them. Everyone who’s even casually played could have told you this.

D2 has made most of the money it’s going to at this point. There are no new players.

The CEO has to go because they failed to deliver? Right? I mean that’s why they get paid so much, to take responsibility. Now they will face the consequences of their failure! No?

In their defense, Destiny 2 did morph into a vast turd over its lifetime. Terrible story, terrible characters, repetitive gameplay, zero innovation. Gog is full of 15$ games with much more to offer than Destiny 2 ever had. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I hate that they make it sound, as if it's an impossible issue to solve. It's underperforming because new people can't figure out what to do in the game, and veterans cannot find enough things to do. You can only play crucible for so long.

They clearly have the artists and the engineers to do this, but they put all of that effort into new cash shop skins, rather than game content

STOP MAKING SHITTY GAMES

Enshittification.

Layoffs were actually due to inept leadership.

I always found it kinda sad that Destiny has a lot of lore, but if you are a new player / returning player you can't experience the lore that you have missed because it's just removed from the game.

I stopped playing when the first dlc dropped. Honestly if they stuck with their original vision of destiny and kept the first game going I would have probably stuck with it.

I miss the halo era of bungie. Bring that bungie back lol

The last thing workers want to hear is "the right people" when they see their friends and colleagues laid off. I was at a company that said that after a round of layoffs, the CEO got absolutely roasted for saying it.

Destiny 2 came out in 2017. Maybe make a new game, instead of trying to leech off of the old one for 6 years?

Bungie milked their audience with a hard drive occupying piece of shit. The design of Neomuna was crap. The characters were crap. The story was awful. The level design was amateurish at best.

It makes me mad that I have an addictive itch that needs scratching.

Then stop pushing the player base away with predatory profiteering tactics.

This is on leadership, not the workers. It's a shame they have to suffer for the mistakes of a profit greedy leadership team.

Stop selling overpriced expansions that never go on sale with a new one coming every week.

Cmon at least Sims 4 does bundles and shit

What’s new this season? Another grind fest and a mission you have to run hundreds of times, just like last season? Man it never gets old does it?

I'm that case, just wait until Marathon fails epicly.

Despite what others are saying, the game is fine (at least compared to its previous state/status)... They've made a lot of changes to improve the onboarding experience and remove pain points. They've made things less grindy and more engaging every expansion.

The last DLC just had kind of a meh story to it, "the discovery of strand." The environment they used also wasn't all that pretty or interesting. It wasn't snow, it wasn't a swamp, it was a minimalistic city-scape with some canyons.

That, plus increased pricing and over dramatization of the loss of the red war and foresaken content (which wasn't even that good compared to the new stuff mind you -- it was extremely short and grindy) has almost definitely caused the profit loss.

Not to mention, playlist activities still feel bland... Implement map voting and modifier voting, and make a higher difficulty playlist for PvE content. I swear once you're caught up, it's either stomp over everything in the same 5 maps over and over, or face the exact same somewhat challenging (or extremely challenging) encounter over and over for an entire week. They have all this content they could open up to high end rewards and mutators, but they don't.

So it sounds like the developers had a better bead on why D2 has been losing numbers and there's no way for them to provide feedback. And as a result, they were probably tied into the layoffs. Talk about some obvious mismanagement. The wrong person was laid off.

Does anyone else have a fuckton of raid banners because EGC is so overly fucking complicated and super costly to have your team wiped after an hour of play to the point that you cannot scrape together enough players that KWTD or want to grind to make it worthwhile?

Yeah. That’s why.

There’s only so much crucible a person can take. And trials oozes with player toxicity. Gambit was kinda fun at first but now it’s rife with balancing issues which the devs seem to have lost all interest in addressing.. And for whatever reason the most recent clothing styles are hideous so even the aesthetics are not exactly grabbing attention.