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‘This is not cancel culture’: DeSantis defends call to ban pro-Palestinian groups at Florida colleges

www.politico.com ‘This is not cancel culture’: DeSantis defends call to ban pro-Palestinian groups at Florida colleges

“You have a right to go out and demonstrate, but you can't provide material support to terrorism," he said.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis defended his call to ban pro-Palestinian groups from Florida state colleges Sunday, after one of his Republican presidential primary opponents, Vivek Ramaswamy, slammed the demand as “a shameful political ploy.”

“It’s unconstitutional. It’s utter hypocrisy for someone who railed against left-wing cancel culture,” Ramaswamy posted on X (formerly Twitter) Thursday, alleging that it violates students’ right to free speech.

DeSantis held firm Sunday.

“This is not cancel culture. This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the Hamas attack, that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Hamas movement,” DeSantis said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

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It's only cancel culture when it happens to fascists.
- To be fair he's right. It's not cancel culture. It's institutional racism.
  
  I don't agree with anything DeSantis says but Define race? I'm not seeing this leap.

desantis didn't say anything when literal nazis were hanging out with desantis flags in front of disney world so really i don't wanna hear from him on this.
- He retweeted a DeSantis promotional video a fan made, which featured Nazi imagery.
  
  FYI -- The "fan" was later found to be on staff, unless we're thinking of different events, which, sadly is always possible!
- Well, pretty sure he'd be marching with them if there weren't any cameras.

- These are the eggshell stickers I should be seeing at gas pumps.

The party of small government everyone!
- Came here to say this.
  Not that fascists care at all that others point out their hypocrisy. They don't hold themselves to any standards, so if they are hypocrites, it simply does not matter.
  
  I had a friend who was radicalized during the pandemic by LoTT's original account, and he doesn't seem to care about the fact he likes yuri and loli stuff, all while calling LGBTQ+ people "pedophiles". He just responds with the gigachad meme and a "who cares". (Ironically he does think of male-on-male shota as pedophilic, likely he just calls sex acts he doesn't like as such.)

Cancel culture, no. Blatant violation of the first amendment? Probably.
- Por que no los dos?

Also when it comes to the radicalized right wing and their rhetoric about Palestinians, anyone else reminded of the way the right would talk about South Africa?

Hate this guy. Fuck Israel.
- Hate this absolute ghoul as well. Fuck Hamas.
  
  Indeed
  
  So you think Palestine should just let themselves get genocided?

"This group, they themselves said, in the aftermath of the [shooting], that they don’t just stand in solidarity that they are part of this Christian nationalist movement." Sound familiar?
But do go off about how it's not what you called "cancel culture."
Edit: To be clear, I'm aware that cancel culture is just "moderation" rebranded to scare right wing idiots into a tribal mindset.
- It's cancel culture when it happens to them. When they do it, it's called boycotting.
  
  Except that's not really how boycotting works when they do dumb shit like buy shoes just to set them on fire.
- Nah, cancel culture is real. They are the primary ones that wield it. They simply call being held responsible, cancel culture in an effort to distract everyone from that fact.
  
  Very true. Just like they are the biggest proponents of political correctness. The actual kind, not the basic human decency they have rebranded as "political correctness". Just see how they behave if someone does not do the right thing around a piece of cloth (flag) or when someone violates expected rituals done when a certain song is played (anthem) at a....checks notes....sportsball game.
  Same thing for their accusations of others being emotional, being a snowflake, engaging in culture wars and so on.
  It's always projection with them.

Cancel culture? That's not what it means. This is censorship culture.
- Desantis doesn't want people educated, he wants them angry
- That's not what it means
  That's because "cancel culture" doesn't actually mean anything.
  
  For more meaningless I’d look to woke. Being cancelled does mean something specific. As far as a “culture” of it, yeah, not so sure.

I'm wondering how many of the current commentors actually read the article, lol. Firstly. The title is wrong as he's only challenging ONE group. Students for Justice in Palestine, so that's click bait.
DeSantis is making a claim that the group he's basing this on has claimed solidarity with Hamas, a terrorist organization. Like, should we be letting pro Hamas people just float around collage campuses?
Now, that's what we should be looking at. We should be asking if this is just a racist political stunt. If you look up Students for Justice in Palestine, you'll see articles claiming they have put out messages that are anti Semitic and pro hamas in nature. The chapter at this Florida school has apparently made it abundantly clear they are pro hamas. Professors and pro Jewish groups have written the management at the school and have been writing their representatives to address this issue.
Can you chuds fucking read and think for yourself? Like, yeah I hate DeSantis as much as the next guy but if you just shovel this biased political shit into your brain without a second thought you're not better than any republican who posts hurrr durrr liberals on Facebook.
If you don't take the time to actually look passed the headline, then you have no idea if this is a dickwad with too much power or if this is something else entirely. You don't know if this is a targeted racist effort against students or if these are pro hamas students openly supporting (and potentially financially supporting) Hamas
And just to add, you can be against this decision, saying it's not the government's duty to handle religious and cultural affiliations of students. But at least actually know why you'd be against it, ffs
Edit: further, he's not banning them, he's only deactivating their official status, which means they cannot access school funds or materials for their purposes. They are still free to gather as any group has a right to.
- The problem is hypocrisy. If you allow actual Nazi's to walk around with swastikas in public...well this is the same.
  
  That's a very valid argument, yeah
- It's not up to the government to decide that. That's the whole point of the first amendment.
  This is assuming they don't move past words.
  
  I addressed that
- When did they say this? Also when his ass was quiet when literal Nazis paraded around, he can stay quiet now
  
  I addressed that in a lower comment, yeah
- Do you believe pro-IDF groups should be allowed on campuses despite the fact that they are genocidal collaborators?
  
  No one is being banned from campus, and as long as the group isn't just a generic Jewish group, as long as they have come out in support of the actions of Isreals military, then yes I would agree with a deactivation

Bruh……..

He and Pence should sit down and talk about what kind of shenanigans they can come up with at the all white country club. It's the only place they can go because no one else wants to elect them or hang with them.
- Well maybe they don't want to hang with them...

Someone should tell DeSADIST that no matter how much he punches down on marginalized groups, he just doesn't have the hateful branding that little d does, and never will. At least little d has a weird kind of charisma that appeals to a certain type of person. DeSADIST just doesn't have it, no matter how many elevator cowboy boots or white go-go boots he hobbles around in.
As stupid as it is, humans are still selecting their leaders by height, which is bad news for ronnie. Little d lies about his height (and weight), but he's probably around 6 feet.
- Ron DeathSentence

I'm personally surprised Ramaswamy of all folks is the one bashing it for being unconstitutional
You'd think he'd shrink from that line of attack considering his flagship policy is to throw one of the most recent amendments in the fucking trash.
- A broken clock is right twice a day. It happens.

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