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1y ago

Just Started Using Revolt (Discord Alternative)

Find your community, connect with the world. The chat platform that puts you first.

So far I really like it, anyone else using it? I'm really considering setting up the discord bridge and just using revolt

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Revolt: FOSS Discord Alternative

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Revolt, a new privacy-friendly OPEN SOURCE messaging app. - Thoughts?

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It's not decentralized and e2ee is not implemented.
- +1 for this
  Matrix https://matrix.org is a decentralized alternative
  there's a wrapper for matrix Rocket Chat (a wrapper of matrix) https://www.rocket.chat/
  
  Matrix only partially has e2ee and its e2ee is time based and breaks under high latency
- Sometimes a public utility doesn't need to be decentralized to function effectively
  
  It helps, but also the lack of e2ee is a pretty hard sell..
  
  then let me introduce you to IRC
- Then Mastodon are not for you either. Nothing is stored encrypted there.
  
  Mastodon is not a real time chat

Honestly it's just going from one bad app host (discord) to another that could be less bad but still has all your data (revolt). You can host your own revolt server but you won't be able to join any of revolts servers. Matrix is just plain better for privacy and security. I do like to see more alternatives out there tho
- The problem with matrix is that the standard isn't standardized. Its constantly changing and the matrix server software is buggy
  edit: just to be clear I'm not saying revolt is better
  
  Can you go into more depth about why this is a problem on the server side? On client side, I found a few clients that work well and its been easy breezy since then.
  
  XMPP it is, then.

Why not Element/Matrix?
- Revolt is simple and works almost exactly the same as Discord. Element requires understanding federation, and it's "spaces" feature is not the same as Discord "servers".

How is it different from discord?
- way different, it's open source
- Doesn't track you like discord does to remain "free"
  You audit the code for security and privacy issues
  You can self-host or fork the code for yourself if you ever need to build a backup because some idiot decided to purchase the original revolt project and decided to screw with it
  It has an open source license so the software can never be privatized, it's essentially a public utility; for everyone by everyone
  Our Story:
  The Revolt project originally started back in 2019 by a group of three students from the United Kingdom and the Czech Republic, looking for an alternative to the already emerging, closed-source chat platforms. Our main focus for the project was to create an open-source, completely compromise-free platform that offered all of the same features and competed against other chat apps
  Revolt is made with collaborative effort, and if you like coding it makes it so if you can to try and code stuff to add custom functionality or plugins or whatever else. Like a public utility you can add to it and develop it communally, though in this case it would be a public utility serving a public with a population of just you. But because of the GPL license Revolt uses, it makes it so that you need to share your changes. Whatever form the source code takes, it remains a public utility until perpetuity.
- I'd like to know, too. Especially considering most servers I'm on are unlikely to switch.
  
  They only thing missing is voice for gaming.

Really wish that IRC allowed to have all the new bells and whistles that Discord has. Avatars, in-line images and videos, streaming rooms, etc…
- matrix?
  
  Is matrix not a separate protocol?

yet another other miserable attempt at doing IRC
- It has been a long time since I used IRC, but or it has changed a lot or it's not similar.
  Could you send inline images? Could you assign granular permission and roles ? Can have several rooms with access and visibility control of each of them? Can you make audio rooms? Can you react to mensages?
  
  Right. Discord, Revolt, Guilded etc. are heavily inspired by IRC but they modernized it by adding more features. Right now they are so much more than IRC.
  
  I've never had the need for any of those things. A text-only chat is a cleaner and better chat. Specially reactions, those are rather absurd and irritating.
  Audio is definitely a different use case, and Mumble works great for that. You can just host both on the same domain and be done with it. You could even write a client that supports both IRC and Mumble if you wanted to, instead of constantly reinventing the wheel.
  And I'm sure you could implement in-line images in IRC if you wanted, after all Twitch's chat is IRC and they have images.

Revolt was okay when I briefly used it, however I don't like the developers
- Are you maybe confusing it with? https://www.revolut.com/en-US/
  
  Never heard of it
- What's up with them?
  
  They are uninformed politicaly and have banned people for saying there Christian. (So I've been told)
  It also is a centralized service

Remember: Revolt =\ Revolut

Sounds nice but we all know the majority won't make the switch from Discord so it's sadly but most probably a stillbirth.
- The only stillbirth here is discord.
  
  Huh? Discord is very much alive and popular.

What communities are there on Revolt? Anything big? Like GrapheneOS, Linux Mint, Signal, Monero?
I know that Matrix has their communities.

I tried self hosting my own using their docker compose file. The text chat works just fine and is lovely but the voice part was totally broken for me. To be fair it explicitly says in the settings page they're rewriting the entire voice subsystem so I'll try again in the future

How can I search for Revolt communities?
- https://rvlt.gg/discover/servers
- there probably is a list on the revolt discord 😵‍💫
  
  Revolut is a different thing

I've heard they like to ban people for disagreeing with them or being christian. So no, I'll just stay away.
Also it seems pretty centralized so there is no reason they couldn't start do something questionable
- Really? That sounds fucked up but I don't trust hearsay so easily.
  
  https://www.reddit.com/r/revoltchat/comments/15q4kq1/banned_me_because_i_said_i_believe_in_god/
- Wait WHAT
  
  https://www.reddit.com/r/revoltchat/comments/15q4kq1/banned_me_because_i_said_i_believe_in_god/

Nah I think I prefer Matrix. The Revolt servers have that same unproductive samesy flair as discord.
Femboy server uwu cutesy safe (but slightly horny) space. Trans programmer server yay!!
It's all junk. Matrix has less, but the servers I'm in are trying to do something new. They're trying to fight the patterns and habits and create something more mindful, safe, and engaging.
- Sounds like these are the only servers you’ve joined
  
  Hmm? I just scrolled through 100 of the top Revolt servers.

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