Gaza aid stuck as Egypt says Israel not cooperating - Reuters
Egypt said on Monday that Israel was not cooperating with delivery of aid into Gaza and evacuations of foreign passport holders via the only entry it does not wholly control, leaving hundreds of tonnes of supplies stuck.
Is Netanyahu really just trying to see what he can get away with at this point?
I don't think there's an "at this point", rather it's something he's always tried doing. Corrupt authoritarians/fascists constantly try to push the boundaries and once they go too far, they either go "it was a joke/accident/misunderstanding" or they double down on it. Putin doubled down the last time he went too far, I wonder what Netanyahu will do.
Why would he stop now?
Seems like it. Crazy how much leeway Israel gets, any other country doing this wouldn't have as much support.
I hope the US puts its foot down hard at some point.
As long as he has the backing of the US he'll operate with impunity. I dont think he cares what any other country thinks.
War crimes for thee but not for me.
The prisoners have to be punished brutally for daring to retaliate against their conditions.
Lemmy has this weird thing of justifying mass execution of civilians...
You need to be more specific. Are you talking about the civilians inside the prison? Or the civilians outside the prison?
I assume you're trying to construe these kinds of statements as support or justification for Hamas' attack. That's mostly not the case. I don't think many people condone it. I know I find it unjustifiable. However I think the reasons why it happened are explainable and at least somewhat understandable.
The conditions the Palestinians have been driven to , largely by the Israeli military/government and the illegal settlers have created a situation where they feel there aren't many other options. It doesn't make the attacks any less horrific. It doesn't make the attacks right. It doesn't make them justified. But it does make them practically inevitable.
It's weird how I have no idea what side you're on.
Which civilians are you talking about?
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Israel is going to slow down cooperating as long as they can, so there's as much death as possible, while still being able to say they allowed them to live.
Yeah, they will ultimately cooperate as the USA and Europe increasingly go "hey guys, please no genocide", but as slow and as little as they can.
Reading between the lies, it looks like Biden is trying to really hammer home the message that Hamas is different from Palestinian civilians and that the latter should be protected. Abbas issued a condemnation of Hamas after Biden spoke with him, even though initially Abbas excused the attack.
We'll have to see how successful it is. Judging from who they're asking to stay quiet on this, I think Biden and only the highest ranking officials are trying to back channel here.
Yeah, was listening to BBC this morning -Tim Franks interviewing Israeli intelligence about allowing fuel through to get water pumps going again. It was very clear the answer was no, but they refused to say so directly. The interviewee became hostile and kept going on about how hamas uses these people as human shields. ... Is the west supposed to think dying of thirst the more humanitarian option? Is that what they're going for? jfc
Someone said the pipes are too fucked by the bombing and TBH that makes sense. But assuming they're ok, can you even get water pumps going again safely?
I've heard that pipes always leak and you need to keep constant pressure in the lines so the leak is out into the soil instead of losing pressure and letting the dirt and bacteria leak back into the water supply.
I suppose dirty water can be boiled and is better than water with heavy metals.... Anybody with any actual experience wanna speak up about this?
Can someone eli5 me why the Israeli airstrikes inside Gaza mean Egypt can't open the border?
It is almost like Israel doesn't want this aid to reach Gaza.
Because last week Israel bombed the Gaza side of the border checkpoint multiple times.
My understanding is they'd need Israeli cooperation to ensure the area Gaza-side would be safe from bombardment.
They bombed the crossing once. They can and will do it again to enforce their blockade.
Israel own a 100m strip at the border. It can't be opened unless Israel agrees.
Do you have a source for this? Everything I’ve read has stated that that border is controlled by Egypt and Hamas.
This is very bad,at leadt the aid should be allowed
It's only a war crime if you lose the war
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Cairo says the Rafah crossing, a potentially vital opening for desperately-needed supplies into the Israeli-besieged Palestinian enclave, is not officially closed but is inoperable due to Israeli air strikes on the Gaza side.
As Israel's bombardment and siege of Gaza has intensified, the territory's 2.3 million residents have been left without power, pushing health and water services to the brink of collapse, with fuel for hospital generators running low.
"There is an urgent need to alleviate the suffering of Palestinian civilians in Gaza," Egypt's Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry told reporters, adding that talks with Israel had not been fruitful.
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been displaced within Gaza, with some taking cars and suitcases south towards the Rafah crossing but others heading back north after failing to find refuge.
Like others, Egypt has spoken out against any mass exodus of Gaza residents, reflecting deep Arab fears that the latest war could spark a new wave of permanent displacement for Palestinians from lands where they have sought to build a state.
Early on Monday, two Egyptian security sources had told Reuters a temporary ceasefire in southern Gaza to last several hours had been agreed to facilitate aid and evacuations at Rafah.
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