NPM vs Traefik?

Traefik. Once you set it up (which granted can take a few hours if you're new) its as easy as adding 4 lines of code to your compose file to add a new service. I started with NPM but I don't regret switching to Traefik at all.

I heard caddy is cool, too.

Plain NGINX has served me well.

If you are going to programmatically manage the reverse proxy, traefik is much better than NPM.

You can make NPM's manager only accessible internally or from a certain IP to reduce your attack surface. I use both.

Traefik just need container labels. Most of the time it’s only 4 labels for the container you want to expose. Copy to a self hosted wiki and you’re good to go.

I use a plain nginx and certbot. Was trying to use traefik, but it lacked some capabilities for serving static content and some specific functions...

I however use traefik in a docker swarm as an ingress and its quite good at that position if you dont need special capabilities like running scripts and serving partially static stuff.

I previously used NPM, it was easy to use and simple, but more robust stuff had to be done in the config area. I ended up having to edit configs more often than not in the end, so I switched to Traefik so now I just drop some extra blocks of text directly in my compose files and it just handles it.

Traefik. It has a GUI that I can use to see things, and (depending on your setup) you define the routes and stuff as part of your container definitions, minimal extra work required, makes setup and teardown a breeze. It is also nice that you can use it in all sorts of places, I have used it as Kubernetes ingress and as the thing that routed traffic to a Nomad cluster.

I went from Apache to Nginx (manually configured, including ACME) to Traefik over the course of the past ~10 years. I tried Caddy when I was making the switch to Traefik and found it very annoying to use, too much magic in the wrong places. I have never actually used NPM, as it doesn't seem useful for what I want...

Anyway, with traefik you can write your services in docker compose like this, and traefik will just pick them up and do the right thing:

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version: "3"
services:
  foo-example-com:
    image: nginx:1.24-alpine
    volumes: ['./html:/usr/share/nginx/html:ro']
    labels:
      'traefik.http.routers.foo-example-com.rule': Host(`foo.example.com`)
    restart: unless-stopped
    networks:
      - traefik
networks:
  traefik:
    name: traefik-expose-network
    external: true

  

It will just work most of the time, though sometimes you'll have to specify 'traefik.http.services.foo-example-com.loadbalancer.server.port': whatever or other labels according to the traefik docs if you want specific behaviors or middleware or whatever.

And your deployment of traefik would look something like this:

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version: '3'
services:
  traefik:
    image: traefik:v2
    command: >-
      --accesslog=true
      --api=true
      --api.dashboard=true
      --api.debug=true
      --certificatesresolvers.le.acme.dnschallenge.provider=provider
      --certificatesresolvers.le.acme.storage=acme.json
      [ ... other ACME stuff ... ]
      --entrypoints.http.address=:80
      --entrypoints.http.http.redirections.entrypoint.to=https
      --entrypoints.http.http.redirections.entrypoint.scheme=https
      --entrypoints.https.address=:443
      --entrypoints.https.http.tls.certresolver=le
      --entrypoints.https.http.tls.domains[0].main=example.com
      --entrypoints.https.http.tls.domains[0].sans=*.example.com
      --entrypoints.https.http.tls=true
      --global.checknewversion=false
      --global.sendanonymoususage=false
      --hub=false
      --log.level=DEBUG
      --pilot.dashboard=false
      --providers.docker=true
    environment:
      [ ... stuff for your ACME provider ... ]
    ports:
      # this assumes you just want to do simple port forwarding or something
      - 80:80
      - 443:443
      # - 8080:8080 uncomment if you want to hit port 8080 of this machine for the traefik gui
    working_dir: /data
    volumes:
      - ./persist:/data
      - /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock
    networks:
      - traefik
    restart: unless-stopped
networks:
  traefik:
    name: traefik-expose-network
    external: true

  

Note that you'd have to create the traefik-expose-network manually for this to work, as that is how traefik will talk to your different services. You can get even fancier and set it up to expose your sites by default and auto-detect what to call them based on container name and stuff, but that is beyond the scope of a comment like this.

Technically my setup is a little more complex to allow for services on many different machines (so I don't use the built-in docker provider), and to route everything from the internet using frp using proxy protocol so I don't expose my home IP... I think this illustrates the point well regardless.

Okay I use plain Nginx at home and at work mostly. Caddy (or its underlying Go runtime) has some performance regressions with HTTP/2 back then. Not sure if it has been fixed or not. Traefik is more container (docker/kubernete) affinitive imo, though I know it can be configured to function just like Nginx and Caddy.

P.S. I stopped for a second thinking what NPM you are referring to.... (Isn't that Node Package Manager lol)

Traefik has a GUI you can installed. I use Cloudflare ZT

Vote for NPM

I vote for Caddy anyway

@dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world I'm using SWAG on my VPS and I'm seriously thinking of using it for my home server as well (using NPM for now)