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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says Russia Acted In 'Good Faith' In Ukraine Invasion

news.yahoo.com Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says Russia Acted In 'Good Faith' In Ukraine Invasion

"I think we’re the ones who have not been acting in good faith," the 2024 Democratic presidential candidate said.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Wednesday he believes Russia acted in “good faith” amid the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine, adding the U.S., in fact, bore heavy responsibility for the ongoing war.

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Dude's an antivaxxer and now clearly a Russian pawn. I don't want to vote for Biden again but its beginning look like I don't have a choice... again. Love this two party system. /s
- You could vote third party, but at that point you might as well not show up at all.
  
  worse than that, you might as well vote for the other party at that point. yay two party system.
  
  This is why I hate the 2-party system. If you’re not voting for one of those 2, it really doesn’t matter.
  
  Seriously, which part of this is sarcasm?
- As much as I’d love another choice, Biden has at least done good this presidency and navigated the Russian crisis masterfully. Do I want someone younger, yes (dear god yes). Has he surprised me with how stable his presidency has been and the recovery of our standing in the international community? Yes.
  I’m going to vote for him again because we don’t have a choice. A vote for a 3rd party will be as destructive as it was in 2016. I bought into the narrative from Russia that Hillary was awful and that I should vote for anyone else. Look what they brought us? I, like many I know, voted for Bernie to send a message to the DNC. I threw away my vote for Hilary and then Trump won.
  Someone you just need a stable, sane candidate. We will get an exciting candidate again in the future. Let’s just keep steering the ship in the right direction for now.
- Asshat is opening antivax institutes ffs
- Exactly. Imagine what this guy will do with a little power.
  
  Reduce war and not try to force mass vaccinations? (Scary)

As if it wasn’t obvious from the beginning he’s basically Russia’s pawn…

adding the U.S., in fact, bore heavy responsibility for the ongoing war.
What's his rationale for this BS? How did the US make Russia do anything? How stupid would anyone have to be to be convinced by this sort of nonsense?
- $$$
- I'm sorry, but the greatest stupidity I've seen from the Left during the course of this war is the complete abandonment of the belief in US accountability for foreign conflict and destabilization, which was so common in discussion before the war. Was it just more convenient for us then?
  Putin is a vile human being and Russia is an insecure, inept power. The invasion was a crime, and a horrific one. That does NOT absolve the US from responsibility for the regional instability that led to this war. In fact, we spearheaded and encouraged it. It is clear by our foreign policy that our leaders wanted this war.
  And now we are letting Russian sympathizers use it as a talking point and we have no rebuttal because we refuse to accept it as truth. It's a massive own goal and reveals so much of liberal discourse in this nation to be ignorant, self serving drivel that can be abandoned as quickly as conservatives can abandon their "values." It is disgusting.
  No idea what channel this is, but I searched for a summary of the last 30 years of our diplomacy and NATO expansion and found it. I agree with everything said and it is all historical fact.
  
  Could we be refusing to accept it as truth because it isn't true? In what way has the US destabilised Ukraine? How did the US make Russia invade Ukraine? I can't find a way to make either of these statements make any sense at all. I'm British FYI and we have our own bone to pick with the Russians.
  It feels strange, this argument that we (the western world) made Russia invade another country and rape children. If only Russia didn't have to invade another country and rape their women and children! If only! But we made Russia do it by talking to that country about joining a defensive pact against another country invading them and raping their women and children. I mean, Russia had to immediately invade and start raping, right? Because Ukraine were going to join some other countries who would come to their aid if Russia were to invade and start raping. Where would Russia be if they couldn't just invade countries and start raping women and children, right?
  What the absolute fuck is wrong with people like you? What Russia has done is indefensible, so fucking stop it?

Don't let this betrayal be forgotten when you vote in the primaries next year. Or his anti-vax conspiracy promotion.

Cripes this guy is next dumpster fire.

As he finished saying this and exited the room did some shady guy hand him a burlap sack filled with money?

wow, what a bastard he is

This witless cunt is a literal traitor to our country, and so is anybody who lends him even a modicum of support. The FBI really needs to start doing their fucking job and pry into him and the weasels funding his traitorous ass.

Russian stooge stooges for Russia. What a thrilling development.
- It's important to keep brining his terrible record up, as it seems likely he's trying to position himself as a "moderate" challenger to Biden in the Democratic Primaries.
  I can't say I want another 4 years of Biden, but I would take that over this clown any day.
  
  No one really wants Biden. He was the least worst option in 2020, the milquetoast-iest politician the Dems could offer.
  But for some reason Republicans seem to think the rest of the country wants Worse Than Last Time. "Trump lost because he wasn't unhinged enough," they seem to be saying. I mean, Chris Christie is running as the moderate Republican option. Chris Christie!
  I don't want another 4 years of Biden either, but sigh I guess.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is also a buffoon

@sczlbutt there is literally nothing about him I like. How is he even a democrat? He doesn’t represent democratic views in the slightest.
- Anyone can sign up to the party. He's never been elected a Democrat though. And probably never will be.

I've read a couple of things about this guy since joining lemmy, and none of it is quite news worthy. Beside his pedigree he's just an idiot with a lot of misguided ideas who shouldn't be given a platform.

This guy has to be funded by the GOP and hoping everyone looks at his name and not anything he says.

What the cinnamon toast fuck.

He wants people to distrust the mainstream media and listen to his own words. That almost sounds reasonable, but I wonder how clearly he’ll be able to enunciate with Putin’s dick in his mouth.

The guy's a fucking nutter, and the fact that he's polling at 14% is absolutely appalling.

What is it with the Kennedys? Look back over the generations and they're either corrupt, philanderers or nut jobs. Or any combination thereof.

Dude's a crazy antivaxxer, but this title skips over the meat of his statements, which are actually pretty reasonable:
“I abhor Russia’s brutal and bloody invasion of that nation,” Kennedy said during a speech in New Hampshire on Tuesday. “But we must understand that our government has also contributed to its circumstances through repeated deliberate provocations of Russia going back to the 1990s.”
the host pointed out Putin has so far rejected those calls unless Russia keeps the territory it’s already claimed.
“No, no. Putin has repeatedly said yes,” Kennedy said. “In fact, he negotiated — two times he agreed to agreements. He agreed to the Minsk Accord, and then he agreed in 2022 to an agreement that would’ve left Ukraine completely intact.”
“It was us who forced Zelensky to sabotage that agreement. It was already signed,” he continued. “So, you know, the Russians were acting in good faith."

Told ya that guy was a Russian stooge. Wonder if he'll change his tune when Papa Vlad is swinging from a minaret.

How in the fuck is this guy a democratic candidate?

Now I sure know what the "F." stands for.

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