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  • Valve saw the writing in the wall 10 years ago. Gaben was a big chief at Ms and knew what they would eventually do.

  • It's very obvious to me that Microsoft wants to ditch on-prem Windows Workstations and even Servers. There is no Office after 2025 for Windows Server anymore. There is no Windows Server after 2022. There is only Windows 10 or 11 in Azure HCI for Enterprise users.

    The strategy for Workstations is not yet clear to me, but all products around Windows turn into SaaS.

    Learn to use Linux. It's the only way to have your hardware under your control. Fuck Office... get rid of this piece of shit of software now.

    • Learn to use Linux. It's the only way to have your hardware under your control. Fuck Office... get rid of this piece of shit of software now.

      Users aren't really against using Linux, they don't even know what OS they are running. The problems are always:

      1. Having to install an OS. Very few people are comfortable with doing this and handling the driver issues that may arise.
      2. Running familiar software or software that has no alternative/workaround (e.g. games with anti-cheat)

      I'm mostly in the second camp. I have some Linux machines, but games keep my main machine on Windows. But the first camp will definitely keep the majority from ever being able to switch.

      • I can understand that. And in the enterprise environment most users are not able to switch from Office and Outlook. Even if Outlook is not really very great and Office is something you almost never use in a way that LibreOffice is an adequate replacement.

  • Well it looks like they found some references to subscriptions in an INI file, but that doesn't mean it will require a subscription. It would be insane to try to sell new PCs with a trial Windows 12 license that'll eventually require a subscription. I can't imagine Windows could ever switch to a subscription model without a "base" version that's a one-time purchase, even if it's just for new PCs.

    • The references to subscription were related to IoT Enterprise Subscription, which has nothing to do with the consumer facing OS that we all use. There's also no mention whatsoever of Windows 12 in this leak, or anything else coming from Microsoft, except for NeoWin's clickbait articles where they slap the 12 and make false claims without any basis, such as the one pcmag based this article on.

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