Sure. Why not. Anything goes.
Sure. Why not. Anything goes.
Sure. Why not. Anything goes.
They wouldn't be able to afford it, would they?
Good point. Qatar is beyond wealthy but North Korea repeatedly has to threaten to nuke people in order to get aid packages.
They have quite a lot of money, particularly in foreign currency slush funds (see Room 39 for example). However the Kim family has the final say in what is government money and what never makes it onto the books.
They could probably afford a FIFA championship. It's admitting they have that kind of money, that would be a huge problem.
North Korea just prints their own money!
North Korea's GDP is on the order of 20 billion per year. Tiny for a country that size, but considering they don't have to spend any of it on their population, that gives them a lot of bribe money.
uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire
Uncritical support to the ideology of Juche and its implementation
Ad hominem
Lemme ask you this, does the US doing something bad nullify the wrongdoings of another country/regime?
When they're in the process or about to cause a humanitarian disaster in said country, yes.
Saddam's regime was terrible, however sanctions, plus destroying vital infrastructure such as water treatment facilities and power plants during war were infinitely worse. The sanctions on the DPRK that have been going on since 1950 compounded the nightmare of destroying all the infrastructure in the country and the killing of 20% of the population and are still ongoing.
Any supposed wrongdoing of the DPRK pales in comparison to what the USA did to the Korean people. Nine million Korean corpses lay at the feet of American imperialism, a number that continues to grow due to continued sanctions, spying, military exercises and aggression. The alleged wrongdoings of the DPRK's entire history do not even amount to the misery inflected by a single hour of American empire.
I'm not a coward who feels the need to avoid taking stances. I'm not a coward who finds moral equivalence in imperialism and defense against imperialism. The fact that the DPRK exists at all in such a context of overt hostility should be regarded as a supreme achievement. The DPRK manages to still stand, despite its hardships and this is a testament to the resilience of the Korean people and the power of socialism.
How can you have lived through the War on Terror and trust anything the U.S. says about its designated enemies?
And yet mfers still go in mass to these games in countries with extreme human rights issues and throw billions of dollars at merch.
Korea has lots of big stadiums and the people there seems to like football so why couldn't they host a world cup?
I don’t think the DPRK wants to give an opportunity to basically any country in the world to plant spies. Considering the US used visits of the Atomic Energy Commission to infiltrate the DPRK in the 90s, welcoming thousands and thousands of difficult to vet corporate reps sounds like an open invitation for infiltration.
Yeah I don't think they shouldn't be allowed, but I also believe it would be a bad idea.
so why couldn't they host a world cup?
Well according to a .world poster in this thread that you and I can't see from our instance, the DPRK has slaves. But don't worry, this won't happen because a lemmy.ca user thinks that "Letting that many foreigners into North Korea would be a PR disaster for the Country."
I'd love to say it would be a PR disaster for American news, but realistically people have become too invested in the American Cinematic Universe to be swayed by what visitors have to say.
The lib I work with believes all the nonsense about North Korea and I've tried explaining to him that North Korea literally has non-North Korean tour guides who absolutely allow you to go where you want but usually prefer if you don't because no one would be able to communicate with you if you got lost, and your vacation would be wasted if you had no idea where to go, but he believes that it's all just a show, as though any country on the planet actually puts in that kind of effort to convince foreigners. Every time I tell him there are literally people who've posted positive news in regards to being there, or about a non-North Korean who works there, he still wants to believe what the news says or whatever negative claims are being made about it, and so he challenged me to go to North Korea on vacation and 'find out the truth for both of us' (he already believes I'll come back with horror stories), and so I challenged him and asked "If I go there and find out that it's all nonsense, that the country is fine and peaceful, would you believe me?". I personally hate traveling, and going on vacation anywhere is a chore I loathe, and so surely if I go to such effort then he'll believe me, right? His response was a reluctant "I'll be more likely to believe it"
This guy doesn't want to believe he's been lied to about North Korea; literally no amount of evidence will sway him; it's almost like this is some kind of investment for him (I say him, but this applies to libs in general).
uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire
Many people are saying it!
Uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire.
Uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Football from the genocidal FIFA empire.
Wtf based FIFA.
Are you really suggesting the DPRK is worse than Qatar? Lmao.
Only the US will kill 20 percent of a population, establish a right wing military dictatorship in the south, and paint the democratic and progressive north as an evil regime worse than an absolute monarchy.
I'm Canadian.
That's a good point. Let me amend her post:
Only the US and America Jr. will kill 20 percent of a population, establish a right wing military dictatorship in the south, and paint the democratic and progressive north as an evil regime worse than an absolute monarchy.
Oh, the country where after ww2 a waffen ss tattoo would get you in.
It's probably not logistically viable, but as a matter of principle, there is absolutely no reason why DPRK couldn't host to world cup. It's gone to plenty of worse countries.
It has only gone to worse countries.
if you think a WC in NK would be worse than in Saudi Arabia you’re up to your eyeballs in amerikkkan propaganda
Death to America
I don't know why you are talking about Saudi Arabia. Qatar is not Saudi Arabia.
Seems like a clear improvement to me
Okay guys, enlighten me. If Nestle is a 10 on the evil scale, what is Fifa?
1/10 cos they would bribe the scale
Nah, get with the times. FIFA only accepts bribes.
About the same? Just like any other big company really, they all share the same interests.
About a 9 to 10 I would guess
Assuming lower is more evil, FIFA is 2 - 6i + 3j. Sorry, I guess we’re using quaternions.
Letting that many foreigners into North Korea would be a PR disaster for the Country.
They have a pretty big tourist industry but it would mostly be people from China
America is hosting the world cup next so.....yeah literally at this point anything goes. The only way it could be worse is if the literal Nazi regime was back and they were hosting the world cup.
Don't give Canada any ideas
Or it's fatherland US of A where Nazis are national heroes
Oh... wait they already did
Much worse, not worst
Oh my gosh, I didn't even notice that
On a side note, what exactly are we censoring on that bottom photos.
Are we just censoring a bomb detonator box or are we censoring something else....
It's not even a detonator box. It's a bike pump because he's inflating the massive paint bubble.
So it's a pointless black box.
Are you kidding me!? It's a sexy, half-naked, pink (pink is the color of genitalia and is also slang for vagina!!!) starfish (starfish aka the butthole shape!!!) repeatedly slamming his big, thick rod into a tight little hole! That's basically pornography!
And what would be the problem with NK hosting the world cup huh? Not that it would happen since the WC is nothing more than an ad for countries, you get to host it if you pay the FIFA.
Nuke dropped if a western country wins
Since Qatar has already hosted a world cup, he's got a point
an entirely reasonable position they're the organisation to set up football matches not the world police
North Korea isn't exactly a normal country. Considering how the vast majority of the world knows what North Korea is actually like, this will not be a popular event. FIFA is supposed to pick locations that will help the game spread and grow on global stage. The most shut in country in the world isn't exactly a good pick. Not to mention the international criticism of FIFA as well as the boycotts from countries and fearful athletes,
How does everyone in the world know what it's like if it's shut in? Why is it shut in?
NK has the largest football stadium in the world so...
I wouldn’t so much as think of attending even if it was right in the next town, so okay. Do it. I’ll enjoy reading about what a disaster it was.
Today, I feel like North Korean...
worse
Worse, not worst.
Don't they have a shortage of bananas?
Ok, hear me out...we use a North Korean fifa world cup as a coverup to rescue the citizens from the country.
Nah, most people hate fascists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_North_Korea
During the campaign, conventional weapons such as explosives, incendiary bombs, and napalm destroyed nearly all of the country's cities and towns, including an estimated 85% of its buildings.
A total of 635,000 tons of bombs, including 32,557 tons of napalm, were dropped on Korea. By comparison, the U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater and 500,000 tons in the Pacific theater during all of World War II (including 160,000 on Japan). North Korea ranks alongside Cambodia (500,000 tons), Laos (2 million tons), and South Vietnam (4 million tons) as among the most heavily-bombed countries in history.
In an interview with U.S. Air Force historians in 1988, USAF General Curtis LeMay, who was also head of the U.S. Strategic Air Command, commented on efforts to win the war as a whole, including the strategic bombing campaign, saying “Right at the start of the war, unofficially, I slipped a message in "under the carpet" in the Pentagon that we ought to turn SAC lose with some incendiaries on some North Korean towns. The answer came back, under the carpet again, that there would be too many civilian casualties; we couldn't do anything like that. We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea anyway, some way or another, and some in South Korea, too......Over a period of three years or so we killed off, what, 20 percent of the population of Korea, as direct casualties of war or from starvation and exposure? Over a period of three years, this seemed to be acceptable to everybody, but to kill a few people at the start right away, no, we can't seem to stomach that.”
Sahr-Conway Lanz, who holds a Ph.D. in the history of American foreign relations, has written extensively about the legacy and impact on American discourse on the international norm of noncombatant immunity. He states:
"During the war, American military and civilian officials stretched the term "military target" to include virtually all human-made structures, capitalizing on the vague distinction between the military and civilian segments of an enemy society. They came to apply the logic of total war to the destruction of the civil infrastructure in North Korea. Because almost any building could serve a military purpose, even if a minor one, nearly the entire physical infrastructure behind enemy lines was deemed a military target and open to attack. This expansive definition, along with the optimism about sparing civilians that is reinforced, worked to obscure in American awareness the suffering of Korean civilians in which U.S. firebombing was contributing."
The song was inspired by Korean war veteran that John McCrea met in a bar.
Fascism is when media tells me the country is evil bad country. What? Fascism has a definition and the DPRK doesn't come even close to fitting it? Bah, impossible. Trustworthy Sources (social media echo chambers) told me that Kim is an evil bad dictator man.
I hate people who don't know what they're talking about
Idk, people were leaping to the defense of that Waffen-SS guy in Canada
The Canadian government has proved you solidly wrong
Please fucking go back. Who the fuck wants to read these dumbass communist manifestos every time anything gets posted? Do you dorks just search for hot topics to flood?
The longest comment I can find is like 5 paragraphs and quoting an article, is that a manifesto to you?
Also "go back"? <3 Commies <3 have been here longer than you.
LMFAO, yeah, I'm edgy, not the 14 year old brigade chanting death to America. You're all literally pathetic.