can we talk about kde and tiling? i love it...
can we talk about kde and tiling? i love it...
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No.
Well, OK, yes we can talk about it, but you're buying the beer.
And yes, tiling windows in KDE it is pretty good. But I would prefer the option of having a toggle on window decorations (unless there is one, but I missed it). I prefer my tiling windows to be undecorated, and my floating windows to be decorated.
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You can set it application specific in the window decorations settings. Not sure about a global toggle though.
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My window decorations are off globally in KDE. I don't remember how I did it. It might be a theme I had to download?
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I've toyed with tiling on GNOME as well. It's a fantastic feature when you can easily toggle it off and on.
I don't often use tiling on my laptop, it doesn't usually do what I want at the time, but it's really helpful when I'm plugged into a couple of 32in 4k displays.
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I tried replying from mastodon to no avail... I think that's interesting since I find tiling crucial when I don't have an extra monitor
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I find it leaves me with too many odd sized windows that aren't terribly useful. I think it's one of those things that bother some people and not others 🤷♂️
For example, the terminal along the bottom in OP's screenshot wouldn't help me all that much, it's too small for me to do much with unless I'm just looking at a very small piece of a log or a very small status display. Most of what I run tends to be about the size of the window in OPs upper right so I just stack and use the GNOME overview or super+tab to switch. I find the GNOME overview model really, really helpful.
I wouldn't mind laptop tiling if I could have windows that maintained their size and (relative) position on screen but shrunk down to a miniature version when they weren't focused. Sort of a hybrid between an overview and tiling, where the window expands to it's original size and position when focused.
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Interesting, I like tiling when I don't have multi monitors
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This did come through by the way, but it took an extra 15-20 minutes before the comment would actually load in my client. I got the reply notification immediately but couldn't load the comment until a bit later.
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Curious why people seem to love tiling so much. Generally I'm fine with windows being overlapped when swapping between apps/instances is so easy with alt-tabbing and such
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Because, why not?
A good argument for tiling window managers is the fact that many people who don't use a tooling window manager still use their WM as if it were. My wife, for instance, uses Windows for work. Every program is always maximized - in Office, even the dialog windows like the file chooser are, because they all just use the main window.
I would say that, if you're going to work this way anyway, use a WM that's designed for it, not a floating WM where you've hacked tiling onto it. Back to the example of Windows, it is a PITA to find the right window; the way Windows presents multiple windows of the same program is hideous. It's painful watching my wife hunting to find the right Excel spreadsheet, or PPT. Desktops (or tags) are far superior, and if you have a lot of things open, tabs.
The exception is graphical work. Applications like Gimp, which have a lot of toolbars and frequently changing windows, are better floating (IMO).
But, basically... use the right tool for the job, and usually a tiling WM is the right tool. Desktop widgets make for cool screen shots, but who users a computer where they ever look at the desktop?
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But, basically… use the right tool for the job
Yup. I mainly use tiling for most of my windows including terminal, but when I need to be more productive like when working in Darktable it's easier to move to another workspace and have it fill the screen.
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I started trying it on my laptop, and I like it better than dragging and resizing windows with a touchpad so far
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what is that thing on the left? with all the socials ecc
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Rambox, apparently.
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What are the benefits to this instead of a TWM? Just curious since I've been seeing a few people singing it's praises, and wanted to know why I'd use it over a traditional TWM.
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You get a full desktop environment, which is preconfigured, has better connected parts, and includes GUIs for things like settings.
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Ahhhh, okay. Definitely not what I'm after but I'm glad the middle ground exists for most people who aren't insane lmao.
I will argue on the better connected parts bit though. Most apps designed for TWMs are intentionally very generic, minimal, and simple, making them blend together very nicely. Especially if you theme them, which is very easy to do in most cases.
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for me, just ease of use. I just open windows and have them there. I use the virtual desktops to handle a lot more open things and touchegg/touche to quickly swipe around. i tried to record it... but I don't htink it really shows how easy it is for me.
maybe this is more a post of a customize fit :D
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Can you share the documentation on how to enable tiling on kde?
I just cant make it works :(
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Bismuth and Khronkite no longer work in 5.27, so
is what you should use on newer versions of KDE.-
Bismuth working on my systems after 5.27 ( I know it may break eventually). Good to know about Polonium, cheers.
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I do want to try krohnkite - it seems like a better solution. I just haven't gotten to it :/
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Its kwin-bismuth... isn't ideal. But there's a built in feature added recently. It's in the settings (sorry turned lappy off or id provide a screenshot)
This post has been heavily edited... sorry for any confusion
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What are you using to do the tiling?
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Built in tiling (fairly new and not always perfect)
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...sorry correction it looks liek i still have kwin-bismuth!
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Are you tiling everytime from scratch when you reboot? Windows not ending up where they have been last time? How can you call that #tiling? I tried it and its horribly compared to any decent #twm.
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I prefer clean sessions but I could have it retain after reboot. Does it work as well as sway? No, but it's perfect for my needs and preferences (easy theming and gestures, but with tiling)
Edit - oh no I'm not setting the windows by hand. The tiling does... hope I'm following
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I mean, can you provide a video of what you do when booting? Because to my knowledge the way you tile your desktops is not even saved between sessions? This is not what tiling is supposed to be in my book, its more hassle than benefit. But after 10 years of KDE use on my home desktop, I am also quite fed up with most of it. Windows rules disappearing/being deleted/renamed for now reason is just another reason.
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