When someone replies to this and says 'stop making everything political' they mean to tell you to stop challenging the status quo
My opinion:
I think this community should ban political memes, and instead have another community for only political memes. I'm from Costa Rica and I don't care about the USA politics or stuff
I am also from the 97 fuckin percent of every human on the planet that couldn't give a shit about US politics
US politics affect the rest of humans on the planet so I'd probably say it's worth paying attention to. But I do like the idea of a separate political memes community so that the people have a choice.
Right? It’s such a US way of thinking to assume the entire world needs to hear about your issues.
If an American said this about any of the international news we see, I'm sure it would get a ton of upvotes
You don't really get that by banning a topic, but rather by fostering a culture where that sort of thing is frowned upon.
And you can foster it with rules and moderation.
But but... landlord bad? capitalism also bad??
Obviously
"Political Memes" is extremely vague. I opened the community, and this was the 3rd meme that came up. Just to show you that it doesn't take much to find an example that really blurs the line of what would be a political meme and what isn't.
As a representative of slrpnk.net, yeah, it's a fair bit political
No, that's not what they mean.
Seriously, OP is straw-manning. There's not this much politics on other sites. Lemmy has a ton of tankies so everything is about communism here
Yeah, when I'm doing the whole "no politics" thing it's because the same issues keep being rehashed and even if I'm invested in them it still gets unpleasant when a conversation becomes circular.
Hmmmmm you sould like a rightoid 🧐🤔 /s
I reject this! This sounds edgy but muddies the water and distracts as to recognize what politics is. Politics is everything regarding decision-making in groups! not more not less. Recognize when that's the case and fight!
I think our definitions of politics are fundamentally different.
I would say politics is the struggle for power.
Power is an underlying factor across all of society so politics affects everything.
I think our definitions of politics are fundamentally different.
I think that's cos you sound like you're 12 mate lmao
If you want to understand why the other definition is more useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjcmDGY2vA
Isn't there literally a community called politicalmemes because people wanted to sort these into another place?
At this point you're not even posting to be funny, you're just posting to be annoying.
some would even consider it not only annoying, but spamming as well
That's for people who want only political memes. Someone should start an "apoliticalmemes" group.
Haven’t thought of that. Thanks :)
"Everything is political" shares the same vibes:
I agree. It’s like sometimes you just want to go for a walk and there’s some guy following you around screaming EvErYtHiNg Is PhYsIcS just to remind you that there are physical laws to explain the world around you. Just shut up and let me walk in peace sometimes.
You're very fortunate that you can take the time to ignore those politics. For many people, these issues affect them to such an extent that they can't be ignored at all. As for the amount of memes challenging the status quo here... well... if you're on Lemmy, the status quo didn't work for you either.
"Political Memes" is extremely vague. To demonstrate, I opened the community, and this was the 3rd meme that came up. Imo this blurs the line or what counts as political. I'm sure you can find many others.
Bad meme and bad opinion.
No u
I disagree.
You’re wrong.
Not a little wrong, just, wrong.
Go and talk to a politic science professor and they will tell you this.
You can’t escape politics because it’s linked to power.
Power structures affect everything in our society therefore politics affects everything.
When someone doesn’t want to ‘make it political’ all they are really doing is attempting to preserve an existing power structure they are a beneficiary of.
Go to a physics professor and they'll tell you everything is physics. Go to a math professor and they'll tell you everything is math. Go to a philosophy professor and they'll tell you everything is philosophical.
Not everything is about power inherently. People can and often will make almost anything about power. But it's not inherent to the thing. But you might disagree.
However the degree to which things are political can vary greatly. Would you agree? Voting at the presidential elections is a more political act than watching birds or playing with my kids.
I think what people mean in your view's context is that they'd like to keep memes away which directly refer to a topic which is to a high degree politicized. Instead they prefer memes which are at maximum very indirectly related to politics.
I'm sure you know that but this is my one try at a good faith discussion.
Even chosen linux distro?
Damn
I work in the government and let me tell you: Yes
I mean, depending on how much you value privacy and the virtues of FOSS…maybe not directly political, but I’m sure some correlations could be made.
Every single time a gripe about privacy is brought up on Lemmy or some issue with iOS or Windows, Linux users come out of the woodwork. It is 100% political as privacy becomes more and more of a concern.
Everything is political. My poli sci teacher said it best: when you boil it down, politics in the most simplest terms is just getting things done.
Especially Linux distro! Now, give me a pulseaudio snap package for my Unity desktop.
ducks and covers head
According to Lemmy that's the most important political decision there is.
I was once up in some reddit thread during the George Floyd protests/defunding the police, and some dipshit had the lack of education to earnestly say "since when is the police a political issue?"
My dude. They share a the same root word.
literally everything is politics
how is nitrogen atom nr. 14729583929174 political?
At least pick a noble gas
Yes yes I used hyperbole.
Sue me.
yes I wrote "literally everything" but that does'nt mean that I meant "literally everything"
I can accept that
ok so now that we've established that there are things that aren't political, it makes sense to say "don't make everything political", because there are in fact things that aren't political (yet). however responding "literally everything is political, if you think otherwise, you're profiting from the system" doesn't make sense, since there are non political things
"literally everything is political"
ok then, can you remove the hyperbole and tell me the result?
(spoiler: they wont)
While I do agree that most things in life are somehow connected to politics and that it needs to be discussed, when I come somewhere, in real life or online, and I want to chill out, I really don't want to hear about it. Political communities exist, even here on Lemmy. Let's keep politics out of cooking, meme, and other not politically oriented communities please :)
Nope
I once got warned in a discord server for being political. Brought up that everything was politics and they backed off.
About a week later I got hints that they might be a bit of a nazi bar which was confirmed when I called it out.
Alright then:
breathes deep
The toilet paper is supposed to point away from you.
Alright, everyone, calm down. Let's not kink-shame this guy for setting up his toilet paper to dom him every time he poops.
You reach for that shit-rag, you miserable degenerate. You don't deserve to have it presented to you, and don't let anyone tell you different!
Actually, I stand the roll on the edge of the counter like a true Chad
Whoa whoa whoa let’s not make it all political buddy.
Calm down satan
Over the top is the correct way and I will die on this hill.
You have alerted the horde.
Are bodily functions political? Is breathing political? Lol
not only political but also a jojos reference
Euthanasia, Abortion, Air quality
Yes. All political.
You absolute sad sack.
"Not everything is political"
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"I am priveledged enough that my right to exist and thrive is never questioned or under fire, and things that I care about are protected by the status quo and the suppression of others"
I exist in several categories of people who’s right to exist have been threatened many, many times throughout history, I agree that everything is political, or rather, that politics encompasses everything.
However, not every discussion should become politically oriented, as it’s not particularly the most productive in many cases. This is most prominent on the internet, where nuance, which is ESSENTIAL for productive political discourse, is often absent. I find much political discussion. This is especially true in dialogues where it is either discussed on a broad scale, or where it is discussed in a reactionary manner. When my answers to political topics are so often “it depends”, this stuff tends to be quite straining, especially when my attempts to create dialogue are shot down.
In short “not everything is political” exists because you’re either detailing a discussion to talk about how horrible everything is, or you’re on the internet and internet politics just suck.
"I am priveledged enough that my right to exist and thrive is never questioned or under fire, and things that I care about are protected by the status quo and the suppression of others"
so someone who this doesn't apply to thinks that some random star in our neighbour galaxy is political?
I still think about this guy who was trying to get into local government, he had a campaign talking point along the lines "I will bring common sense, politics isn't a place for ideologies".
No doubt there were people who voted for him because of that.
Why did you have to go and make sign tapping political?
Thats the only thing i dont like about lemmy
Theoretically, politics is defined as anything where decisions are made to solve conflicts. However, this is 'broad politics'. A much more common interpretation of politics adds the requirement of it not only being a single, but regular occurrence or rather the main job of someone. Ergo, politicians of a country, or part of it, and their decisions .
Replying "everything is politics" to someone expressing they do not want to talk about politics is like telling someone their offspring cannot be called "kid" anymore as they are over 18 now, after a mother cried that their "kid died of cancer". It's technically correct, but you're a major annoying asshole or just plain stupid to persist on the meaning that was not intended.
As I do not believe there are that many people with a room temperature IQ, in C, or maybe autistic people for that matter, which of course are not responsible, only one explanation remains. If you, or anyone else repeating this pattern, is not an asshole, they should just shut up, or argue for politics if they really want to discuss this topic. A much better solution would be to move to politics only instances tho.
Tell me how DN is political!
When my dad left me to get cigarettes, was that politics?
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