Please stop the ride, I want off
Please stop the ride, I want off
Please stop the ride, I want off
Hate to break it to you, but you are also full of Teflon.
And Teflon is also a plastic
Sorry, it's hard to think with all this plastic in my brain.
I came to say this. I have also noticed a strong trend amongst people from each generation for health.
Teflon was introduced in 1938, when my grandfather was 11. In the 1955, when my father was born, is the last time that we have Teflon untainted blood from. At some point between 1955 and 1985 when I was born, Teflon proliferated to the point that it was being found in every blood sample around the world.
So my grandfather lived ~40-50 years without being massively contaminated with Teflon, my father probably got to adulthood, and I have never been without it. Now an anecdotal sample that follows a larger trend. My grandfather is in his 90's with pretty good health and is still going pretty strong. My father and both of his siblings are in their 60's-70's and all have failing health, and I know so few people in my own age range that are actually healthy without autoimmune disease or other systemic issue that I couldn't fill a high school auditorium with them.
Not saying that there's nothing wrong with microplastics or PFAS, but keep in mind there's survival bias at play here.
I have seen the exact opposite as, aside from obesity problems, each generation I've seen has had significantly higher life expectancy than the last.
I know multiple people now who have outlived the short life expectancy their health complications in the 80s supposedly gave them. I know a few families who have people living longer than anyone else in their blood line ever has. The heart and lung problems that killed off my grandparents have been dealt with now and my parents and my generation are already outliving them and far healthier at our ages.
This is all thanks to great medical advancement, of course, but the point is this isn't some dire threat that warrants doom and gloom, but another medical hurdle for us to be aware of and work out like we have all the others.
And they're all full of microplastics, and we also all have a decent amount of lead.
And animal 'roids AND microplastics
At least the animal 'roids are much more avoidable.
Teflon is so unreactive (by design) that it largely passes right through you.
Scientists are still learning about the effects of PFAS on humans, but studies show these chemicals can harm different systems in the body.
The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry says exposure to PFAS may lead to higher risk for kidney or testicular cancer, increased cholesterol levels, and damage to the liver and immune system.
My hospital sent an email out that for unknown reasons liver disease is on the rise for non drinkers and people without diabetes.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/pfas-forever-chemicals-health-risk-water
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/22/1106863211/the-dangers-of-forever-chemicals
The problem is that it's so inert, it becomes impossible to remove from a contaminated environment or particularly a person's blood stream.
The amount that inevitably gets caught in your blood will just stay in your body forever, settling down in a critical organ like your brain or kidneys and giving you cancer or some other horrible problem.
Please stop the ride, I want off
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Unfortunately everyone is full of Microplastics and Teflon.
So we won’t decompose or stick to things. Where’s the downside?
Not sticking to things is bad news for Spiderman.
That might be the creatures that are evolving to eat plastics.
Now I’m 2x sadder ☹️
Elder millennial here, I get all three! What's my prize?
Climate apocalypse
You get to be the last generation to own property.
How the hell does an elder millelianal get lead?
Leaded gasoline wasn't fully phased out in the US until 1996, not sure about other countries. The millennial age bracket starts somewhere around the birth year 1982.
Fun fact: it's still used in piston aircraft.
Edit: sorry, that's not very fun.
Oh it definitely happens. I'm a young millennial and I have a friend my age who deals with mental issues because he ate lead paint leftover in their old house as a child. Lead was so prevalent at one point that getting rid of it all isn't as simple as flipping a switch.
Edit: [wasn't -> isn't] There does not in fact exist a switch that we can now flip to remove lead. Thanks @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works.
Lead paint was still on the stuff we grew up in. Lead in the plumbing used in our schools, too.
While it wasn't commonplace in gas in the early 80s, it was still prevalent on a lot of long lasting products, and of course, paint.
I was in my early teens in the 90s when leaded gas was finally banned in the US. Furthermore, lead doesn't degrade, only slowly disperse. People born in the early 80s still got a hefty dose of lead. Yay us.
Eat a paint chip from any house built before 1978
Don't forget about asbestos!
Asbestos? Sheeeit, wait until we get to nanostuctures!
Nanostructures? Sheeit, wait until we get to responding to ourselves from another federated service! Wait, what were we talking about?
You may be entitled to compensation
You’ll get $9.37 and the lawyers will get $230 billion.
Bless you.
Is Uncle Asbestos coming?
That's great-grandpa.
My mother (a boomer) died of an asbestos cancer (one of the better kinds of asbestos deaths) because her mother used asbestos heat spreaders on the stove
Those were asbestos cloth and they slowly disintegrated during use (between the stove and the pans) putting asbestos fibres into the air
I mean it wasn't banned until the 70s.
He'll do asbestos he can to make it!
Great grandparent of these yutes.
Right inside of you (r lungs)
Gen X over here on all three like it was gonna be a party.
Gen Z - radiation and climate change.
Nope. Still microplastics.
Most of gen Z are in their 20s, I thought we counted as the last spiderman :(
The reality is that all 3 are full of micro plastics. And there’s some overlap in the Teflon lead generation. And non stick material is still not all that great.
Really, the only problem we’ve solved kinda is lead, unless you’re poor.
what radiation?
With how much reddit and lemmy suck up to nuclear energie, I dont doubt that our ground water will be fully poluted with nuclear waste soon
Radiation? That's were the lead poisoning comes in handy ;)
Trust me, Microplastics boy. You're full of those other things too.
Also all three of you are likely full of shit .... because your colons are full of cancerous polyps.
Now what does cancerous polyps have to do with my shit levels?
Haha. Shut up, you fuck.
I had those removed, thanks.
Me looking at what our government is doing:
Funding the big corporations that poison us, because so many are anti regulation.
Except of course the regulations against defending ourselves.
The kids are also full of lead but its alot more short term
Jokes on you, my house still has some lead pipes
Jokes on me, my house still has some lead pipes
fix’d that for you.
Fun fact, Teflon was invented by dupont. And the Wikipedia page is fairly clear on the safety of Teflon being in question. The real concern is who did Dupont pay off to make Teflon a thing?
Teflon is safe in typical use cases.
Here's a great video from Adam Ragusea: https://youtu.be/5FNNKhVoUu8?si=vXrfusnsGzvXErfn
The real issue is PFAS or PFOA, which are used to help bind Teflon, or other nonstick polymers, to other surfaces. This was all done in the early 1900s, and the likelihood of some conspiracy is low. Especially since they didn't (and literally couldn't) know the long term effects of "forever chemicals".
The real conspiratorial behavior comes AFTER the knowledge that PFAS or PFOA are harmful, and what actions, or inactions, of the companies and government are taken.
Remember there are people in our government (not all, but enough) who actively want LESS government: less regulation, less taxation, leas oversight. AND there are a vast quantity of companies that want the very same thing: unfettered freedom to do whatever the fuck they want, without consequence.
And that handful of government employees will easily be bribed or influenced by special interest lobby groups, businesses, "think tanks", etc. (funded and/or founded by the aforementioned businesses).
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Getting a NEW Teflon pan is less than ideal, and should be avoided. You can keep the one you have, and keep using it until the nonstick properties degrade, then toss it.
A great video about this from MinuteFood: https://youtu.be/R1hbV3EzOD4?si=bQZAQsRWLgX9dyJX
And the associated MinuteEarth video: https://youtu.be/H3aFzQdWQTg?si=bVIBp4tm_uLi7ScQ
Just cook with stainless steel, learn to cook by mixing butter and olive oil, treating the pan right and it'll act just like teflon
A small correction of the chemical nature, Teflon is PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene), which belongs to the class PFAS (Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances).
PFOA (Perfluorooctanoic acid) also belongs to the same class, PFAS.
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Leaded addons for fuel was invented by the same guy who invented freon as pressure gas in aerosols and airco making a hole in the ozon layer. He fucked us twice
Companies full of tax dollars, watching from a nearby skyscraper, as they poison us all.
I want to get off Mr bones wild ride.
What the fuck is Teflon?
Also known as PTFE, it is a plastic substance that has an insanely low coefficient of friction and is thus incredibly fucking useful for so many things. And much like the last weirdly good at doing everything substance (asbestos) it turns out it really should not have been put in everything, but its probably not quite as bad as asbestos.
And Teflon really isn't the issue, it's the binding PFAS or PFOA that causes health issues.
Slippery shit
Polymer bonded to frying pans to make them non-stick.
honestly though aren't we basically full of all 3
Time to turn to glass instead of plastic
There's still hope for graphene!
Too late we are all fucked...
Time to donate some blood I guess. *sigh
We're still full of lead btw. Little aircrafts (cescna style, r22 helicopters) still fly on leaded fuel over your house. Chemtrails are real, they just don't come from boeings ;)
These microplastics consist mainly out of bisphenol A, which bonds to estrogen receptors, that with waste water from "the pill" for woman making a boost in the last 30yrs. Which hardly gets filtered out of tapwater, might be the reason why so many young people struggle with their gender.
I dont mean this bad, but if your are hormonal imbalanced when hitting puberty, weird stuf happens. Just a brain fog thought.
Before you start to downvote. My daughter is trans with my blessing. But it really made me thinking about it. Mainly because she only drinks tapwater and seems like hooked to it. She is under the tap every 30min, doesn't like anything else to do drink.
The water is making the frogs gay!!
I have edited as to why this comes to mind.
Well, there is the famous correlation with the use of lead on diesel fuels and psychopathy and violent crime in the 20th century. Once adding lead in fuels have been abolished, the rate of crime went down. I am not insinuating that being lgbt is wrong but you could be on to something.
Yes exactly, lead and criminality is a proven statistics but came only late in the research, correlating takes time.
You see the rise in lgbt, it just might be that the population is more tolerant and they don't have to hide anymore (at least where I live) or there are idd external factors at play.
I dont mean to offend anyone with this, you do as you feel best about yourself.
It is an open conversation and instead of downvoting, I would really like people to tell me why this cannot a plausible link