Reddit is dead. Long live the Fediverse.
Reddit is dead. Long live the Fediverse.
Reddit is dead. Long live the Fediverse.
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16tqihd/settings_updateschanges_to_ad_personalization/
Reddit just decided it was a good idea to REMOVE the option to disable ad personalisation. Good job u/spez. We know what you're doing.
Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like "How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?"
Wouldn't affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.
It still means they're selling your info to advertisers
I think this is the removal of the opt out of selling my data to advertisers?
This really doesn't sound legal.
I hope spez has good GDPR lawyers!
Neat, so they are monetising your activities on the plattform. Isn't that great?
Corporate does corporate things.
They've always been doing it, they're just gonna stop hiding it now.
reddit has ads?
Reddit is ads.
Yea, ublock always blocks them on old Reddit. So this technically won't affect me.
Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?
Because other people are there
They should come to Lemmy to complain about Reddit, like the rest of us.
Hating Reddit is the usual Reddit routine, the one you may be rewarded for with Reddit's updoots.
I think the average person is not willing to take 5 minutes to figure out how Kbin or Lemmy works.
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I'm one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It's been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we've permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
For what it's worth, I was on Reddit for over a decade and I think I clicked on a stickied thread from any subreddit maybe twice in that whole time. I think a lot of people's eyes just automatically skip over them. Plus, stickied threads disappear under some sorting options. Posting the occasional meme about it might be more effective.
IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.
But yeah, we don't even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps' feed and, rarely, their browser's default start page. They don't choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.
and why would they? ........... they are pretty happy with what they have now.
Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who've setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.
My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn't too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.
But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it's expressing.
I literally only switched because of Boost. Also, since Boost for Reddit still works for me, I continue to use that as well
People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn't care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.
There are a lot of people that are actually too dumb to change platforms and assume apps like Reddit are the actual internet.
I'm technically from elsewhere in the fediverse, but I'm also a Reddit migrant (back in June). Thank you for setting the community up, I've missed it from Reddit days
Even the head mod of piracy subreddit was ousted from the subreddit for attempting to migrate the sub to a lemmy instance, and the redditors that remain there actually cheered! It's wild, you would expect pirates, who always at risk of having their subreddit shut down, would understand the need to migrate.
The quality of content in /r/piracy is shit nowadays when compared to !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Those remaining were probably the leechers. Just there to find content but not give back to the community.
So, good riddance?
It's also likely that most visitors don't go to the sub directly so the stickied post is easily missed
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/15wi75l/rfuturology_is_now_in_the_fediverse_at/
It's hard to know exactly how many people see them from the stats Reddit gives Mods. Reddit gives a figure within the post for views, which stands at about 160,000 for the post I mentioned. That includes the times people have been served the title in their feed & and the times people clicked on it (sadly Reddit doesn't differentiate further).
The fediverse site has been going for 6 weeks and has about 620 subscribers. My guestimate from looking at addresses in comments is that maybe 100-150 are reddit migrants. So roughly speaking 1 in 1000 r/futurology people who saw something about our fediverse site were motivated to join.
A sobering thought for people who think the fediverse is about to crush reddit.
Literally swap the word Fediverse in that pinned post for Lemmy and you'll get more engagement with it. Because you're right, even if the current reddit user has heard of lemmy and mastodon, they still most likely don't know what the fediverse is, don't understand the site linked to is a lemmy instance / reddit alternative. Subbed to !futurology@futurology.today btw, if the current activity there can be sustained I think it'll shape up to be a nice community
I don't even know what fediverse means
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE
One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?
I'll probably get hate, but the content just isn't there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I'd follow on Reddit just weren't on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it's just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn't much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
Honestly that's been a bit of a plus in the sense I'm spending much less time scrolling mindlessly on my phone. Of course I'd prefer that reduced time to be of a higher quality but the pros outweigh the cons for me
yeah that's honestly what I found as well. once I discovered you can patch RIF to use your own personal api token, I've been continuing to use reddit. it's such a subpar experience compared to what it used to be tho
New communities, you'll just have to yell into the void for a while until people start to yell back.
Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times
I always assumed that since both upvote and downvote counters are visible, it won't be the case. But boy I was wrong. The political/news posts are always a constant shitshow reminiscent of T_D.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don't know about Lemmy, or don't understand Lemmy, etc.
It’s exactly this, I only found lemmy through a sticky comment inside a post 2 days ago, and I’ve been wanting to get off Reddit for months
Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.
They have to make that leap of faith. There's nothing to lose anyway, there's no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what's holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.
What a shame. Imagine if all those users were aware about the Fediverse
these people are the same group of people that won't leave twitter. some people just live to be miserable and complain about things one hundred percent in their control.
it's insane and i can't wrap my brain around it.
It seems to be human nature that people are resistant to change, and it appears that are kombat instincts from when we were monkeys that can only be satiated these days by arguing on the internet and complaining.
You're simply have to find a way to take the soul out of the human and put into something better. unfortunately I don't know that Souls exist
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering.... Leaving
Reminds me of people who keep voting for politicians they supposedly can't stand.
There are no viable Alternatives because they won't come here, to the viable alternative. Seriously I would love to be able to go on special interest boards again but unfortunately the crowd is still on Lemmy.
Who's prostate do I have to massage with a rubber glove in order to get a simple conversation about Dragon Quest going on around here?
There aren't viable alternatives. We don't have the active niche (and not so niche) communities reddit does. And even if there was somehow a meaningful mass exodus, these little instances would break like wet toilet paper trying to hold a bowling ball.
I don't say this to be critical of lemmy. I'm happy here. Just being realistic.
Yeah we don't need to be like reddit. I'm happy if rss usage becomes stronger . So those niche communities can stay wherever they can thrive but still be reachable through rss.
Just migrated from Reddit to Lemmy. This was my final straw.
I missed it this time. I left in June.
Care to summarize what happened?
Same. I was super frustrated with the killing off of Apollo. This is more than frustrating, it should be illegal. Oh wait, it is is some countries just not the US…
Never mind. I seen it further down.
Welcome to the club
When Boost for Lemmy went live, I didn't even hesitate to uninstall Reddit.
I stopped using Reddit the day boost went offline.
Same here
Boost for reddit still works fine
Thankfully Boost came out the same week Relay went to monthly subscription only. I actually forgot I had set Boost to install automatically when the app was released.
I spent the few days before Boost was released giving the official Reddit app another shot, and remembering why I hate it so much.
Boost making it easy to sign up and get started was the final step on my path away from Reddit.
Same thing. I specifically waited for Boost for Lemmy to release in order to create an account. It feels familiar enough, so no problem.
Fuck reddit! I'm never going to contribute to that website.
What is Boost? Searching for it pulls up a bunch of different things.
What happened this time?
Have they implemented it yet? This is literary against EU law
Yes, it was 2 days ago. What happened? I don't care enough about reddit to open it and find out myself.
Americans confused at what month "27" is
I’m American and confused by what the 2023 day is. YYYYMMDD ftw
ISO8601 all day, every day
Quinvigintember of course.
I just realized that September 7,Oktober 8, November 9 and December 10 is a thing. I feel a bit dumb now. Then I got mad cus it's screwed up. Was it some Romans squeezing in extra months or something?
It’s the second marchcember of the year!
This is a reddit or even Twitter level shit comment. Please take your ignorant self back to either of those platforms. The dumb American trope is overused, largely inaccurate, and tired. Steal some new material from someone more witty and try again.
I don't understand it they go through the same Bumtober as the rest of us
I assure you that the average userbase doesn't care about such things. (Lmao - Privacy? I got nothing to hide -type of people) As long as functionality doesn't break massively there won't be an exodus.
funnily enough whenever I point out that Privacy ≠ Secrecy in conversations like this I always get the surprised pikachu face and they (indirectly) immediately admit defeat
Apparently American Reddit has been plastered with ads from a billion-dollar Evangelical Christian campaign for months and Jewish, LGBT amd atheist users have been especially targeted
Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of
Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of
Reddit New Atheists (including the CEO) stop being opportunistic hypocrites challenge. Difficulty level:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the new atheist problem that Reddit has. It became such a bubble, that I thought that the entire world abandoned any pretense of anything mystical or Supernatural
The idea of them possibly being real has kept a bullet out of my head. I just wish we had proof
I was eventually banned because I kept reporting people for bigotry, and they just didn't want to do their job. So they banned the complainer instead of actually addressing the problem.
Also for some reason I kept getting directed to atheism and skepticism related subreddits, in addition to Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris, and I wasn't sure why.
I find it fascinating that their own app can be so horrible when there are so many amazing alternatives that exist(ed)
Unfortunately, reddit has been too long and entrenched in society to "remove" it from our browsers. It is very different from Twitter or another social network. Lemmy is a great project. I hope it works and establishes itself as a real alternative, but it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, the Reddit/Lemmy format is resource intensive, and that's the problem with a service like this.
It's my simple opinion. I support any fediverso project, but reddit, today I think it is irreplaceable.
That's very true!
Thanks to the whole blackout thing and the many amazing apps that came to Lemmy (like Sync that I'm using rn and loving), Lemmy is now good enough to replace Reddit for the new content (at least in my opinion)
But Reddit is not (or at least not only) an "what's happening now" social network like Twitter and there is a huge amount of old content on it that can still really useful. So I guess that, in the best scenario, we'll have Reddit and Lemmy cohexist and complement each other :)
Don't forget to donate to your chosen instances to keep them going.
Self-hosters donating to themselves
And the Lemmy devs
As I removed everything from all my Reddit accounts and deleted them, except my porn account for some nieche fetishes, I don’t care. Let it die and save the porn.
50-50 shot lemmy devolves into a fascist hellsite
With the sheer number of @Civility@hexbear.net liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to "dae both sides" justify the presence of nazis, I'd say the chances are higher than that.
Liberals get bored and leave, and if that happens we outnumber the fash
It depends on the attention span of the ‘ex’redditors
Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don't, won't be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.
in the scenario I imagine, and am seeing definite signs of, the 'federation' will fragment into 2 camps: one that tolerates fascists and one that doesnt, and the one that tolerates them will become a new reddit except this time its not directly run by the FBI/spez etc but has the same bad habits and same bad apples
It'll become walled gardens. I mean, I'm not that worried easy come easy go in my view, hexbear will continue to truck along whether the lemmiverse falls to fascists or just becomes fractured due to their influence.
Lol, I knew this post wasn't from my home Lemmy. I find that your people's customs are strange and endearing.
Fuck spez, man
Need to replace the star with a clown, but I guess it already has a clown nose lol
The best part is, the normies are probably going to stay on read it no matter what. Meeting we can have a picture of what the internet must have been like before the endless September, now that's a boomer ass reference if anyone ever heard one.
It will be like that, plus political posts.
Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.
And they never think you mean them when you ask them to stop, becuse then other team is evil, and inserting their political opinions in to everything is their personality now. It's tut only way they can get them likes.
Social media changed society and sadly, I don't think escaping to the Fediverse can out run the political borest.
Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.
Luckily that only generally seems to be Americans. So if you could all kindly tag yourselves in your profiles as such it would make it a lot easier to filter. /s
Sure, there's always some low-level background muttering about politics in other countries, but the USA has really taken the cult of personality/political party to it's absolute max.
Looking from the outside in, I pin the beginnings of this on the pledge of allegiance. Indoctrinated a whole bunch of young boomers into the idea that the USA was at the pinnacle of society, and once you blindly believe that, your eyes are closed to the actual issues. Rinse and repeat for a few generations and here we are, watching a country tear itself apart via a political system stained with polarisation, bias and narcissism.
I think we will see the damage reversed, part of that is going to involve finding these places that have become the centralized forces of the internet go under. Something Twitter and Reddit are doing as they drive things off the platform
If you’re the one “remembering when”, you might be the boomer ass.
No shame being old. As long as we're the "good" old
You're exaggerating a little bit. Reddit is more alive than alive.
I might be biased but I find that reddit has become insufferably right wing in it's userbase, especially since the last fiasco.
I just lookevery once in a while and it is full of the most reactionary, nationalist shite
What are you talking about? Most of reddit is left wing.
Lmao
It's especially visible in European Subreddit, mostly in news about Muslim or Immigrants.
Of course an out-loud 40k stan, username and all, both missed the point of the franchise's original satire intentions and sees FUCKING REDDIT of all corporate bootlicking places as "left wing."
@ZWho63 Can I comment lemmy posts from mastodon?
My findings so far:
Can I edit it? (Yes I can)
Pictures attached on mastodon don't show up on lemmy.
Some replies don't show up on lemmy.ml, but visible on fosstodon.org and https://pawb.social.
Link to pawb.social is not linkified without https:// prefix.
An example of two attached screenshots that are visible only on fosstodon: https://fosstodon.org/@abcdw/111152102681928222
I'm assuming this comment is from Mastodon? If so, yes. You show up as "Andrew Tropin@null." I'm replying from Lemmy, home instance pawb.social.
Huh, the user tag of the last Mastadon user I saw on Lemmy was also @null, although their tag seems to be showing up correctly for me now
@ZWho63 It seems pictures from mastodon don't get it to lemmy.
@ZWho63 It is a reply with screenshot of the reply, which is not visible in lemmy.
So on Mastadon do you see Lemmy posts as the Mastadon equivalent of a Tweet?
I never see posts and comments from Mastadon users on Lemmy even though I believe it's more popular so you would expect there to be more or at least a similar number as from Lemmy users. I think your comment is only the second I've seen from Mastadon users.
Like the other reply says, the user tag of the last Mastadon user I saw was [name]@null, though yours is fine for me now. Also odd that your attached images don't show even though Lemmy has that feature too. Maybe these issues will be ironed out soon
@Rambi Yes, you can see how it looks here:
https://fosstodon.org/@abcdw/111152102681928222
It seems attaching pictures doesn't work both ways (I don't see attached pictures from lemmy user in mastodon too).
any script to remove posts and favourites?
https://github.com/x89/Shreddit
Mind the caveats.
thanks /u/Luccus@feddit.de !
EDIT: in progress :)
just be sure to adapt the script
shreddit/shredder.py
https://github.com/x89/Shreddit/issues/165#issuecomment-993879798
I just deleted my account because I was inspired by this post this morning. I hadn't logged in since the last drama here, so fuck them. I'm getting by just fine with Lemmy.
What happend to reddit? I only know that most 3rd party apps shut down because of the API costs
I really hope that reddit will shut down
Not until people stop using it.
Pretty much this. As much as l love the fediverse, there's still way too many people on reddit giving it way too much activity, especially in gaming: two of the biggest communities I've frequented over the course of this year are still only active on reddit.
Other platforms, like lemmy or discord, either have little to none activity on certain topics like the former, or are poorly designed and lackkng to allow its users to search for stuff properly like the latter.
These days I'm much more diverse with my Internet activity, which is good, but man I wish more people just dumped reddit, especially from the communities I needed to drop it the most.
no, it won't, nor will xitter of facebook. it's delusional to think multi-billion-dollar-platforms backed by big money, the content industry and several clandestine consortiums will cease operation because a single digit percentage of users decided that some hobbyist internet platforms held together by tape and a hail marry are the future. we'll be lucky if places like this are still around in a few years.
then it wont contain the toxic users
Still have my account, even though I haven't logged in for months.
Old.reddit.com, ublock, VPN. Good luck, spez.
Until they kill old.reddit
I think there was some reasoning that this would be a long way off due to technical reasons, but still, until then.
as if
What's worse, the face on that star or the backwards date format?
I'd say face. I'm fine with lemmy not being so US centric.
But I'd appreciate it if we just all moved to yyyymmdd
That's a bingo. Year month day is the only way.