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  • Never happened to me. Like ever. And I've been on Linux (with occasional dual-booting whenever I'm in a position where I need windows--) for like 15 years now?

    To be honest a lot of stuff people talk about seems to not happen to me and I think I might be exceedingly lucky or smth.

    • To be honest a lot of stuff people talk about seems to not happen to me and I think I might be exceedingly lucky or smth.

      Considering the people who seem to have issues are the ones who go out of their way to be all "Linux good/Microsoft bad" I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume most of it is total bullshit.

      I've built half a dozen PC's running windows 10 from scratch and not a single one of them has gotten messed up during the incredibly straightforward install/update process. It's so dumb simple compared to virtually anything else I just don't get how you could even have problems.

      Listening to Windows problems on here from Linux users (I use both btw just to avoid the inevitable pedantry) is like watching a toddler throw a fit because he found out you have to peel a banana before you eat it, but their favorite fruit is an orange.

      • is like watching a toddler throw a fit because he found out you have to peel a banana before you eat it, but their favorite fruit is an orange.

        Got to admit, that's one hell of a response. Can be used in many situations.

      • See your argument might hold water if "stuff people talk about" were something applicable only to Windows/Linux fights. (Windows can lick my fuzzy horse ass, btw---)

        But like. People love to meme on how SystemD makes your computer hang up for a long while when shutting down? Never saw it happen. People meme on PulseAudio breaking? Never happened to me. Shit like that.

      • Considering the people who seem to have issues are the ones who go out of their way to be all “Linux good/Microsoft bad” I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume most of it is total bullshit.

        Considering a simple google search of these terms brings up multiple people whose position on Linux and Microsoft is completely unknown to anyone else but themselves, having the exact problem OP is posting about, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you've attached your identity to Microsoft and have to defend them for some reason.

        I've been using Computers for nearly 30 years, and Windows has come a LONG way in that time. But lets not pretend windows doesn't shit the bed sometimes. Hell a simple google search will reveal articles like this one and a large number of results of peoples PC's having issues after windows update. Youtubers have made videos on windows update issues.

        I had one of my PC's straight up boot loop after a routine windows update and had to use a recovery to fix it, only for windows to auto update and re boot loop itself immediately afterwards. Most of the time, windows updates are fine, but sometimes they fuck shit up.

    • Same. Never happened to me either. But I usually make a sperate UEFI partition for Linux instead of relying on grub.

      • It can still happen. Your UEFI settings are accessible from the system. That's part of the standard. So Windows sometimes rewrites these settings to make itself the default again.

      • That is true for me now, but for years I used dual boot on old BIOS based systems so idk /shrug

  • What? Windows kills other partitions during update?

    • Windows likes to mess with the EFI partition on updates, scrweing up bootloaders. That you can prevent by separate EFI partition on another disk, This way Windows doesn't see the other efi files to boot. But when it feesl really obnoxious, it also edits your EFI table and sets itself as the default. That doesn't actually damage your linux boot files, but you still need to log back with some bootstick and revert the change, to make your bootloader/menu the default again.

      That's the reason people often switch to Windows only as a VM (there are even solution to passthrough a dedicated graphics card just for Windows, if that's for gaming) after some time. Because Windows is actively working against other OS's on your computer.

      In a way their Secure Boot bullshit is nothing different. Get vendors to include MS keys by default, then pretend that Windows is somehow more secure because you need to deactivate Secure Boot to install soemthing else (who cares that one key on every machine is not exactly secure, even more so as MS keys were already found in the wild in malware so they don't even know how to not lose them...)

      • Secure boot is the main reason I gave up dual booting on my desktop. Just couldn't be fucked to keep turning it on and off every time. (I have an Nvidia GPU, kernel driver signing, updates, etc. tldr, fuck nvidia)

  • Best to block windows updates, they usually always break things while offering little benefit. Though I never thought dual booting on the same Disk was ever a safe idea with Windows.

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