Is lemmy.ml turn into authoritarian?
I just realised, I can't post anything on lemmy.ml
So, I checked https://lemmy.ml/modlog, there's a new moderator.
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In my country we have antifa for antifascists. Are you here some kind of anti-tankies? Because I see far, far more posts about antitankies fighting supposed tankies than I see people fighting fascists.
Tankies wpuld literally support the reincarnation of hitler if he said "america bad" they worship genocidal dictators on the sole grounds they oppose America. They hold literally no leftists values. They just like authority
Thing is, I've never seen a tankie. I've already talked to many fascists here on lemmy though.
Depends on what subs/instances you frequent. Since the reddit migration brought a lot of liberals and centrists to lemmy, many of the tankie types have been drowned out by sheer numbers and have retreated to hexbear and lemmygrad etc.
However, there's also a decent number of fasicsts and neocons who came from reddit and are all over exploding heads, shitjustworks etc
I don't really see those users much because I don't frequent their spaces. I tend to be in more leftist spaces so I see more tankies.
And of course there was that one disastrous week or so where we gave federation with hexbear a chance and they just flung tankie shit everywhere.
Again, that's anti-tankie memes I see every week. Not tankie ones. It's the anti-tankies who are very active, not the tankies.
They're active in comments, but they're also a small minority
Source?
"Believe me, bro"
Source: Hexbear, Lemmygrad and Lemm.ml
In the US, antifa vs. fascists is the actual conflict bubbling up in real life. Only online do people care about tankies. They're a test for moderation and decentralization so people can keep them from being disruptive, not a real concern for freedom of expression. Critical support for Russia's invasion (or disruption of support for Ukraine) is way more likely to come from the alt-right fascists than pseudo-left online tankies.
That's mostly because pseudo intellectual "leftist" tankies are almost exclusively found online. There's no real presence irl
Other than, you know, the millions and millions and millions of them organised in parties throughout the world.
These aren't leftists. They're trolls.
Agreed.
it's probably because most instances have defederated with 'tankie' instances like lemmygrad or hexbear, so all you really see is ragebait screenshots of tankies saying stupid things. although most of these posts seem to be coming from one user
The only posts I see about tankies are from anti-tankies.
Yes, like they say, because the tankie posts are blocked.
Is it really that difficult to understand?
The why is there so much anti-tankie propaganda? Like so much more than antifascist propaganda?
Because liberals sleep in the same bed as fascists and both are ready to fight socialism tooth and nail?
Because like all true "moderates/liberals" they love attacking the left.
Anything that threatens the western hegemony and imperialism must be destroyed because it threatens the comfortable life that the 1st world gets though neo-colonialism which is institutional racism at a international level.
Tankies want to make the first world share their treats with the "unwashed masses" of the third world and pay them a fair rate for their resources and labor.
"The electable left" (aka liberals, democratic voters, etc) are actually crypto-fascists. Fascism doesn't attack the liberals way of life. It isn't a serious threat to their treats so they don't rail against it.
Because Amerika's military budget is as ballooned as it is specifcally to keep their neocolonies (and those they wish they could neocolonize) from revolting and taking up socialist mantles. We wouldn't still be blockading and committing genocide as a result in Cuba otherwise. Liberals don't like hearing their malfeasance; so they at least try to stomp it out everywhere it can be found-- all the anti-'tankie' propaganda you find is evidence of that.
Because people aren't familiar with them and need to be made aware of what they really are. Too many people don't see the damage these trolls cause because they get blocked and only see the complaints and I'm realizing that defederation has worked in their favor. If anyone actually read the shit they post they would realize they are conservatives trying to make the left look like psychopaths. They appropriate LGBT and other social justice causes in order to attempt to infiltrate the left and rot it from within. Also, they use liberal as a slur.
Tankies and fascists are just as bad. What are you trying to suggest?
I'm not suggesting anything. I'm pointing out a bias: eventhough fascism is rampant in the west, to the point there was a coop attempt in the US a few years ago. Yet people on lemmy are very hard fighting tankies where ever they can find them, even baiting with anti-tankie memes on a very regular basis.
Tankies are not treated like fascists. There is a war waged against them on lemmy eventhough tankies don't exist in the west.
Tankies don't exist in the west because, as it was said, tankies and fascists are the same kind of extremists, but in the west we have fascists already. You don't have both tankies and fascists in the same place.
So here we are, with western people on the hunt against tankies. To me they are fascists waging a cultural war on social media.
That's because we're on .world and the main tankie instances are blocked. OP is talking about leaks into other instances. It's a bad faith argument. Fuck tankies.
Boo!
Tankies are more of a problem on Lemmy than fascists.
I guess you're half a fascist.
oh yeah? Well you're a terrorist, so there, take that!
Tankies ARE fascists! Like all communists.
Historically, who funded fascists and who fought them?
Italian fascists were communists. German fascists were communists.
I have a feeling everyone involved in those equations would disagree.
Yet, but specifying this, you focus the discussion on the flaws of the left, rather than the actual fascists who are training, arming, and preparing coops in the western world, like they did in the US not so long ago.
Yet here we are talking about how communists are also fascists...
Because when the Knight of the Long Knife 2: Electric Boogaloo hits, the people talking about communists being fascists will be marching, arm-in-arm with the actual fascists. It's really a genius con when you stop to think about it, in theory, we'd never see it coming if it wasn't already materially predicted and observed.
They ARE actual fascists, that's the thing.
So Trump is communist? Since when?
Us VS them totalitarian mentality. Doesn't matter how you call these fucks, they all are the same.
Not all fascists are communist, but they say all communists are fascist
What does this even mean LMFAO
They're using "fascist" when they mean "authoritarian" or "totalitarian".
In all fairness, there's very little difference. Communism isn't supposed to be authoritarian, but paint enough murals of someone and see what that does to their ego.
You should read some communist literature before pronouncing about it.
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