Why, as a male, when emotionally do I only feel accepted by women but not by men?

Man a lot of people are chalking this up to just the individuals being assholes, but there's absolutely a societal expectation to men being stoic, and that's hard to break for a lot of people, even with their closest friends. Men are taught to be driven, active, leaders. It's what we've been conditioned to by society for thousands of years. There's a growing shift towards men embracing what can be seen as "femininity" in aspects of life, particularly emotionally, but speaking from experience here, it's still hard to open up to my guy friends. And I have good guy friends who absolutely would listen and support me. Hell, they have.

Toxic masculinity has been brought up here, and kinda shot down, but if you dig deep, that's what a lot of it is. Note that doesn't make these people BAD PEOPLE, they're as much victims of it as you are. There's no correlation between 'strength' and showing emotion. No one, man or woman, is going to look at someone going through it and say 'ah they she'd a tear! Weakling!' Hell, if anything, it takes a lot of strength to be emotionally honest. But that feeling is present as a low-level background noise everywhere. Men don't cry. Get over it you're a man. She dumped you? She wasn't that good anyway bro. Nah man, that shit HURTS. This is what toxic masculinity is. Not toxic MEN but toxic STANDARDS, which are perpetuated by both sides.

Obviously, in any discussion about groups as diverse as men/women, it's important to recognize that these are sweeping generalizations and that individuals can vary wildly.

It's not being "sensitive" or "emotional" that most dudes have trouble with.

Most women probably don't consider it a sign of strength, either. Not the sensitivity or emotionality.

In my experience, most men are focused on something that is happening. A sport or activity, a task, whatever. Your sharing is most likely out of rapport and just isn't how they want to interact.

I have close male friendships that are very emotionally open, and others where it just doesn't feel right.

In my experience, women are different. Male/female relationships are already complicated and getting into preferences and other dynamics is pointless. It could be anything.

Assuming you're attractive/confident/wealthy/etc, there would be many women who would comfort you just to keep you in their orbit.

Assuming you aren't, there are many women who would comfort you out of a sense of maternal care and empathy.

Assuming you're usually friendly, funny, safe, etc, women broadly seem to be kinder and more interested in interacting in that emotional space.

Does any of it matter? Probably not. Before insulting all men you know, it might be better to consider that you might just not like to have typical male friends. Just because people don't like doing what you do, it doesn't make them dumb.

In my experience, this isn't a gendered distinction - but rather just down to the individual person.

Some of my closest friends that are both men and women alike are friends I consider "letting my guard down" around. The same applies in the opposite direction, where I have friends (but generally more on the distant friend / acquaintance side) men and women alike that I have to be a bit more guarded around.

And while I can't comment on this specifically because I of course don't know you and as such have no frame of reference, from what I've experienced in the past and seen others go through, is that a lot of times it's how you bring it up. If it seems more forceful, it's going to have a higher chance to not land well with people (of any gender).

Sounds like you hang out with childish "men" (boys) and emotionally intelligent women.

There have been plenty of times in my life where showing emotions to women was the wrong move. On the other hand, the friend of mine that I consider the most emotionally mature is a man.

A lot of my male relationships, we bond while we do things. My female relationships we can just hang out. Don't know why that is.

Find the right men. There are 4 billion men out there and many are able to communicate and be there for friends. It may take moving into some peripheral spaces where different experiences and points of view are appreciated.

Yes

I agree that socialization is a big part of this tendency, as other commenters are saying. However, having experienced living with a testosterone dominant body and an estrogen dominant body, I've found that it was much harder for me to process other people's emotions on T. While I would care about people and what they were expressing, I often would feel overloaded by strong emotions. On E I don't notice that as much, and have a lot more patience and capacity to emotionally engage with others.

I'm sure this stuff varies a lot from person to person, and there isn't one single factor that determines how men and women would typically behave. But in my own life there's a pretty big hormonal component to this

Yes, I think so. It’s been my experience that when you show a vulnerability or do something that causes people to confront a hidden little part of themselves, people who can’t deal with their repressed emotions around that thing tend to get resentful and sometimes react in really immature ways. Internally, they might think things like “You’re CRYING? But I don’t feel like I get to cry! I never get a chance to show my emotions! Why should YOU?” And then externally, what comes out of their mouth is wild shit like “pull yourself together” or “man up”. This also happens with other modes of self expression but I think in terms of emotion and masculinity it is particularly awful. Women are more likely to have experienced the harmful effects of strict gender roles, and generally want to make sure men feel supported in the face of that, because it (patriarchy) hurts us all.

Women are also often socialized to know how to react and how to help when people get upset, which can lead to some bleakly unfair family situations, but in contrast to men who might not have that skill set or that lifetime of practice with those types of social situations, they’re going to respond very differently. It is absolutely a skill to be able to cope with others’ feelings, and that skill is not taught to children evenly.

I think one take might be that the cause might be based out of a fear of being perceived as being gay. I mean you have generations of men who faced everything from hanging, to chemical castration to prison sentences for being gay. Policing expression of things like any sign of physical signs of affection or "womanly" displays of emotional connection put men in physical danger. That generational trauma of emotional amputation for preservation of life doesn't go away in a day.

Internally a lot of guys still have their guards up because that was the model of behaviour their fathers and male community members have because their Dads were like that so even if the underlying cause isn't known the behaviour seems more "normal". It's what the people you saw as grown ups did and what they trained you to emulate to be like them. Under those circumstances everything else becomes the deviation because it feels counter to what you were taught or are mirroring. Fighting that feeling of oddness requires an act of conscious will. A lot of people still look at being gay or femme is a failure state. A weakness of moral character... because it is a rejection of internalized homophobia and misogyny and rejecting the notion that these things are deviant is seen as an endorsement. Compulsory straightness was and is a pretty facist system and all facist systems require a "failure state" to demonize. You don't want to be the target of violence so you enact the violence asked of you to prove you aren't one of the failures.

These systems self perpetuate by default.

Could you give more specific examples? I don't deny your experience, it's a bit difficult to try and understand without additional context. Without it, I and other commenters are probably shooting in the dark. The explanations we give might be too general to be useful or satisfactory, or too specific wherein they miss the mark completely for you.

This largely depends on the individual people around you and the culture of your area. There are large swaths of the US where avoiding the perception of vulnerability or toxic masculinity are the norm among men. I live in a bigger city where these absolutely still exist but are much less common. Among the other men around me, emotional authenticity is the norm rather than the exception.

I know for a fact people can grow in this regard though, so my advice is to keep being your authentic self. This will have you modeling what authenticity looks like for those who don't have it, and will also help you cultivate like-minded people around you

Is it possible this is just insecurity? This post reeks of it.

What emotions are we talking about?

Grown ups try to control who they reveal particular emotions to.

Generally, individuals of any gender would only reveal their sensitive side to very very close friends.

If someone doesn't respond well to your display of emotion, you may have misread your relationship with them.

You have stupid friends?

Hit me up, if you need a male friend! Always down for a "pen" pal

I only want to deal with some of men's emotions. Sometimes I wanna hang out people for fun and not as their therapist. I find women a lot more gentle to receive that stuff too. There's a lot of psychology involved.

Men will see a potential in gaining something by being adversaries. Even if it's a worse outcome by any stretch of the imagination they mightn't be able to overcome evolved and taught practices of harm.

Many men have to be disarmed before they can get out of predator mode. And high functioning narcissists, psychopaths, ... - dark triad types will only pretend to come out.

It's the difference between your average agreeable person and a highly driven academic. You're probably going to notice shades of ego with the university educated person. The higher the school status the more likely pretensiousness comes into play during interactions. Everything starts to toxify into a contest of intellect and qualifications.

Men have similar prevailing toxicity. So, creating a road block over excessive emotional output is an attempt at a 'gotcha'. They're attempting to demarcate/mark their territory at the expense of the emotional person.