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  • Someone brought up bailing from Twitter in the previous RD thread, and I quickly remembered how I would tweet just to keep myself entertained with the long queues. Wala pa ako mobile internet a long time ago so I'd have to send my tweets to a dedicated Globe number and they will post it. Parang old school telegram, lmao.

    This was a pic from one of my older tweets. Yung mala-isaw na pila ng jeeps sa North Avenue terminal.

    Edit: To be clear, this was a pic I took during that exact tweet. It wasn't on the tweet itself since I obviously can't upload images (nor did Twitter support it yet).

    • Wala pa ako mobile internet a long time ago so I’d have to send my tweets to a dedicated Globe number and they will post it. Parang old school telegram, lmao.

      I did this for Plurk back in the late 2000's, but not that often since the amount of lag is just incredible (but defensively so). It's a really nifty service back then though, posting through SMS, even if limited to just text.

  • Since we're on the topic of moving between instances, I recommend this tool to migrate your subscribed communities from one instance account to another: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate

    For those using linux, btw, you probably don't have install Python3, as it's likely already installed in your system. If you already have git installed, it's even easier.

    Here's what I did:

    • Go to whatever subdirectory you want to install lemmy_migrate on. In my case, it's ~/Projects.
    • Go to the repository (linked above) and go to Code and copy the Git HTTPS link
    • Type git clone <url> where url is the link you copied in the previous step
    • Press enter to start cloning the repository
    • Go to the repository directory and edit the config.ini file, putting in your account details.
    • When ready, type python3 ./lemmy_migrate.py -c config.ini
    • Press enter to start the 'migration process'.
  • TL;DR: Accessing lemmy.world from a faster instance feels faster because you're probably not really accessing lemmy.world.

    There's likely two contributing factors as to why lemmy.world has been acting up lately:

    • It has the highest number of users to my knowledge.
    • It recently upgraded to 0.18.1-rc which in turn has resulted to some performance issues.

    From my experience, it seems like there's an issue with how the lemmy.world's frontend interacts with the backend. But it doesn't seem to affect users from other instance because as I've said, they're not really accessing lemmy.world.

    To elaborate, there was a post weeks ago on how beehaw defederating with lemmy.world affects the lemmy.world users. Of particular interest is an explanation on how ActivityPub works.

    The way federation works is that the community on beehaw.org is an organization of posts, and you’re subscribed to it despite your account being on lemmy.world. Now someone posts on that community (created on beehaw.org), on which server is that post hosted?

    It’s hosted on both! It’s hosted on any instance that has a subscriber. It’s also hosted on lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, etc. Every instance that has a subscriber is going to have a copy of this post. That’s why if you host your own instance, you’ll often get a ton of text data just in your own server.

    And the copies all stay in sync with each other using ActivityPub. So you’re reading the post that’s host on lemmy.world, and someone with an account on beehaw.org is reading the same post on beehaw.org, and the posts are kept in sync via ActivityPub. Whenever someone posts to that community or comments on a post, that data is shared to all the versions across the fediverse, and these versions are kept in sync. So up until 5 hours ago, they were the same post!

    So if I'm understanding it right, if you're reading and commenting on this particular post, you're really interacting with a copy of it in your instance. Your instance and lemmy.world will then synchronize the data through the ActivityPub protocol to ensure users from both instances sees the same content. This is a backend-to-backend interaction and thus may not be completely affected with lemmy.world's issues.

  • I think its time for this "sun" to set, and with it this account. The sun must set so that tomorrow's sunrise will come.

    I have always loved you from the bottom of my heart, your flaws, your struggles, everything about you. When i learned new things about you, I fell more in love with you. I loved you for being you

    But alas, It has to come to this end. Even though you deleted all your messages, the pictures you sent. Those memories still live inside me and i will cherish those moments.

    I'm leaving this meme that i saw here too, it captures perfectly just how much i loved you

    Bye~~~

    • Farewell, online traveller. Sana'y magkita-kita tayong muli, kahit na iba na ang pinanangdalakang pangalan...

  • Parang naging default instance kasi ng most of those who join Lemmy ang .world, which dapat mag spread out between instances para hindi ma-strain yung capacity ng mga bigger instances. Kaya nga may federation. It's not that hard to subscribe to a community from another instance naman. Most of the communities I'm subscribed to are not in lemm.ee but that's the beauty of federation, I can still interact with the other instances while never actually leaving my instance. Siguro kailangan din natin i-direct and mga incoming users to other instances para ma share ang load between multiple instances. Just my 2 cents.

    • I'm of the opinion that ideally, Lemmy.world can act as the assembly area for the new migrants. It gives them time to get a feel of the Threadiverse as a whole, without having to think about instances and federation and all that shit. Once they've gained more experience, or found an instance that better fits their needs, then they can go.

      However, given the amount of people pouring into Lemmy.world, I think that it might be a good idea to "randomly assign" an instance to them. That is, a number of small instances that are willing to take the load off Lemmy.world can group together to form a pool of instances that are then randomly assigned to those coming over from Reddit through a portal like a more newb-friendly version of https://join-lemmy.org/.

      • I definitely agree with this, but damn, the upkeep for having an instance of your own can be a strain on your server, though. We have a small instance of ours in order to subscribe to other instances (not just lemmy.world) and in a span of 4 weeks, the database got up to 6 gigs already... can't imagine how much it would cost to have more than 15 users. Donations would have to be a default setup if people want a particular instance to keep running and not have it become like Reddit, and I understand better now why some have to pass a particular screening first.

    • I definitely agree with this, but damn, the upkeep for having an instance of your own can be a strain on your server, though. We have a small instance of ours in order to subscribe to other instances (not just lemmy.world) and in a span of 4 weeks, the database got up to 6 gigs already… can’t imagine how much it would cost to have more than 15 users. Donations would have to be a default setup if people want a particular instance to keep running and not have it become like Reddit, and I understand better now why some have to pass a particular screening first.

      • Huh. I just realized how ActivityPub could be a double edged sword if I'm understanding it right. If you have 5 users in your instance who are all subscribed to the same community on another instance, then you'll only need to store a single copy of that community in your instance. But if all 5 each have a different subscription, then you'll be storing a copy of each community for all 5 users. The first scenario would be more efficient in terms of storage.

  • Pag ni-require talaga yon iiyak ako, kung sino man ang kumokontrol ng takbo ng mundo sana pagbigyan moko sa hiling ko na wag i-require yon, mas pipiliin ko pang magka cancer o alzheimers o kahit anong malubhang sakit o kahit hanggang 30 yrs lang ang life span ko kapalit lang ng hiling ko, mas better pa nga kasi may chance na ma outlive ko ang mga pets ko, wag mo lang ako pag kaitan sa hiling ko, gagawin ko lahat, nakasalalay buhay ko dito kung di mo man bigay ganun din naman dadatnan ko "kamatayan" pero di agaran ma dedepress muna ko bago ko siguro mapatay sarili ko, mas pipiliin ko pang magkaroon ng malubhang sakit, mabuhay hanggang 30 yrs old basta makamit ko lang hinihiling ko sa ngayon kesa di moko pagbigyan sa hiling ko na siyang magiging dahilan ng pagka depress ko at kamatayan sa dulo

    • I read it until the very end, but I'm still clueless as to what that thing you're talking about is, lol!

      And now I'm afraid to ask.

  • Ping comparison: lemm.ee vs... lemmy.world!

    • ISP: Converge ICT
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    PING lemm.ee (104.26.10.98) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=10.7 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=13.8 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=13.7 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=13.6 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=13.7 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=6 ttl=53 time=15.6 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=7 ttl=53 time=13.7 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=8 ttl=53 time=13.6 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=9 ttl=53 time=13.7 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=10 ttl=53 time=13.5 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=11 ttl=53 time=14.3 ms
    64 bytes from 104.26.10.98 (104.26.10.98): icmp_seq=12 ttl=53 time=13.6 ms
    
    --- lemm.ee ping statistics ---
    12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11018ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 10.685/13.637/15.648/1.053 ms
    PING lemmy.world (135.181.143.230) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=214 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=291 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=318 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=344 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=365 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=215 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=237 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=259 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=9 ttl=54 time=384 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=10 ttl=54 time=305 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=11 ttl=54 time=226 ms
    64 bytes from static.230.143.181.135.clients.your-server.de (135.181.143.230): icmp_seq=12 ttl=54 time=240 ms
    
    --- lemmy.world ping statistics ---
    12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11012ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 213.998/283.183/383.514/57.361 ms
    
      
    • That's because the lemm.ee admin has been consistent in providing updates, upgrading hardware and communicating the changes to the community, glad I signed up to the instance :)

      • si world din is trying to improve it, pero sobra dami users (biggest lemmy instance) so hirap sila sa overloading. kaya mas maganda ma-balance un dami ng users. post sila siguru like when new users tries to sign up sa world, it would suggest to try muna sa ibang instance

  • Minsan iniisip ko kung dapat pa ba ako magpost ng wala lang na comments. Parang every comment, pabigat sa trapik ng site.😮‍💨

    • Nah, I don't think you should mind it that much. More posts means more possibilities of engagement--which is what Lemmy as a whole needs if it were to have a self-sustaining community.

      Kung sa tingin mo naman worthy of sharing ang i-popost mo eh, go lang!

      • Pero syempre nakaka-deter pa din yung user experience sa ngayon. I hope di mainis mga new users at sana maayos na ng mga admin yung issues.

    • Naisip mo bang magtatag o magbigay ng donation drive para sa mga dev rito, upang ms gumaan-gaan na rin ang uptime ng mga instance rito?

  • I can't reply to lemm.ee users pero para kay megane kun yung reply ko kay decadentrebel is not lost naisingit ko lang yung about kay lemmy.world kasi mukhang maraming nagkakaproblema, mabilis naman mag comment sakin d2, di lang tlga ako maka reply sa mga lemm.ee users, yung sa pangalawa naman is just a personal rant I didn't reveal the details of what my exact problem since it's just to lessen the burden of my problem I'm not suicidal btw I'm just extremely anxious right now and panicking since that required document will have a huge impact in the direction of my life

    • I can’t reply to lemm.ee users pero para kay megane kun yung reply ko kay decadentrebel is not lost naisingit ko lang yung about kay lemmy.world kasi mukhang maraming nagkakaproblema, mabilis naman mag comment sakin d2, di lang tlga ako maka reply sa mga lemm.ee users,

      Ah, got it~ ‌Thanks!!

      yung sa pangalawa naman is just a personal rant I didn’t reveal the details of what my exact problem since it’s just to lessen the burden of my problem I’m not suicidal btw I’m just extremely anxious right now and panicking since that required document will have a huge impact in the direction of my life

      Ah, don't worry about it. I hope that whatever it is, it'd eventually be alright.

  • Walang imik sa simula, wala ring imik sa kadulu-duluhan, kahit na magandang balita ang dumating sa akin patungkol sa aking academic performance ngayong 2nd sem ng huling taon ng SHS kanina...

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