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  • Not really. Cereal crops are very different from any other crop. The efficiency of it is the reason it basically was the start of farming and civilization. 5x compared to other crops would not surprise me at all.

    • I think you meant to reply to me here: https://lemmy.ml/comment/4074486

      First, it's not 5x; it's five orders of magnitude, so that's 100,000x.

      But more importantly, cereal crops are actually not that productive in terms of calorie per unit area of land use. Wheat, for example, produces some 6.4 million calories per acre, which is way less than potatoes (17.8).

      Also, no plants require huge variations in their energy input per area than other plants, because they all roughly need what the sun provides. Some plants have different growing seasons, and some can tolerate lower light conditions, but we're talking about factors of like 1 or 2 here, not 100,000.

      The reason grains support civilizations is that they scale as an agricultural practice, and they give you a very convenient resulting food. They're easy to farm because they're literally grass, plus their grains can be dried, stored, and transported easily, and they happen to make a reasonably nutritious staple for a diet. Their main labor input is the initial seeding, the harvest, and then the processing (threshing, milling, etc.), all of which scale much better than say picking tomatoes, blueberries, or apples by hand out in the field; this was true back in the day, and is even more true now with modern mechanized harvesting. We still pick tomatoes by hand, but our grains are almost grown autonomously at this point.

      • oh was it only using sunlight energy? I had assumed it was using totaly energy. Like to harvest and such. That is actually though a problem that it was not for comparison as well as with the indoor farming one of the big things is low shipping and less loss from it. Yeah I don't know why it did not go with your comment as I am using the replies in the comments. Think its just one of those federation hiccup type of things. To reply to the thread I would have to be scrolled all the way up or down

  • This is the best summary I could come up with:


    CLEBURNE, Texas (AP) — Inside a bright greenhouse about an hour outside Dallas, workers in hairnets and gloves place plugs of lettuce and other greens into small plastic containers — hundreds of thousands of them — that stack up to the ceiling.

    The company operates two greenhouses and has broken ground on two more at its Cleburne campus, where the indoor facilities are meant to shelter their portion of the food supply from climate change while using less water and land.

    The industry churn doesn’t bother Jacob Portillo, a grower with Eden Green who directs a plant health team and monitors irrigation, nutrients and other factors related to crop needs.

    He pointed to the organic farmstand-oriented Elmwood Stock Farm outside Lexington, Kentucky, which can grow tomatoes and greens the whole year using tools like high tunnels, also known as hoop houses — greenhouse-like arches that shelter crops while still being partially open to the outdoors.

    Indoor farming companies counter this by emphasizing high hygiene; for example, Eden Green touts “laboratory conditions” on its website and says workers closely monitor their greenhouses to immediately catch any pests.

    Evan Lucas, an associate professor of construction management at Northern Michigan University who teaches students about proper infrastructure design for indoor farms, said he’s not concerned about the shakeout underway.


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