Germany bans neo-Nazi group with links to US, conducts raids in 10 German states
Germany bans neo-Nazi group with links to US, conducts raids in 10 German states
When the people who invented Nazis are pissed about your Nazis, you’ve got a problem with Nazis.
Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.
They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are "for the people" and "the will of the people", yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.
The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called "social conservatives" while simultaneously calling for the "deportation of asocial foreigners"). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration...
Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.
Edit:typo
Can they please conduct raids here in the US too
Thanks
God imagine the heads exploding if an EU or UN force raided some hick compound.
Hopefully literally.
Let me guess, the related nazi group in the US is protected under at least ten amendments to continue being nazis.
Land of the freak
It's about time we stopped protecting Nazi politics under the rubric of 'free speech'.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
Agreed.
It's like allowing ISIS to parade in the streets. Same terrorist ideologies.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant.
They want to silence and kill the majority of the population - stopping them from being able to do that by whatever means necessary is the pro-free speech move.
...also, stomping Nazis is fun - I recommend trying it.
I like to point to the tolerance paradox. If we want to be tolerant forever, there has to be a limit as to how tolerant we can be. And that anyone who preaches intolerance and hate deserves the gag order that comes their way. If you allow ethno-fascists to keep their platform, then you're effectively telling them that it's fine to be a violent asshat. It's not. And if they claim FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH, this does not come with freedom from criticism. I am under no obligation to engage constructively with your message, it's entirely within my right to at best for you, zone out and walk away, at best for me tell you to shut the fuck up and take your racist bullshit to some other place. Ideally some place where the sun don't shine.
Your freedom to randomly and violently flail your arms about ends where my face begins. As soon as your flailing your arms about starts to endanger people's faces, you should not be surprised that people start taking action to protect their faces. And on the other hand, if your face is being endangered by people flailing their arms about, it is your right to protect your face.
Get every last one of these fuckers!
I wish we would do it more often. But in fact west-germany and now whole germany always were slow in fighting against Nazis. Currently we have an extreme right-wing party in our parliaments. Many say they're all Nazis and our secret services say that large parts of them are Nazis. It's not funny anymore. Many people are thinking about leaving the country, especially jews. And if they're going to win the first big elections in the next few years, this won't be funny. Democracy will fail in germany, if we don't do anything about it. I am talking about AfD. https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/thueringen/umfrage-landtagswahl-sonntagsfrage-100.html if you look at the charts, you'll see that they're already the biggest force in Thüringen (one of our states). It's scary. Here's a source of our secret services, that they're extreme right-wing: https://verfassungsschutz.thueringen.de/rechtsextremismus/rechtsextremismus-thueringen/verdachtsfall-afd It says that parts of the party are a threat to our democracy.
There will be nowhere to run including worldwide because it's happening in every country even USA, Italy, Poland. You have to protect your country from within by participating politically. I sometimes wonder if this started with Putin helping install shadow candidates in various countries to make them dictator friendly but it's hard to say if it was that or happened organically.
Now that’s fantastic news!
Cause I could shoot you on sight, claim you're a Nazi, and it's now on you to defend yourself.. from the grave
"Let's sprinkle some swastikas on him and get outta here"
To be fair, there's a pretty decent amount of self-identification going on among modern (neo) Nazis.
Because this is not how justice work in modern countries, unless you're a nazi or a tankie.
More because it would have entailed quite the logistical conundrum as it's a bit difficult to run a country when most of its citizens are dead.
The Punk scene does, kinda. They don't shoot Nazis, but if Nazis/skinheads/fascists show up, they leave with black eyes, bloody noses, and fewer teeth.
Also SHARP
Complete denazification was kind of a myth actually. It took many decades to prosecute many perpetrators of the Shoa and WW2 on both sides of the Iron Curtain.
...also with what? /s
Demilitarisation was one of the post-war Ds (there are still like 20 million guns in Germany though).
Holocaust 2.0, the revenge of the jews
Electric Boogaloo
Because the opposite of Nazi is rule of law.
Good. No quarter for #fascists.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
BERLIN (AP) — The German government on Tuesday banned the neo-Nazi group Hammerskins Germany and raided homes of dozens of its members.
During the early morning raids in 10 states, around 700 police officers searched homes of 28 group members.
“According to our findings so far, significant amounts of right-wing extremist devotional objects have been seized in addition to cash,” the minister said.
Ahead of the ban, the German federal and state governments cooperated intensively for more than a year, Faeser said, adding that “we also worked closely with our American partners.”
The purpose of the association Hammerskins Germany is to consolidate its right-wing extremist worldview, particularly through concerts where it tries to appeal to non-members to radicalize them, the ministry said.
“Right-wing extremism remains the greatest extremist threat to the basic democratic order in Germany,” Faeser told reporters in Berlin.
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Bundesland translates to federal state.
Interesting how so many nazis have connections with US institutions, after all a Nazi general was the first head of Secretary General of NATO.
Not quite sure what the first "head of Secretary General of NATO" is, but the first"Secretary General of NATO" was Hastings Ismay.
I'm almost interested in hearing the absurd mental gymnastics you used to suggest this guy was a Nazi. Almost.
How so? I'm not sure what news you're talking about right now. You mean the rise of the far-right extremists AfD?
The nazi self.... can we ban this racist a**hole?