1y ago

Starfield is the latest game to be boycotted by conservatives. This time because of pronouns

theconversation.com Starfield is the latest game to be boycotted by conservatives. This time because of pronouns

Starfields is one of the biggest games of 2023 – but it’s joined other recent games like Baldurs Gate 3 in being boycotted by conservatives because of the way it interacts with gender.

politics @lemmy.world

theconversation.com /starfield-is-the-latest-game-to-be-boycotted-by-conservatives-this-time-because-of-pronouns-213244

435 182

83 comments

Oh no... the biggest assholes in the universe are threatening to avoid these games... whatever will we do? Who is going to call people racial slurs over multiplayer now?
- SF is single player only.
  
  Yeah Ok, but there are message boards and mod communities and social media. Anytime bigots voluntarily remove themselves from the conversation is a win.
  
  For now. It's possible it can go multiplayer though like Skyrim and Morrowind through 3rd party apps/mods. I currently host a for fun pop up multiplayer Morrowind server using tes3mp. Skyrim has a similar 4 person co-op mod.

Oh no! Developers will have to choose between catering to bigots and catering to literally everyone else! What ever will they do?!?
Seriously, I hope bigots continue to just remove themselves from all aspects of society.
- If the bigots would remove themselves from the voting booth that would be awesome. Is there some way we can link voting to being open minded?
  
  Get voting sheets to list the candidates’ pronouns and the problem will immediately resolve itself.
  
  In the voting booth, you can pick male, female and other.

I went to a comedy show in a somewhat "progressive" red area last night and the comic made a joke about pronouns (not in a negative light) but as soon as he mentioned pronouns pretty much the whole audience started booing at pronouns. It was pretty sad to see.
I genuinely cannot understand why anyone gets hot and bothered over pronouns. It's crazy. They're crazy people.
- Because rather than have empathy for others and realize how their actions might affect others, they'd rather focus solely on themselves and make everything about them and how they're inconvenienced.
  
  it’d make some amount of sense if they were actually inconvenienced but i’m still not understanding the inconvenience tbh
- Because the american education system failed them and they don't even know what pronouns are, they just know that someone told them that they have to hate it with a passion.
  
  Stops them hating the late-stage capitalist society which is what's ACTUALLY causing them grief
- They’re
  OMG that's a pronoun!
- Most of those people are unable to identify a pronoun in a sentence.
- They can't understand it and their brains are small enough that not being able to understand something makes them mad.
- Subscribe to some conservative YouTube channels or Instagram accounts. Pronouns, LGBTQ, racec etc. are brought up and criticized CONSTANTLY.

Who gives a shit?

Conservatives do excel at being outraged over nothing so this makes sense.

Good. Less jerks then.
- You'd think so, but weirdly enough, conservative "boycotting" more often than not seems to include buying and engaging with the things they claim they're not using.
  
  Conservatives boycotting means they'll buy something they wouldn't buy otherwise and then removed about it.
  It's bizarre.
  Like with the Budd thing a while back, sure, they do in fact normally do buy some Budd, but when they got their panties in a bunch over the LGBTQ stance Budd took, they bought truckloads of it, to then destroy it. They still bought a shitload more Budd than they normally would.
  It's bizarre.
  But in line with the rest of their behavior, since everything they do and say these days is completely unhinged.

They deliberately make their world a darker place and then complain about how dark the world is.
- It's their universal shtick.
  Like, complain about the economy, then when they are in power, ruin the economy.

I was looking at the Steam forums for Starfield earlier after googling some quest I was on.
Dear lord are they out in force.
And the twists and turns they are making to explain why they think the pronouns should be removed from the game without saying it's because they are easily triggered right wing fucklets is almost impressive.
And as expected, quite a few phrased as "as a libtard, even I think this should be removed for xyz removed reason".
And as we all know, any post that starts with "as a POC/WAMAN/RATIONAL PERSON" means some MAGAt jackass trying to be clever.
- It would be so funny if someone made a genuinely fantastic video game, and it starts with picking a gender and all, and then the first cutschene is that person transitioning. It doesn't matter for the plot and never comes up again in the game, because he or she is now just that. Can you imagine how they would freak the fuck out? I saw that other cunt's artery explode because there was a screen in starfield that asks you for your gender and you had more than two options.
- "As a black trans man I think there's too much wokism and POC in this game, and all the females are ugly and shouldn't be in leadership positions because that's unrealistic and they also talk back way too much."
  Average daily Steam forum user

Pronouns, body types, "replaced white people", female leaders, etc. - all part of the daily threads I've seen on the Steam forums.
- Some of the dumbest people I've ever encountered are present on steam communities and comment sections.
- Not enough white people in space!!!

I think this is what conservatives call "virtue signaling".

They already gave up a few days after release when the initial troll rush got bored. They usually aren't the ones actually playing the game, they're absolute loser fragile snowflakes.

What a bunch of fucking snowflakes.

I'd it wasn't a problem in call of duty shoot a man when Richard Nixon respected our pronouns it isn't an issue now. They just hate whatever they're told to.

All because some fat man baby shat his/their depends.
- If you look at his previous track record, he specialized in making fake outrage videos for attention in the World of Warcraft scene

Sci-fi and Horror two genres that really aren't know for their conservative values and the media often pushes social norms. Not sure what they were exspecting
- If conservatives were smart they wouldnt be conservatives.
- Yes, but, a lot of the capital-g Gamers are reactionary howler monkeys who can not handle anything not specifically geared towards cis, straight white men, so I’m not surprised they lost their shit at a menu option.
- Horror two genres that really aren’t know for their conservative values a
  Objection. It's obviously a huge genre, but there is certainly conservatism to be found there. I point to the xenophobia of Lovecraft as an example and the tropes of teenager slashers where "slutty" women die and "pure" women live, and Black people tend to not live long.
  
  Never look up the name of Lovecraft’s cat. Dude was every kind of The Other-phobic there WAS.
  
  There's also that old slasher trope where teenagers making out in a car = they're about to get murdered by the monster or serial killer.
- How are they even so sure how the world looks like in a couple hundred years? And what about all the highly dystopian sci-fi settings where people live under basically total control of their daily lives? Why is that not outrage for them? Instead they go after scenarios that are simply more inclusive, the horror.

Oh no…please …stop
…don’t—-come back…

I'm only somewhat aware of the Starfield issue, but this headline is raw clickbait.

Pronouns make them angry a lot. I am not that shocked.
- If you misgender them, suddenly they care A LOT about their pronouns.
  
  Maybe that’s the key to shutting them up. In person, anyway.
  “Ma’am, everyone has a right to exist”
  anger intensifies “I’m not a woman, I’m a MAN!”
  “Oh, so you do care about pronouns then”

I'm betting a lot of them will still play it--and just claim boycott to fit in with the other chuds. Wtf difference does it make anyway? They like to pretend they have major influence while in reality all they get is a silly blurb like this pointing out their snowflake behavior.

I wonder if they realize you can name a male character a female name and that there are same-sex relationships. Of course that is all optional, but don't let that stop a good outrage. In fact the pronoun thing is nothing unless you deliberately change from the defaults.

Star field already made it's cost back right..... so what the fuck does a boycott do?
- "We made enough money," said no capitalist ever. To be clear, I don't support this boycott, but it is an effective form of protest because the company expects to make more money. Which they will, because bigots are more powerful than they should be, but aren't as powerful as they like to imagine
  
  I mean something that has to be realized is that this isnt like bud light. Bud light has very low margins, video games are dependent on most of the money coming in when the game is released. To assume the lowest confirmed numbers Starfield has already made 420 million dollars. Even if Bethesda is the worst run company, that's enough money to run the game for a while
- Virtue signal to their fellow hatemongers.

lmao

15 idiots big mad.
This is just rage bait. You folks are predictably taking the bait and running with it.
- My dude, I have literally seen, on the Fediverse in a gaming comm today, someone linking to all the places you can get the mod to take the pronoun option out since Nexus Mods won’t host it, and it’s currently at a 50-50 like to dislike ratio. These people are legit out there. It’s not as fringe as we want to think it is.
  
  Luckily it’s now gone / removed
  
  Lol you are talking about 20 people living in their basement. You really need to touch grass and get perspective. A few people on fucking lemmy 🤣 is not even a remotely representative population.
- I don't see any rage here. Can you please quote the rage?
  
  The rage is within them, and it's coming out as smug finger pointing. They don't know what The Conversation is, and they think they can just cargo cult criticize it.

83 comments