LGBTQ+ parents are being removed from their children’s birth certificates in Italy

It's all political, for all their talk about the traditional family, Meloni had a child outside of marriage, and Salvini is divorced.

Unfortunately, the places where you can go are an ever-decreasing list. Some Nordic countries, a few EU ones, that's about it. Fascism is growing into a majority in literally the rest of the world.

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The way italy is going, they're trying to be mussolini all over again.

Gods, Marriage equality was one of rhe biggest hurdles in Trans activism back in the day and one of the reasons for the banding together of the T and the LGB. It really is like watching progress undo in reverse chronological order.

History facr. Back in the before days you couldn't change your gender designation on your legal documents because people were worried that gay and lesbian people would use transitioning as a way to get around the marriage ban which was the major hangup. Same sex marriage thus made it possible for trans people to socially transition from a legal standpoint.

Not a historian, nor Italian, so double check me on this, but a big part of the "why" is that the facists were never removed from Italy. They've just been kind of allowed to fester since 1946. I mean, Germany didn't really get rid of their facists either, but the Italian facist movement was basically unscathed. Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI) was founded in 1946 by Facists literally from Mussolini's party, and maintained relevance by making political alliances with other, more moderate conservative parties.

Some facists just straight up joined the Liberal parties. Fernando Tambroni, Christian Democratic Prime Minister of Italy for 116 days in 1960, for instance, was a Facist Party member during the war, and was quite the fan of Mussolini. The subsequent Prime Minister, Christian Democrat Party leader, Amintore Fanfani, who served five non-consecutive terms as PM, was also a member of the Facist Party.

In the 90s other facist parties, particularly Forza Italia, and Alleanza Nazionale were spun off from MSI and basically wore a better better mask, and managed to get Berlusconi, also a Mussolini Stan, in as PM.

We could continue doing pointing out facists in powerful positions in Italian politics, and we skipped the whole "decades of facist terrorism" thing, but really the reason Italy jumped to fascism is because it has been there the whole time, and has had power semi-regularly.

Not a historian but their location makes it easy to scapegoat people so fascists can rise to power

Is it Italy? Or is it just humans?

Italy had a strong communist presence since forever, after WWI fascism was supported by the elite to counter that, and after WWII it was supported by the "liberators", the US, for obvious reasons.

How many world war losses before Italy cuts its ties with facism, I wonder.

If they cared about that, they would make a law that forces all newborns and their 'parents' to submit to a DNA test before issuing a certificate. This is just being done to make it harder for LGBTQ+ parents to have the same rights and responsibilities as straight parents. Not being named on your kid's birth certificate makes things so much harder when dealing with government programs and even enrolling in school or taking them to the doctor.

I imagine you think this because of medical things (heredity and all that) AFAIK It isn't used for such things, only for legal responsibility (adoption for instance would modify it), so in order to protect the position of those who actually raise the kid and the stability of their family, I don't agree with you. Not without changing the role of the birth certificate first at least

Mine does not, it shows my parents who have legal custody over me, they are not lgbtq+. That is what a birth cert shows, the people who have legal custody and responsibility for you.

They definitely should.