Elon Musk Now Wants to Charge ALL Users For Twitter

Amen to that!
I am not religous but I approve of this message!
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The besedestest

Do it. Not doing it is square bro.

Not charging is WOKE
- Literally communism

He told Benjamin Netanyahu?... He just decided to tell the prime minister of Israel? Of all people?

Not like a press announcement, a notification to people using the site? Just to some politician he was talking to while on some rich wankers holiday?

Twitter doesn't have a press office anymore. So he can't do that.
- 💩
Yup, because Musk has no ability to plan ahead. He thinks his every idea is perfect and that he should instantly implement whatever nonsense he just came up with.
- I know you think this is unusual but you’ve literally just described every founder or C level I have ever dealt with throughout over 20 years in tech. I mean you’d think that two decades would be enough to at least observe a single outlier but nope.
I'm surprised you're surprised
Seems he is interested in the spyware.

Please god do it. Force the terminally online Xitter users to quit

“[We’re] moving to a small monthly payment for use of the X system,” he just told Benjamin Netanyahu, saying it’s [the] only way to stamp out ~~bots~~ actual human users .

FTFY

It'll remove more humans than bots if Classic WoW has taught me anything.

We're finally reaching the true death throes of Twitter! I'm so happy.

I sincerely hope his management team applies their best judgment and deliver exactly what their boss requested of them. It's the right thing to do according to their employment contracts.
I’ve been waiting 15 years for this.

So, he's kinda pulling a Unity.

I shit you not, the board member whose idea was Unity pay per install is Musk's friend, they were both executives at PayPal.
- Lol. These motherfuckers at the top must be all acquinted.
  
  "It's a big club and you ain't in it."
- And /u/spez is tight with that crowd too, so you can guess where the API monetization idea came from
- He was also the CEO of EA when it was voted Worst Company in the World. Off the top of my head, I believe it was the second time they won the Golden Poo award, during the height of their SimCity fiasco.
- It's the PayPal Mafia

FFS he actually calls it "the X system." Like it's not still just Twitter.

I’m gonna keep deadnaming his company for as long as he keeps deadnaming his daughter.
- Deadnaming people = broke
  
  Deadnaming corpos = woke
- Well put. I just say I don't cater to the whims of billionaires, but that's an even better argument.
- he has children? only kid I know is that one kid that was named A X 010 or smth

I want to charge Elon Musk for helping russian terrorists in their genocide of Ukrainian children.

Make it so, please make it so.

Please let it die. It will be nice to force media outlets to actually put effort into stories again, instead of just reporting on what is being tweeted by the usual gaggle of assholes.

They'll just report on what is said on other social sites, if it dies completely
- There's already a concerning number of articles that just pull sources from Reddit...which then get posted onto Reddit for more discussion.
  
  Hopefully Lemmy doesn't end up like that.

I'm glad he decided to finally kill it for good.

it's about damn time.

There will be singing, and dancing, in Jerusalem when this happens! Can't wait for Twitter to disappear!

I'm gonna make it through this year if it kills me.
- I hadn't thought of the Mountain Goats in years. Thank you, I get to rediscover them.
DON'T YOURS MEAN ✗, IT CAN DO EVERYTHING AND DRIVE YOUR CAR TO YOUR PERFECT SUBURBTOPIA

^(no, you're screaming, I'm just being sarcastic)
very unexpected place to find a TMG reference but I'm not complaining
There will be singing, and dancing, in Jerusalem when this happens! Can’t wait for Twitter to disappear!

Is Jerusalem some kind of dogwhistle about "greedy Jews"??? Who even brought up Jerusalem?

Looks like the alt-right infiltrated lemmyworld too
- It's a Mountain Goats reference, bozo. But I'd expect nothing more intelligent to come from someone who calls themselves "King Capitalist"
- It's a fucking song reference. Also, it's a particularly popular song, especially in lieu of the recent pandemic and such. It's been on the late show with Colbert.

I had a momentary panic because it's the end of the month and I'm low on money... but then I remembered I deleted my Twitter account and life has just been absolutely peachy since then.

Is anyone else amazed that it's lasted almost a year?

No, inertia is a thing and Twitter was one of the biggest brands on the planet when Musk bought it. If anything, he speedruns its demise.
- Twitter was never a particularly big brand. Even in just the space of social media it was an also-ran.
  
  At its peak (and it's nowhere near its peak now!) Twitter had ~400 million monthly active users. Reddit has ~500 million. Snapchat ~750. Telegram ~800. LinkedIn ~930 (!). Messenger and TikTok ~1 billion each. Instagram and Whatsapp ~2 each. Youtube ~2.5. And Facebook ~3 billion.
  
  Twitter at its peak is just barely outside of rounding error territory compared to Facebook and Youtube.
  
  And here I've compared Twitter against its "peers": international social media sites. There are regional social media sites that are bigger than Twitter was at its peak. QZone is ~500 million. QQ and Weibo are ~575. Kuaishou is ~650. Douyin (Tiktok's origin) is ~725. WeChat is 1.3 billion. These six sites are in one country only ... and each of them are larger than Twitter's highest ever count. (And note that in China Weibo is considered largely a joke. At 550 million. Larger, again I stress, than Twitter was at its peak.)
  
  The only reason Twitter has ever been treated as anything but a loser's game is because lazy-assed reporters found reading sound bites on Twitter was easier than doing actual reportage. As a result Twitter has had outsized visibility for its rather pathetic actual participation.
  
  The same reporters who report on China by looking in on Weibo (the "joke").

I love that he is gradually transforming into a testicle.

I think this is the best thing that could happen. The Internet can talk shit but Musk has been playing two-dimensional Chess all along.

LOL
Chess is by default two-dimensional or three-dimensional, if you count time. Maybe you meant four-dimensional? That's what they say when they mean a joke or to say that he's smart.
- I think that is the joke

Every time this asshole is in the news, I'm happier that I deleted my Twitter account.

That may have worked at the beginning but if they do that now, X is officially dead.
Someone explain to me why I'm wrong please.

You are correct.

He wants people to pay for a "service" (lol) that is now FAR WORSE than it was when it was free (in every single way) + one that doesn't even work correctly.
That may have worked at the beginning

Initially? Maybe... But a big part of Twitter is just people sharing links of celebrity posters with one another casually. It would have eaten away the base of all the casual users. And then celebrity engagement would sag, which would discourage them from using the platform. It would have been a slower death spiral.

But with competing services ramping up and people already migrating away by degrees, the old networks that made Twitter valuable are breaking down. Why pay to put up with this shit when you can be on Reddit or Threads or WorldStar for free instead?
- I maybe click a link to the site every couple of weeks if it's a source on something I can't get elsewhere, but then that I can't see any replies or whatever without logging in just makes me glad I left.
  
  And I was a big user. 10k followers, 100+ likes on most posts I made. Elon hacked it to pieces of course, but it was mortally wounded by the 2018 algo change.
- Why are people still there anyway? I hear I can't leave because of the people. I think this well work for the people still there.
I hope he does it, I want more people on Bluesky....
- Looks interesting, invite only it appears though.

Lol. It's like he's in a weird competition to lose 44B as fast as possible.

In excess of 150B. His net worth plummeted because he had to sell Tesla stock to afford it and the selling caused Tesla stock to plummet.
- Well if money was a pissing contest, Elon won, hands down..

Somebody convince me he didn't buy this company (with Middle East govs backing him) just to kill it. I'll wait.

He didn't buy the company with the intent to kill it, he didn't even intend to buy the company at all. He made a joke offer to buy the company and took it to far, so they were able to sue him and force him to buy the company. If anything he hoped to get some trade secrets out of them before withdrawing the offer.
- Hey guys, check it out, I'm entering into a legally binding contract as a hilaaaarious joke. So funny, oh my lmao! I'm such a joker. You know me, I just do it for the rotfls.
He's just incredibly, unbelievably incompetent
- You may be right, I just have an easier time believing he's evil than this goddam stupid.
He’s really just incompetent. He’s going to go down in history as the greatest example of upward failing ever. He’s just held onto shares for companies that happened to work out - most of the time despite his best efforts - and was frequently fired for it.

He’s a con man who has fallen for his own con and thinks he’s actually as smart as he pretends to be.

I'm sorry, but after all these articles on lemmy about this bozo, I'm realizing he has a seemingly slappable face

I was just thinking how fast his face has aged in just the last ~6 years. He doesn't look healthy to me. Something is going on.
- If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
  
  A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.
  
  Roald Dahl, The Twits
- Bear in mind that his public perception has gone from lovable billionaire selling flamethrowers because it's cool, to right wing douchebag supporting putin. News outlets tend to pick nice photos of the "good guy" and find something awful for the bad.
  
  Though I do agree, he's not aged well. But our perception is probably skewed by cherry picked photos for news articles through the years.

Please do Facebook next.

Zuck is smarter than Elon.
- And more tech savvy it would seem. He can do the technobabble razzle dazzle bullshit way better
- They trust me, Dumb fucks
  
  -Mark Zuckerberg
- And more tech savvy it would seem. He can do the technobabble razzle dazzle bullshit way better
No, Jira

lol do it Muskrat, I dare you.

Mastodon + the Ice Cubes app for iOS is far better than Twitter ever was. Plus the platform comes with the added benefit of a userbase that's openly hostile toward fascist rhetoric.

It's a Xitter, Michael - what could it cost? Ten dollars?

Does anyone think it's a good idea for an idiot with effectively unlimited money (though he's working damn hard to change that) to be making pricing decisions?

Does anyone think it’s a good idea

An endless conga line of Elon Musk dick riders will continue to tell you its a good idea.
- The remaining dickriders could barely be considered human. If you're supporting that obvious moron and mockery of the concept of meritocracy against your personal interests and those of humanity, there's something fundamentally broken in you that's disconnected from reality and what it means to be sapient.
I don't think it's a good idea for an idiot with effectively unlimited money to make ANY decisions. He's divorced from reality.
- Oh I totally agree - he's entirely divorced from the experiences and troubles of 99.99999% of humanity - but deciding to set his own pricing when he barely understands what money is just acting against his own self-interest.
  
  At least hubris is in our corner.

I cant wait! :D

Finally a good reason to like Elon, he's gonna kill Twitter :D

seriously tho, this is pretty fucking BS of him lmao.
- yes!

This is so dumb. Obviously they need to move to a PPT model (Price Per Tweet).

Tell him what a good idea it was back when SMS text messages used to be 10 cents each.
- That was a complete ripoff back then though.
  
  The SMS system was designed from the ground up to not require additional overhead.
How do we get this idea out there to him, and make him think it was his idea?
- Ask him 'how much he thinks each tweet costs twitter?'
  
  He'll have an analyst run the numbers. After a few months it'll bother him so much he'll come back with the idea that it should be charge per tweet. Works like a charm.
- Show him the gut of 3rd party apps and how much they're paying after Reddit did the same thing?
Pay Per Read Tweet is a better model just look at all the praise Unity is getting now for their new monetization model
Make it retroactive for Trump
yes
If you move to a price per tweet, you're getting close to just doing it on something like Ethereum with rollups.

That would be truly free speech and uncensorable if that's truly what he wanted (it isnt)

But the last thing he wants is to convince people on a price per message model as getting people used to that will make it that much easier to migrate one day in the future to something blockchain based.

I don't think it'd be the same problem with a monthly sub, just per tweet.

Edit: and yes, he should totally do it, either way it'll fuck twitter in the short or long term.
- If you move to a price per tweet, you’re getting close to just doing it on something like Ethereum with rollups.
  
  That would be truly free speech and uncensorable if that’s truly what he wanted (it isnt)
  
  So ... "truly free speech" is "speech you have to pay for".
  
  I'm spotting a slight flaw in this logic.
  
  That's not free speech by any definition of "free".
PPI. Price per imprint. Every time a tweet is shown in your feed, you get charged.

How do you want to be an everything app with no users?

Oh I forgot about that plan. There’s so many stupid ideas I can’t remember them all.

Hahahahaha! He should totally do this!

No balls if you back our now Elon. No balls!

No, no, do it per tweet getting a retweet or a heart or whatever "X" does, so that everyone using the service does it with a huge risk to get bancrupted if people either like or hate your tweet too much. It will definitely work, thrust me Musk.

That sounds like a great system for a video game engine, too!
- unity
This comment got surprisingly kinky right at the end.
- It took me forever to find my mistake. 😅

Everything he's done has damaged Twitter and its user community.

That was - rather transparently - his goal from the very beginning.
- Please elaborate. If he hated twitter, couldnt he just shut it down after buying it?

Please, send him to Mars

One way ticket please.
- Without a EV suit

I think what we have here is a "Brewster's Millions" situation, where Musk is bound to a secret contact where he has to lose a ton of money with nothing to show for it in order to win a larger fortune.

What kind of contract would that be ?
- Watch Brewster's Millions.

Free speech!

Thank you Elon for successfully doing what others failed to achieve by destroying twitter.

I hope this will be the final blow to twitter. Ive hated it, even before musk. I dont see the use of such service

I used it for immediate news during emergencies and also if there's a big crash in F1 and the cameras won't show what's happening until the driver's confirmed okay.

So, like once every three years for a few mins.

It's good for that.
I don't know if any social media platform could survive charging even as low as 1 dollar per year. Even if they somehow end up net positive in money, there won't be enough people using the new platform for it to become the platform most normal people use.
I didn't use it either, but a lot of people did - often for much more important things than what we're doing here. That's why he is killing it.

Good... fire burns faster with fuel.

That's a bold move, Cotton.

He's going to kill Twitter/X and you can't stop him!

Now? Pretty sure he wanted to do that form the beginning.

I was always told "The Stupid Tax" wasn't a real thing... but then Elon goes and does another thing...

I was always told “The Stupid Tax” wasn’t a real thing…

I was always told “The Stupid Tax” was tithing.
- I always heard it was lottery tickets

Maybe this will cause my favorite creators to finally leave that hellsite, and come to the fediverse (not Bluesky, nor Threads).

Do what now?

He could change his name to Elon "Lowtax" Musk, add a forums.twitter.com URL and live amongst the greatest of edge lords.

I’d love to see him take the full scenic Lowtax route but he already weaseled his way out of a TBI from Zuck (which suggests that, like Lowtax did, he has a spine made of wood pulp). On the other hand, he’s got the same sterling reputation as a father.

No one has ever done more for Mastodon than Elon Musk. Kudos!

Yes, please

The worse X get's the better Mastodon get's. I see this as an absolute win win scenario, thank you Elon Musk.

Do it coward. I win "told you so" rights if Twitter dies before the year is out.

I just call it Twitter, it'll piss him off more.

"The community formerly known as Twitter"
- The former Twitter community that got X'd.

Didn't see that one coming... back in January

So, it'll be a platform that only rich rapists and their apolgizers will use.

Should make law-enforcement's job easier.

Mastadon!

Oh sorry. I thought were we talking about our favorite Power Ranger Morphing Activations...

This will face backlash.

I don't think so. Twitter (X) users tend to be relatively mellow and don't mind parting with their money. Elon Musk is a beloved genius and even more people will love him if he does this. They'll love him just like he always wanted his father to love him.
- Did you read the article? An extremely small percentage of users have subscribed to blue. I highly doubt even 20% of the user base would pay.
  
  There’s really no alternative. Sure, mastodon seem great. But most are on Twitter because that’s where the people are. It’s not as easy to swap out as Reddit, because it’s not just about any content that anyone can post. It’s about following specific people.

Hahahaha...

Oh wait. You're serious. Let me laugh even harder.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

I genuinely want him to do this, the response would be excellent

I hope that means the account I can't remember the password to will finally be deleted.

Will people get all the features back he previously removed after he charges them a fee, or what value does he offer to his paying customers?

He provides a safe haven for nazis, neo nazis, and their ilk.

It will be the final nail in the coffin

Please God let it be the final nail in the coffin. Amen.

23 cents/day via web signup at https://t.co/JUTlIcVsSe https://t.co/mrkHZ2xy6x

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 16, 2023

Hm, 14c/day would be too on the nose for him, let’s go with the other le funneh number for the lulz

I don't really get the numbers, does 23 have some significance?
- It's one third of 69.
- 14c/day × 30 days = 420c 23c/day × 30 days = 690c 420 and 69

Elon: I’m going to drop a deuce in your mouth, and you’re going to pay for it: rest of humanity: ….. ( gets up and leaves)

Elon: come back here! Freeze peach! I’ll give you a pony, pinky swear!!

(Door slamming shut)

Good, one step closer to it shutting down.

I hope for the sake of destroying that platform that he goes through with this change

And the death bell rings.

I would say Elon is trying to squeeze one last bit of cash from this dumpster fire before cutting his losses and liquidating it all, but given past evidence I think he just actually thinks this will work going forward.

Elon Musk doesn’t have the balls to do that.

Yeah, Elon isn't manly enough to charge for access to Twitter, just like he wasn't manly enough to fight Zuckerberg. Bokk bokk bokk
- Despise them both but would pay to watch the Zuck skullfcuk that walking air fryer doughboy
Doesn't take balls, just stupidity. And he is that stupid.

We need to get a bunch of people he hates - AOC, Zelensky, the NHTSA - to talk about how this is a terrible idea and would make them very sad.

Yes please! This will finally push most users still on there to actually leave.

Do it pleaaaaseeeee

Welp, he can suck on the head of his dead bird for all I care. I want him to ban me actually, I don't even use his service, except to slip in subtle jabs at Elon himself.

X users after Elon says he's gonna starts charging to use X:

And try to stop them:

Can we stop reporting on every little thing the xitter site does, thank you

This is an important new strat in Musk's Death of Twitter any% speedrun that is worth mentioning.
Take a look at the name of the community you're in. (You can block communities, BTW.)
- I did and I have, but I don't mind expressing that anyway.

I'm gonna miss the good fan artists on my fyp, then.

Stupid Space Karen.

such a brilliant idea

In my opinion this won't kill the platform. If those still using it are still there after all that happened since this clown took over, then nothing will make them leave the platform. They'll pay for it and they'll continue to enjoy it.

Wildly incorrect. Most people will never pay a cent for social media. They are still on X because they don’t care about politics at all, or have an audience there they don’t want to give up. That’s it.

The small cadre of sycophants that are willing to pay for Twitter Blue would stay and those are the people who love him, but 50,000 people is not a social network. It would 100% kill the site.

I really hopes he goes through with it.

85 dollars a year

First good idea he's had, to be honest ...as long as he axes ads, too. I'm betting he won't do that, though.

I found this neat comment floating on the interwebs "As someone who has never subscribed to X or Fakebook, I applaud the move. Not sure what if any social redeeming purpose it has other than being a time killing amusement. And if that is the case people should expect to pay for the value of the amusement they are getting. Obviously, advertisers don't take X that seriously, if they did then the ads would pay enough where X wouldn't have to charge. Deep State propagandists were more interested in Twitter than advertisers. I always saw that as a problem is which why I never subscribed. Finding unbiased facts on the internet is hard as prospecting for gold."

Man, this guy's favorite hobby has to be digging holes. I hope he's read the book, it's really good.

The best way, IMO to combat bullshit on social media is to make people submit their personal information (ie govt ID etc) to have an account. I don't support or condone that, but it would cut down on trolling and other shit dramatically. He's not wrong that charging would stymie bot accounts, but it won't stop them, and will piss off your user base in the process.

that's an insane barrier to entry just to browse social media
- Whoa there, sport. You got a license for that reply?

Ok just please stop posting about it

I dont care about elon or his stupid companies

Then don't go into the community for Elon Musk stories.
Why are you on an anti Elon Musk community then? The content here will be about his latest blunders and incompetence

This piece of trash sub is like if you had a fire extinguisher that only shoots fire.

If only you could block subs you didn't like...