Accurate.
Accurate.
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Happening in Germany right now, we are at step 2
Step 3. The CDU knew the AfD would vote with them (and without the nazi votes they wouldn't have been able to pass this legislation).
They didn't knew they even made a deal in advance, which makes it worse
We are at step 4.
Step 4 was skipped. We're either at 3 with what happened in Thüringen this week or 5 (also Thüringen, Landkreis Sonneberg).
Hello from Germany. We just passed step 3.
I wouldn't worry. We're Germans. We're genetically incapable of voting fascists into power.
Yeah not like thats ever happened before in Germany
YOLO it just happened, AFD & CDU big coalition. Its normal now
/s (i hope)
4 already
Sweden currently has a right-wing government supported by the Nazis (the SD party, who have roots in Sweden’s WW2-era NSDAP affiliates, though vigorously deny being Nazis), who are still considered too much of a hot potato to let into the government proper, so they have to have their offices outside the government building of the parliament and launder their policy ideas through the mainstream right-wing parties. Most of the policies thus laundered can be summed up as “make Greta Thunberg cry”: cutting diesel taxes, scrapping high-speed rail plans, and just now scrapping the plastic-bag surcharge, a move that has no purpose other than to be culture-war red meat. (Make Greta Cry are the only culture-war issues they can agree on; beyond that, they’re coming to blows on things like Pride flags/LGBT rights and such.) Other than that, they’ve bringing in tougher requirements for Swedish citizenship, but not much more than that.
Theoretically, if the right gets re-elected in 2026, it’s possible that the Nazis (the largest party among them) will be in government proper, or even that their Reichsführer Jimmie Åkesson (a mediagenic stuffed shirt good at making a motley crew of thugs and bigots look like “citizens with legitimate concerns”) would be prime minister. In practice, the right are tanking in polling, and it’s not getting any better for them, and a Socialdemokraterna-led centre-left coalition is likely to be the next government. Of course, a lot can happen between now and then, but short of a Riksdag fire or 9/11-style spectacle, I can’t see them turning this around easily, as it has become painfully apparent that a significant proportion of the coalition are cretins.
For those who aren't familiar with Swedish domestic politics: this is a good example of why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. The parent comment appears to be written in bad faith and borders disinformation.
The Sweden Democrats/Sverigedemokraterna, which the poster is referring to as nazis, have always been advocaters for a more strict migration policy. Apart from that they are pretty much aligned in the middle.
The actual nazi party (Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen) got 847 votes (0,01%) in the 2022 riksdag election and the poster knows this. Alternativ För Sverige/AfS, the closet nazis and where most people draw the actual line for the extreme right, got 16 646 votes (0,26%). Data from The Swedish Election Authority
Underrated comment.
I wonder what OP think AFS/NMR are if SD are Nazis.
I'll never vote left due to all the immigration and shootings. AfS looks extremely tempting.
Finland at the final step. One of current ruling parties is a populist conservative one with openly racist views. And our right wing parties are sucking their dicks cause together they can bash some unions. A fucking disgrace.
French here, we are currently oscillating between steps 3, 4 and 5 and we get closer to 6 each year :/
From my perspective the center became extreme right this year... It's actually the extreme right that choose to vote their laws because they are exactly what they like.
That strategy worked out great for Germany in the early 20th century. What could go wrong?!
Its a few swings away from working pretty well in America, too.
Hold our beer real quick.
Nothing, since this time the United States won't be there to save the world with their facism-lite program
Sweden? Somebody's confusing countries. That's exactly what's happening in Germany now.
And in every europe country.
Canada's right is also siding with the far right on policies. Hopefully they do not gain power.
They're gaining power and will continue to do so, as the left refuses to bend to populist demand.
We're already at step 5 in the Netherlands unfortunately..
Awesome. There won't be a European war against fascism this time because France, Germany, Italy, the UK and Poland will be on the same side this time. Good to hear that the Dutch will be as well.
This is not depressing at all.
And the vvd is seriously flirting with the idea of 6.
I'd like to add that both sides of the political spectrum caused their extreme growth. There was a huge storm of dissatisfaction regarding the immigration politics and at one point I recall our government sponsored news channel showing statistics of about 70% of Swedens citizens were asking for reducing it as it was unsustainable. During this time the centrist right leader held a speech about how "this current situation will cost us a LOT of money, but we need to open our hearts" while the left flat out ignored the problems and said we were a "Humanitarian great power" and stated we were getting highly educated doctors and professors.
The only party that spoke against it was the extreme right, and any mention of anti-immgration caused a massive shitstorm by any other political party that refused to touch the subject. Quite obviously when you polarize the country and refuse to listen to your voters, they'll go to the party that DO.
I'm not defending or showing support for them, I'm just explaining how they're this big because of the arrogance and ignorance of the other parties. THEY made them big and now they have to work with them.
During this time the centrist right leader held a speech about how “this current situation will cost us a LOT of money, but we need to open our hearts” while the left flat out ignored the problems and said we were a “Humanitarian great power” and stated we were getting highly educated doctors and professors.
Pretty much exactly what happened in Germany. But because of German history there was not even an honest debate about cost and instead a lot mental gymnastics of how it could benefit the country.
The only party that spoke against it was the extreme right, and any mention of anti-immgration caused a massive shitstorm by any other political party that refused to touch the subject.
Yeah, this is the problem right here. If none of the mainstream political parties are representing a particular opinion, large swathes of voters will go to the fringe parties that do represent how they feel. And this is how fringe far-right parties become the new mainstream.
It sucks to admit it, because on humanitarian grounds, I'm pretty in favour of accepting migrants, refugees, etc. But if such a large fraction of the population is against it, it simply can't happen, and compromises have to be made.
Hapenned in Brazil, but now center-right is bleeding votes to the right wing.
That's why I don't get how every single center-right party is going this way.
They hope to get votes back from radicalized people but in the end they make more people radical and then they vote for the "original" or "against the establishment"
Giving Nazis an inch just makes them take the next one, too until there's nothing left
This. It sucks that the far right makes the moderate right look weak. It's not.
the "moderate right" is radicalizing its voters and itself so of course they end up with the far right.
Germany is on #2, going strong to #3 atm
Idk but probably the same as anywhere else. Racism, misogyny and a good portion of fear and hate for people that stick out in any way. Populism, simple thruths and wishing things were like at least a few decades ago.
Topics that work every time are crime and immigration. And on top of those evergreens they also need about 1 current topic. For example hating on trans-people. (But I don't know if it's that in sweden.)
What (s)he said @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de
Also, interestingly, the Swedish far-right party actually ranges from right to centre-left in the traditional sense of right/left wing politics. It's just that far right has become synonymous with nationalist/populist.
See also Overton Window
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That whole series is pretty enlightening on the process of online right wing radicalization. For young men, that is. Definitely worth your time!
It lost me when it said white liberals just want moral wins over conservatives and don't care about minorities.
By and large, they do. As an establishement, the Democrats only have a passing interest in entertaining the idea of passing legislation that would increase racial equity in any meaningful manor in the US. It's the same story in plenty of other countries too.
It's worth pointing out that "liberal" in the context of political discourse of this kind isn't the broader, more common definition of "progressive, vaguely left leaning" but liberalism or more accuratelyneoliberalism
It amazes me how many people know nothing about the situation in Sweden, but automatically side against a party because it is labelled right wing. And worse, now compared to Drumpf.
Meanwhile, Austria reached step 6 in the early 2000s and is now at step 7, the Nazis are polling at number 1 with a comfortable distance to the next party.
Last time I checked, AFS was not in goverment. I would say that the "far-right" is voting more centrist now than when they first came to be, like the popular parties we have now. S doesnt support nazis anymore or work with race biology. All of this I would say is better than before, even tho I agree that some things still are a little too right-leaning right now
Last time I even heard of AFS was years ago. I have heard of NMR recently, but that was because of the excellent documentary "Omgiven av fiender" (surrounded by enemies).
Unless of course OP means that Sverigedemokraterna is "far right", or even Nazis as some here in the comments claim. I do wonder then what NMR/AFS would be. Ultra extreme far right ultra-Nazis?
Sweden already started their eugenics program when they officially decided to murder elderly COVID patients instead of treating them.
Ah wow, when did this occur? It seem implausible that a nation would refuse to treat a patient unless hospitals were at some sort of max capacity, how many people died in this manner? What is the inflection age where the death trend for that age group spikes? I would expect it to be visible and measurable. Did any other countries practice such a program?
Also you said it was an official declaration, what date did this announcement occur? It might help to reduce the questions I ask if I can look it up and link it.
The country’s treatment of the elderly and patients with comorbidities such as obesity was especially appalling.
“Many elderly people were administered morphine instead of oxygen despite available supplies, effectively ending their lives,” the researchers wrote. “Potentially life-saving treatment was withheld without medical examination, and without informing the patient or his/her family or asking permission.”
Article based on this paper.
Sweden took a sociopath-based approach no matter which way you look at it.
Good lord, take your meds.
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Go fuck yourself
not really accurate but I'd be interested in how you rationalize the points
edit: just to point out how convoluted these points are many if not most can be applied to the previous social-democratic lead government
I'd be interested in how it is inaccurate instead of you just blurting out that it is and then demanding an explanation.
The right (who seem to ruin our great nation anytime they get their greedy, treasonous hands on it) realised they wasn't going to win this election without support from the nazi part so they buddied up with them.
Mass immigration in Europe, this is the answer. And now far right in a lot of countries seems too much globalist.
Seriously. Meloni in Italy now it is see as a globalist autoritarian leader, not a far right nationalist leader. She was voted to stop mass immigration and she increased it a lot. The only thing she has done has been some authoritatarian laws ( as every othet parties in italy , see m5s , pd ). American social issue are quite not existent really in italian society, so this is not a problem. ( body shaming is seen as fat glorification, in a country obsessed with well being and healty lifestyle )
This is such a gross oversimplification of the actual events that it tells us nothing.
More frustrating when seeing people weigh in on the issue who clearly lack even a fundamental understanding of the political landscape and history in Sweden.
You're know you're allowed to say why you think those things instead of just doing a generic ad hominem attack contributing nothing to the discussion nor countering anything that was said?
Okej, den kan jag faktiskt dels ge dig. Jag tänkte inte riktigt när jag postade, och ja, det är frustrerande när utlänningar fundamentalt missförstår svensk politik. Men jag tycker fortfarande att det är en något fungerande förenkling för utlänningar.
Det är helt missvisande eftersom den här personen verkar tycka att vågmästare tydligen menar sammarbete när sd fyllde samma roll under den socialdemokratiska regeringen