1y ago

It's a mass extinction event

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For those wondering, it's most likely a jab at unity with it's new license model, as you could code in C# in it.
- Is c# mainly just used in this engine?
  
  It's probably a tiny fraction of the C#/dotnet ecosystem. But hobbyist meme creators mostly care about games, I guess.
  
  No, as other's have pointed out it's not. There are plenty of other areas to use it, even in other game engines. OP is just trying to make it seem funny by making the exaggerated narrative that it's the only use case for C#. If Boo was still around in Unity this joke would been accurate with that, don't think that was used anywhere else
  
  It is also the language of DotNet framework so hardly.
  
  No, C# is a general purpose language that Unity has a botched, outdated version of.
  
  Not at all. Unity's use of C# is pretty unconventional even. Not representative at all.
  
  Absolutely not. It’s used everywhere on the web and other places.
- WTF I didn't understand, thanks for the explanation. The fact that it's used all around the world in big companies doesn't matter I guess.

You think C# is a Unity thing?
- I doubt the number of C# developers would drop even 1% due to Unity fucking itself.
- Me writing my silly little forms apps in silly little VS Pretty drop-down fields :)
  
  Oh, VS is not "little", it's one of the bloatiest pieces of software on earth.
  Also, Forms? How dare you. :p
  
  My boss: add this field to this old form.
  Me: open the form, add my field. Now VS crashes. I have to open the form code in a different editor and delete all the code VS added to the form when I opened it in the form editor.

Ok. What am I in the dark about this time?
- Guessing it’s about Unity changing their royalty structure.
  
  Which is kind of weird because most C# devs aren't doing games.
  
  Surely other engines use it? I know godot supports it. Not to mention half the business software of the world (pre cloud) seemingly built with it. etc

Thinking that C# is just Unity is a MASSIVE disservice to C# and dotnet imo. Unity's usage of C# is really crummy, basically relegating a very powerful language to working as a weird scripting language.
- Absolutely. C# in Unity always seemed to me like a square peg in a round hole.
  From my perspective (teaching game programming classes), it's incredibly clunky for beginners when compared to others. Unity needed a tightly integrated, noob-proof scripting language. Despite C# being the primary language, it's integration and setup with the rest of Unity seems surprisingly lacking, and, like you're referencing, you don't even get convenient use of the broader C# / Mono / .net ecosystem, which makes skills more portable. Even the "bad old days" of Flash/ActionScript were much easier for students, and results in more portable coding skills (e.g. at least transitioning to Web / JavaScript from Flash / ActionScript is easier)
  It's much easier to teach same lessons / concepts using Godot, though sadly Unity is much better known. Hopefully the present pricing chaos might shift the needle a bit on this!
  
  Unity used to also have UnityScript, but it's deprecated. It was like JS, but it wasn't really used by many people compared to C#.
  
  I am curious, what exactly is missing in the latest LTS version from .Net what makes it so clunky to use for students? Afaik it is pretty solidly close to actual .Net 4.7 nowadays.
- I'd say the same with Unreal and C++
  
  I mean you’re right, but I’ve never met anyone who thinks that way. C++ is everywhere (although C++ itself is just a hot mess of a language imo).
- Agreed, I feel like if someone starts their C# journey exclusively in Unity, they won't have a solid foundation in the actual language, just that specific implementation of it as a scripting language.
  
  Can confirm as someone who did exactly that before starting over with c++
  
  It is pretty damn close to actual C# nowadays. Some version, I think it was 2019, really upped up the scripting backend.
- Not to mention C# is also the best way to write a Godot project.

Look at all these C# dev who don't know the witch hunts are starting in 2024.
- Time to become a Visual Basic .Net developer
  
  Jokes on you, I am already one! (yes my company chosen dev language is really vbnet)
  
  The next Slay the Spire to be developed on Microsoft Access

Nice meme. I'll just ignore the fact most C# devs aren't game devs but...
Many other engines use C#. Godot is compatible with it, for example.
- How comparable is Godot to Unity feature-wise?
  
  This old manual page goes through a comparison of Unity and Godot.
- Is unity in C#?
- Nice reach. Gadot is garbage.
  
  Well you are free to not touch my free and open source garbage then...

Because the only possible thing to do in c# is unity stuff.........
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- I mean why else would you want to use C# when there's Rust 🦀 and all the awesome tooling and libraries around it...
  
  Rust really isn't all that. Plus C# is used for all kinds of corporate stuff where Rust levels of performance aren't needed. It's also used in several other game engines
  
  Yea, there are 50 game engines written in rust - or so I heard.

Wait what? What happens in jan 2024?
Edit: ah, unity's new install based pricing.
- Unity drama
  
  Rip

Hot take (maybe?) C# looks like a great language, better than Java. I wish I had an excuse to use it.
- Being a much better language than Java isn't exactly a high bar.
- I'm not the best judge, as I've not exactly explored a ton of languages, but I love C#.
- Tbh it's just microsoft java with worse support on GNU/Linux
  The only reason I used it were the unity libraries
  
  Tbh it’s just microsoft java
  Microsoft made so many javas (remember Visual J++ or J#?), C# is the only one that survived. Well, Microsoft now also ships OpenJDK, apparently.
  
  If this were ten years ago, sure.
  
  There's many reasons to dislike C#, but this is just plain wrong
  
  Use it on Linux daily, no issues here.
  
  Java feels archaic compared to C#. I am not sure what problems you're having on Linux? This sounds like a very outdated take tbh.
  
  Definitely not the case. I’ve been doing C# for over 20 years. For the last 6 years I’ve used it to write Linux services exclusively.
  The “Java” relation was true 20 years ago, and the “Linux” argument was true 7 years ago. But neither hold any water anymore. It’s a great language and framework to write a wide variety of software with.

Because ASP.NET isn't a thing at all...

no love for godot?
- I hear Godot's own scripting language is preferable to C# if you're willing to learn it.
  
  C# is technically faster, but according to one of the cassette beasts' co-directors, you can maximize productivity and performance by doing most stuff in gdscript and skipping directly to c++ for the bottlenecks.
- we could hang ourselves instead... we'd get an erection.

Fun meme but corporate job listings in my town contradict the premise.
Let them C# I'm sticking to C++ and Python.

Rooting for Bevy so much rn
- Yeah me too, but I think it's not there yet, when you think out of a less programmer focused perspective, as most of the stuff in games is of artistic nature (which takes time to make, even with all the AI stuff) and otherwise simple game logic for most of these indie games. So something like an interactive GUI editor to "debug" is a must have for artists.
  
  There's still Fyrox too. But for those used to Unity's ECS it's OOP style might be deterring.
- Sadly don't think Bevy's going to benefit too much from this drama. Most people from Unity will want a more complete toolset and probably won't be wanting to learn a whole new language. Can see a lot of indie devs making the switch over to Godot though

Is it pissible for programmers to encounter a silly little meme without taking it serious and going into a frenzy explaining that actually its premise is wrong
- No, it would be pretty painful to piss something like that.
  
  Maybe you just need to drink more cranberry juice...
- I immediately angrility opened the comments to respond. I think it's just a side effect of working in this field. I have to be completely literal to the computer so in communication I prefer the same style. I will argue with people on the use of ambiguous language. More so if they are analysts. I can understand the business doesn't always fully grasp the concept but if you give me a functional analysis it best be 100% clear. And yes, I've been tested for autism, it certainly flagged up as a possible trait, but it's hard to know if this hasn't just become an ingrained preference. Sure does help me when communicating with neurodivergent people, and I've heard from several neurotypical people as well that they actually appreciate the clarity!
- I didn't even understand the meme until I saw the comments. It's not funny if it's nonsensical