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  • For those of us who live in the land of Google Pixel products or even the higher-end Samsung Galaxy gadgets, let me illuminate you on what these low-end Galaxy A-this-and-that models are all about:

    They are, to use the technical term, steaming hot piles of garbage — truly terrible all-around user experiences with bloated software, subpar performance, and virtually no ongoing software support.

    And when the vast majority of people in the world are associating Android with those types of devices, combined with Apple's artfully forced perception of Android being the lesser platform that can't keep up with its magical messaging standards, it's no wonder folks think Android is awful. Honestly, can you blame 'em?!

    The irony of talking about Apple snobbery, when high-end android snobbery is just as bad. You see it all the time around /r/android.

    You know why those phones are "popular"? They're affordable and do what those people need them to do. I know it's hard to understand but not every person that buys a phone is an enthusiast. They don't care about any of this, they just want something that works.

    The central thesis of this article almost comes off as blaming android's perception on poor people or people that don't use Pixels. In fact that's almost explicit:

    With no disrespect to anyone who genuinely enjoys Samsung's approach to Android, I've heard from countless people who have made the switch from a Galaxy phone to a Pixel over the years, and virtually every single one of 'em has sung the same tune: "Wow! I had no idea Android could be this good. I had no idea what I was missing."

    That's the Android experience Google needs ordinary tech-totin' people be aware of. But when the term "Android" is associated with so much bottom-of-the-barrel, godawful garbage, it's damn-near impossible to break free from that and create a positive perception.

    If he's actually heard from "countless" people that "I had no idea Android could be this good" after using a Pixel, I'll eat this Motorola phone im holding.

    You know what the actual beauty of Android is? Choice. The worst thing that could happen is every Android user just starts using Pixel.

    • I used high end android for a long time. The note series, mainly. When I had to step away from that, I switched to LG. I fucking loved LG. They were awesome. Half the price, and damn good.

      Since they've stopped, I've had the pixel 6, and an A53. The pixel 6 was glitchy AF, and Google won't allow HDMI over USB, which is a major use case for me, and the A53 just sort of sucks.

      I miss high end android. :( but I won't switch to iOS. I hate how locked down it is, and I've never liked the feel of the OS. I'm considering the pixel again, but no HDMI is really fucking with me. :(

    • I think it wasn't about low end phones in themselves. The Moto G series is an example of a cheap phone that doesn't include a lot of bloat. Really it would be easy for cheap phones to just leave the OS alone, keep it open so that users could update it if they wanted. That's what the Nexus program did as well. But they don't sell nearly as well as the base Samsungs. Samsung has more marketing and carrier relationships to fall back on, but that means more corporate shenanigans adding unnecessary nonsense to the OS like Facebook installed by default and non-removable, etc. And no updates, plus no way for advanced users to install updates

  • I hear what they are saying and it definitely has merit. Because the iPhone is so expensive and has a strong brand, and because they love to say "the best iPhone yet" all the time, people get conditioned to believe that the iPhone is better.

    Normally in life the better products are the more expensive products. Having said that, from my observation regular people don't really put lot of thought into phones.

    As long as it works and let's them so what they need they are happy. In talking mostly people of 40+ years old. Only techy people like us watch GSMArena videos, compare specs, watch keynotes etc.

    It's gen Z that seems to be a little more aware of brand, status and care about being in the iMessage group.

    But even that seems to be US only. Here in Europe everyone I know except for 1 couple, have Android phones and when they upgrade they choose Android on purpose. Because we use WhatsApp and Viber, we don't have the iMessage issue, yet.

    It will probably change because Apple has been working with mobile carriers to push the iPhone at incredibly low monthly prices. And sadly it's working because I'm seeing more iPhones around, especially amongst those who care about status, be it because they are rich or because they are businessmen and want to convey they are upper class.

    I imagine their children will also grow up with iPhone but I think it will take 1 generation before Apple has a decent market share.

    But then again, this is an island, people don't have a lot of money, so that might keep things in Android's favour for longer.

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