An "airport neighbourhood" where people can store their planes in their yard and taxi directly to the runway
An "airport neighbourhood" where people can store their planes in their yard and taxi directly to the runway
An "airport neighbourhood" where people can store their planes in their yard and taxi directly to the runway
/c/fuckcars : "use some other form of transportation!"
Also /c/fuckcars: "No! Not like that!"
You won't commute with a plane like this lol.
Unless you live in an extremely remote place not served by roads. The arctic for example. It's not technically commuting as in going to and from your 9 to 5, but plenty of small northern communities are still completely dependent on small gravel runways or even bushplanes for things like going to the doctor or dentist, or really anything they need to go to a city for, which is a lot of things.
I actually thought this was a similar situation, that they're so out in the middle of nowhere flying is significantly more convenient than driving. But then I took a look at the map and realized that they're not far from Chicago and are within easy driving distance from nearby smaller towns, which makes this way harder to justify though still mildly interesting.
Apparently the CEO of Boeing does
Why not? Less risk of being hit by a plane if they're in the sky and requirements for a pilot license are much stricter. In a plane crash occupants are more likely to die than innocent bystanders, compared to cars that are designed for safety only for those on the inside.
Why not? Probably because:
Bike pollution: .
Car pollution: oooooooooo
Plane pollution: OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO
(bike pollution is slightly more than nil just because of the CO2 we breathe out while riding)
I dunno, I was supposed to get 100hrs of driving experience in order to get my license. Meanwhile the minimum required for a PPL is 40, and only 20 of that is required to be with an instructor. You can get away with fewer if you are just getting a Light Sport license, and an Ultralight requires no license at all (seriously though, get training).
more stricter
Must be lovely to hear your neighbor fire up their Cessna at 7 in the morning for their morning commute.
Enjoy being stuck behind the asshole in a C130 with trucknutz.
Would be super impressed if a C130 didn't end up in the cornfield on t/o
Thank you, this gave me a good chuckle.
I've lived under a flight path, ~9km/6miles from the airport - while I understand the difference between a 787 and a Cessna 172, I've got no earthly idea why anyone would choose to have a runway in their front yard.
Because us plane people have a crippling addiction...
For the people living there I am sure that's a feature, not a bug.
I lived adjacent to a neighborhood like this. It was much quieter than middle aged neighbors with Harley’s. Little Cessnas and Pipers are not that loud.
I imagine the people living there probably don't need to commute at all anymore, or if they do, it's definitely not at 7 in the morning.
I live basically across the street from an Air Force base so I get turboprops over the house at 1,000 feet starting at about 7:00 5-6 days a week. Doesn't bother me or my wife, we just like planes.
I love planes, but I wouldn't want to live next to a fighter base. Cargo planes are super cool though
You won't commute like this lol
Little known fact. Airplanes still use leaded fuel. I’ll bet that the blood levels for all of these families are elevated. Not a great place to raise a kid.
Clarification: Only piston aircraft require leaded fuel. Which is unfortunately a pretty big part of the general aviation market, but similarly sized turboprops do also exist (though are more expensive) and it doesn't apply to modern commercial aviation at all.
Further clarification: Only gasoline powered aircraft without the Auto Fuel STC require leaded fuel.
Although, there is an initiative underway to fully phase out leaded avgas. G100UL is the FAA approved formulation. Exciting time and long overdue.
There is an increasing number of piston aircraft that have Diesel engines, and run on jet fuel.
Yep, and the FAA is taking it's sweet time to approve a new unleaded fuel for general aviation that shows a lot of promise called G100UL. It's estimated it could take another 6-9 years. Otherwise it's currently only approved for specific planes and not available at most airports and aerodromes.
It's approved as of last fall, but the FAA spent well over a decade stonewalling it with unnecessary bureaucracy.
Now we're left with the chicken-and-egg problem of the market, where nobody will offer unleaded because it's more expensive, but it's expensive because it's not widely used. The feds should subsidize it down to $4/gal for 5 years to get it off the ground.
Disgusting.
This is like looking at a yet to be made Tom Scott video.
He already did make a video on it lol
Tom scott has made a video on everything, including this very thread.
Are you sure? I've seen a video about this community, but I don't think it was Tom Scott. Couldn't find it on his channel.
Pls link
http://www.casadeaero.net/text/about.php
Many pilots do this as a means of reducing the costs associated with operating out of areas with high hangar and service costs. This is Northwest of Chicago near Rockford. The about page explains a lot of the obvious questions.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
lmao wow, how fascinating. when you think you saw it all..
This exists?! Oh my That's not just mildly, it's really interesting!
They are somewhat common-ish if you know where to look. I fly by one a lot!
Indeed, one of our regional airports has housing with taxi ways to the runway as well. Instead of garages for cars they have hangers for the planes and cars.
But I don't see any planes or hangars there or in OPs image?
I see!
These exist all across the country! Here's a fun fact, the street signs are all 2 feet tall in these neighborhoods so that even low-wing airplanes can make turns around corners that have signs without risk of completely destroying their plane.
Oooh, cool!
This is an exclusive neighborhood where only environmentalist TikTok influencers live /s
Lol
There are thousands of them.
Yup, John Travolta had and maybe still has a house like this to park his Boeing 707.
"honey, Joe's wife is sick, can you take care of control tower duty today?"
These little strips don't use a tower. Pilots communicate with each other on unicom.
unicom
First thing I thought of reading on this tiny screen: 🦄
We need a community for keming.
A private (meaning, non-public) field like this one probably uses the multicom frequency, but yes. Self-announce on the CTAF. Irks me a bit there aren't runway numbers.
Tower duty? Where we are going, we don't need towers.
The smell and noise would be unbearable.
It's obviously for plane nerds that won't mind.
Depends, looks like small planes, and even if 10 come and go everyday you would quickly stop hearing them at all (the brain is very good at ignoring useless stimuli)
Studies to highway and airport neighbourhoods say otherwise.
Works for my manager too
See, there are some weird types like me who actually like the smell of 100LL, and don't mind plane noise. I'd live there. But yeah, it's definitely not for everyone.
You might mind the health effects of breathing so much of it in on a regular basis
Small airports like these really don't smell like much. Sure: the fueling area, hangers, and maintenance shops have a smell, but it's non existent as soon as you're 50 feet away from them.
What is fucked up is how much leaded fuel gets dumped on the ground. Part of the pre-flight check for planes is taking a sample of gas from the lowest point in the tanks (the "sump") to make sure there's no water in it. It's usually done with a tool like this one. A lot of pilots just toss the fuel sample on the ground rather than "dispose" of it properly.
And they can't even afford an HOA to water the grass by the runway.
It grows on kerosene.
It has what plants need
I want to see a train-based one of these
Everyone parks their personal train in their yard?
Yeah, or at least train cars, with a way to get it onto the network for vacations and such. (Vacationing in a personal train car sounds fun)
Railroad suburbs exist! Streetcar suburbs as well. Was actually the norm outside of the city core until they started ripping up all the rail lines to build highways.
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That's a lot leaded fuel to be inhaling everyday.
Just don't go outside eZ
I have a friend who lives in one of these neighborhoods but right in the middle of a city. Blows my mind that it was there the whole time and I just never noticed until I went to his house.
What do they do as a job?
this is quite interesting. but also these fuckers are pretentious
There are a bunch of these around. In my old city we had two nearby. One was nice kind of like this, one was just a grass field out by cornfields.
Where the hell am I supposed to put my boat?
At your summer house
Or better still, skip the airpark and get a lake front property with a seaplane and a boat.
Half a million per house isn't really that bad considering it's on an airport and you get a hangar
Yeah, but there's an HOA. :/
Well for the airport cost, right?
Here's a nice big one just south of Daytona Beach
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0625058,-81.0461691,1579a,35y,359.1h,44.09t/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Here's one I was thinking of near Ocala, FL, I believe John Travolta has/had a place there:
29.2747779, -82.1204260
And another one in Yucca Valley, CA:
34.1289163, -116.4077455
Whoa. That area has things that look like roads, but are extended taxiways from the homes to the runway. For the early-alphabet taxiways there's a clear distinction between the public roads and the taxiways. The roads end in dead-ends before the runways, and the taxiways end in dead-ends before the roads.
But, when you get to taxiway echo, it actually crosses Spruce Creek Blvd. So, you could be slowing down to a stop sign, only to see a plane taxi across the road in front of you. I wonder how often cars end up on that taxiway by accident.
Oh and you guys don't have planes.
Why doesn't that runway have, like, lights and stuff. Or an ILS.
Those go against HOA rules.
Imagine showing up to an HOA meeting with a presentation on why we need to spend ten million dollars on a localizer and glideslope array so Larry wouldn't have to divert to O'Hare when it's foggy again.
Because this is a small general aviation field. This is for doctors flying their Cirrus SR22 in and out of. You might be surprised how many airfields are probably around you and how many of those are just a strip of grass with some hangers off to the side.
I can't imagine this being used for anything other than daylight VFR flying, which doesn't need radio guidance or even guidance in general beyond the airstrip itself. It's also possible that there are lights, and they're just too small to see when not lit.
Aren't there usually strips of lights on the approach before the runway itself? At least for normal commercial airports they are present.
It’s not necessarily required. All landings are visual maneuvers anyway; lights just help you see in non-ideal weather conditions
Dont need an ILS to land every time. Hell you dont even need a landing light legally for non commercial flights
Hoskins Field in Washington is like this, but more trees and turf.
We actually have one of these in Dayton, Nevada. Half hour away from Carson City, hour from Reno, not much to speak of at all in the town really (other than some historical interests) but there's an entire subdivision with a golf course and a small airfield and "hangar homes".
I guess it works as a pilot neighborhood but Rich people would never want to live in such an obvious place. Makes them too easy to eat.
We will eat them first.
These people are rich, but they're not the wealthy. These are your doctor types, not your billionaires. Doctors are paid well for sure, but they should be paid well.
A lot of people hear or read "plane" and assume like a million dollars. You can quite literally buy a single prop piston engine small plane for less than $100k USD. Yearly cost to maintain can be as little as a few thousand if flights hours are low.
Idk, I would not go with "I am a doctor so I deserve money with which I can live a live that seems so unhinged to the median income earner that I not only can allow to have a big car with which probably only one human at a time is driving, no, I also have a plane whith which probably only me is flaying at once and I have access to my own airfield". They would still be on my menu right after the billionaires
My wife's grandparents used to live in a sky park like that. Right before the birth of my second child I was laid off and my wife was doing her student teaching. Suddenly in a rough situation with no income. Her grandparents came to visit for Christmas and their way of commiserating with us was to say, "I know how it is; we just had to sell our second airplane..." No irony, not joking. They honestly felt that losing one of their airplanes was equitable to losing a job with 2 babies in the house. It's ok though, I came out on top. I have a job now and they're both dead.
Ya but how many airplanes do you have?
Not really the same "rich" that need to be eaten...
Oh, my bad. Nevermind ♡
Ofc it's in the Midwest