Convince me to use Firefox over Brave

For starters, Brave is still Chromium, which means when Manifest v3 drops, you can expect a lot of the adblocking extensions to stop working. Only the built-in adblockers will continue to work after Manifest v3 finishes rolling out (next month, supposedly).

You're still using a web browser that is allowing Google to dictate web standards, sadly.

I love Brave, with its built in adblockers PLUS the ability to install more on top of it, so you can turn one off and still have protection. It feels pretty streamlined.

Firefox isn't as streamlined, I agree. However, as stated above, you will likely lose access to any extension type adblockers and be left with only the built-in adblockers relatively soon. Firefox does not have this long-term problem because it has it's own rendering engine and its business model isn't based on advertising. Already adblockers on Chrome/Chromium/Brave that are extensions are able to do less to control ads than they are on Firefox, because Google's Manifest v3 is going to remove a lot of their ability to monitor the page they're on. Google claims its for "security" and it is: It's for Google's financial security.

As someone who pirates stuff pretty frequently too, all of its pop up blockers make me feel more safe.

I'm really not sure how this differs from Firefox which has had built-in pop-up blockers for a decade at least. You should be more worried about using a VPN if you're pirating, than about pop-ups. Also, it might behoove you to move towards invite-only torrent sites which you don't have to worry about pop-ups and viruses.

Should I make a switch to Firefox, and if so, why?

The main reasons why you should switch probably don't matter to you much, but here goes.

Google is dominating in the browser market, and ALL browsers except Firefox are now based on Chromium. Brave, Edge, Opera, and so on all use Google's Blink rendering engine from Chromium.

Google has a history of trying to ignore web standards and impose their own. Like trying to remove the https:// and the www to make it "cleaner" while actually obfuscating important information the end-user might want to see.

Google's main business is advertising, and anything that is going to get in their way of serving ads is going to be fought by them. Look at what is happening with YouTube, where they are going to block access to videos based on whether you're using an adblocker. If you don't think things like that are coming down the line for Chrome/Chromium, you're naive.

Google is realizing their search sucks now, that nobody trusts products they make because they kill their products so quickly and willingly, and that they're starting to hemorrhage money. They have to stave the bleeding, and that starts with fighting against adblockers, because once again their entire profitable business is ads.

If you care about open standards? Use Firefox. If you care about not seeing ads? Use Firefox.

Don't let Google dominate until they actually can start forcing the web to be how Google wants it to be: an ad infested shitfest.

Why do we need to convince you? Chrome is bad for privacy and Brave is lipstick on a pig. And lipstick that loves BAT and token crap. You can easily install an adblocker plus more on top of Firefox, so that isn’t really a big item for Brave.

But just do what you want.

Life is too short to convince. Use whatever you wish.

I had the same dilemma and I've made the switch for one particular reason - my eyes! Chromium font rendering adds some awful blur around each letter and this literally burns my eyes. There might be a way to turn the blur off... IDK.

That said, Brave is an awesome browser. From the Chromium world this is the only thing you can use with peace of mind. Don't feel guilty or ashamed, or whatever, if you stick with Brave.

It is inadvisable to use multiple blockers at the same time.

Also, what you are calling "streamlined" is what I call loss of user control. You no longer have control of your content blocker, Brave does. And they've shown they'll allow content through for those who are willing to pay them. Also, I don't know if they still do it, but I remember they used to inject their own advertisements on websites (I think it was opt-out though). Honestly, Brave has done a lot of sketchy untrustworthy crap over the years and it boggles my mind that they're still so trusted by supposedly privacy and security minded people.

Finally, as others have already said, their browser is based upon the Chromium codebase that is controlled by Google and will be affected by their Manifest V3 changes.

Why not try to convince yourself by actually trying it for a week. Do your own hands-on research, as you'll have a better appreciation of the browser. It's not as if your device is going to explode if you try something other than Brave.

Between Brave, Mullvad and Librewolf, you really can't go wrong. They all offer great privacy features and ship with adblockers out of the box (the latter 2 ship with uBlock). It's worth mentioning however that the chromium project is going to transition to MV3, which will cripple the functionality of a load of addons, including adblockers (although Brave's built in one will be unaffected).

As for Firefox, I recommend you steer away from it and choose one of the aforementioned forks of it instead because they will give you better results in terms of privacy. Alternatively, you could use the Arkenfox user.js, however it's no longer as well maintained due to being made redundant by the plethora of privacy browsers out there already.

I'm also going to go ahead and give an honourable mention to the firefox css community who have made some insanely impressive themes for Gecko based browsers. You can view some of them here: https://firefoxcss-store.github.io/ They're one of the main reasons I'm using a Gecko browser :)