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Lula says Putin will not be arrested at Brazil G20 meeting

www.aljazeera.com Lula says Putin will not be arrested at Brazil G20 meeting

Brazilian president says Russian leader will be invited to the G20 meeting in Rio de Janeiro next year.

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has said that Russian leader Vladimir Putin will not be arrested in Brazil if he attends the Group of 20 meeting in Rio de Janeiro next year.

Lula, speaking to the Firstpost news show at the sidelines of the G20 meeting in Delhi on Saturday, said Putin would be invited to next year’s event.

He added that he himself planned to attend a BRICS bloc of developing nations meeting due in Russia before the Rio meeting.

“I believe that Putin can go easily to Brazil,” Lula said. “What I can say to you is that if I’m president of Brazil, and he comes to Brazil, there’s no way he will be arrested.”

The statement comes after the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued an arrest warrant against Putin in March, accusing him of the war crime of illegally deporting hundreds of children from Ukraine.

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"I lied" Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, 2024.
- Would actually be a chad move
- "I actually used a very secret technique there called lying"

I don't think any sane country would arrest Putin. Deny him entry sure. But not arrest him. Declaring war on Russia, even if they are a paper tiger today, is not going to be in anybody's best interest
Exceptions for Ukraine and Poland. They would absolutely arrest Putin on sight.
- Why should any NATO country (beside maybe Turkey) not immediately arrest him?
  
  NATO is not at war with Russia.
  
  World war 3 is going to be a total downer for everyone, most countries will want to avoid it, or at least try not to be the one to start it.
  Not to mention the president of a country travels as a diplomat. Arresting diplomats is something that's frowned upon internationally.
  Arresting the president of a country, or kidnapping the president of a country, is a pretty clear declaration of war.
  Let's say by some miracle war doesn't immediately break out, well the country you've just pissed off has a bunch of hostages immediately available, all of your diplomats and citizens in their borders. As much as we want to talk about rule of law, at the international level between countries it's all about capabilities.
  
  I think it's not necessarily whether countries would or wouldn't arrest him. It's more, if he's invited to a summit or otherwise making travel arraignments, he gets confirmation they don't intend to arrest him. If a country doesn't commit to not arresting him, he just wouldn't go. If a country says they won't arrest him, then arrest him, it calls into question that country's diplomacy.
  
  I am fully pro ukraine.
  Because if they arrest him, there could easily be bloodshed outside of Ukraine. As much as nato countries are happy to support Ukraine currently, they aren't interested in inviting conflict to their own borders
  
  As a Brazillian, I think it would probably be good if we were at NATO, but we're not.
- At this point Ukraine might even himars him on sight
  
  Maybe it's like Hitler and they don't want Putin being replaced by someone competent at war.
  "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".
- Yeah. Putin would absolutely have diplomatic immunity as a head of state visiting another country. Arresting him would put the whole concept of diplomatic immunity at risk.
  
  That's for domestic crimes. International crimes like genocide, torture and other war crimes have no functional immunity for a head of state. Pinochet for example.
  That's why Putin didn't go to South Africa.

It would be a shame if putin's plane had to make an unscheduled landing on the way there.
- Or if it had a Rapid Unplanned Disassembly event, midair, over the ocean
  
  That works too, although I'd prefer to see him rot in jail. Sudden death is too quick and easy for people who have done what he has.
  
  "We can't just arrest him. That would be RUDE."
- "It's not an unscheduled landing, it's a special controlled fast emergency touch-down operation."

I'll put $20 in him sending a body double.
- Maybe Putin is already dead/missing and all the body doubles are just trying to act like him until something is resolved
  
  Basically Weekend at Putin's
  
  Zombie Putin?

If Im president of Brazil.
I see the loophole here...
- That's a window

I thought Brazil was a member of the ICC in just the way SA was
- International law is fairly optional. Will there be consequences if he doesn’t have Putin arrested? I doubt it.
  Also, the South African president tried to make the same statement that he wouldn’t be arrested, but the local government said they would do it, so he was forced to uninvite Putin.
  It will be interesting to see if a similar dynamic unfolds, but I think the internal politics of Brazil are rather different.
  
  Brazil has a far stronger federal element to it right? Like the US
- They are, but the country also depends a bit on Russia's exports so the president tends to tip the scales in Putin's side

They best have good security, one random with a gun would be hailed as a hero by the western world if they took out Putin.

Que raro! El socialismo latino...

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