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The holy trinity of DS9

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Time travel episodes as honorable mention.
- The Bell Riots episodes feel very prophetic
  
  For very “The Visitor,” you also get a “Trials and Tribbilations.”
- Honestly, I would put those above mirror universe episodes any day of the week.
  Hot Take: the only truly good mirror universe episode was Mirror, Mirror.
  
  I stand with you on this one.
- The time loop variety are my favourite. The one from TNG where the enterprise keeps getting blown up is great. I also love the Discovery episode. It was like fighting an evil groundhogs day guy.

I like how they make someone dress sexy whenever they want to show that they're evil.
- Sexy and lesbian. "gay coded villains" are a whole thing.
- Mirror Kira was very evil

Fucking love Vic Fontaine
- Oh man, they’re episodes I’ll pick out to watch specifically and individually.
- I generally like him, but mirror universe Vic Fontaine was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen.
  
  Oh, 100%

Tbh i hate the mirror universe now... from being a not-so-serious in-joke that came back every now and then, not as much as nudging the timeline, plot or characters into any too serious a direction, to becoming an important part of cannon that I just don't like... mostly because of Discovery and Picard.
It's really just too cheesy. Alternative universes, by all means, but just a mirror universe where there's a bit of a role reversal which stems from can only be described as "a trend in the 70s".
Mirror this, bizarro that, cod sarn it. To call it a gimmick is a bit of an understatement. To call it cannon is a bit embarrassing.
Now excuse me, I've ranted about Star Trek on the interwebz, so now I have to go fulfill the government mandated 3 hours of grass touching.
- Would you touch some for me too? I don't want to pause my stream.
- I thought the Picard one was a different evil timeline and not the mirror one?
  
  Correct, it’s the confederacy instead of federation or terran empire.
- I like that particular cheese, but I couldn't agree more that making it canon or blowing it into something more than a fun time you bust out once in a while to let your actors have a bit of fun playing a bad guy is kinda lame.

I might be in the minority,, but I hated the mirror universe episodes. Every single one of them felt like consequence free filler with bad low stakes plot points. I mean, yeah people died, but not the characters I actually cared about.
- Mirror universe, time travel and holodeck episodes, the holy trinity of filler episodes in Star Trek.
- I can count on one hand the number of mirror universe episodes I've enjoyed in trek. But I don't even need that one hand to count the mirror episodes I liked in DS9...

DS9 mirror universe episodes were just the writers being down bad. But I'm here for it.
- I wonder if it's awkward to write stuff like that once you know the cast.
  
  Awkwardness is probably a variable that is greatly diminished by the writers own horny-on-main.

Someone's been watching season 4 😂

I’m mostly just against the holodeck episodes. Every time my wif watched ds9 with me, it ended up being a holodeck episode. She doesn’t like Star Trek.
- I'm trying not to be offended here, but it's hard.

Ferengi: cool
All others: aw hell naw!
- But... holodeck episodes!
  
  Who the hell was responsible for the shoddy lumps of code they call safety protocols? And how the fuck can they "fail"? Any halfway responsible programming would assume the default to be safety on hard coded. So if those protocols were to "fail" they wouldengage safety!
- The mirror universe episodes were alright at first but they got old really quick.
  
  Yep.

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