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New Mexico governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque

apnews.com New Mexico governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has issued an emergency public health order temporarily suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque and surrounding Bernalillo County.

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New Mexico governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque

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If you asked me what, say, the 20 most dangerous cities in America were, Albuquerque would not even be on my radar. But apparently it should be.
- You obviously haven't seen Breaking Bad...
  
  I mean, I don't base my impression of a real city from its fictional version or I'd have never set one foot in Baltimore due to The Wire.
- My first day visiting Albuquerque, I was in pizza parlor picking up an order, and the news was on a TV nearby. They were covering the arrest of this cracked out looking couple. The lady behind the counter then explained to me that it was a big local story because those two had tortured and murdered their daughter. Its also the cartheftt capital.
  I haven't been back.
- It's the great drug corridor and it's got lots and lots of surrounding desert to disappear people, but I live in New Mexico and I go to ABQ a lot and never felt in danger. There are areas I definitely wouldn't go but that's just like any city
- It's kinda taken a wrong turn.

Struck down as unconstitutional in 3... 2... 1...
- Politicians like them know what they're doing is unlawful, but they also know that it takes time for courts to strike them down.
  Until there's actual punishment for issuing blatantly illegal orders or laws (gun related or not) this will continue happening.
- Which is kind of nuts because some states did not allow open or concealed carry when the country was founded.

All this is going to do is waste money on lawsuits that could be used to benefit the people.
When in reality this won't do anything to slow down crime in Albuquerque. The most murders done in Albuquerque is by the police. Targeting legal gun owners won't stop criminals from carrying firearms. Weaponizing the health system to deny constitutional rights really worked out well in the past.
I'm so glad I moved in 2020 from a city/county that is fine with police burning kids alive in their homes because they think a criminal is inside.
- Targeting legal gun owners won’t stop criminals from carrying firearms.
  I hate this talking point. You could say that about practically any law. "Targeting legal car owners won't stop criminals from drunk driving" or even "targeting factories won't stop some of them from criminally polluting." That's not the point. The point is to add charges once they're caught to maximize their sentence.
  
  It's already illegal to carry a firearm and commit a crime...you wanting to make it double illegal? No this talking point is exactly that, a spot on assessment that laws like this only attack the law abiding gun owners. That's exactly what they're designed for, to create more criminals.
  
  But the additional laws take away rights from the law abiding only. The simple solution is to enforce the laws already on the books to the full extent.
  These laws only harm the lawful exercising their constitutional rights! Prosecutors will add these on but not to maximize a sentence rather to make it easier to get the bad guy to plead at the cost of not filing on some of the additional charges. Just fully enforce the laws on the books already.
- I agree with you, but for different reasons. I also think it's an overreach to target everyone carrying guns, whether they are legal or not.
  It's the legal equivalent of calling "Time Out". But it has to be enforceable, and I don't see how this can possibly be enforceable, even if the local authorities wanted to enforce it. People who want to do dumb things with their firearms aren't going to be deterred by this temporary measure. So it can only be enforced after someone does something irresponsible, and won't do anything at all to prevent things and solve the problem the Governor is trying to solve. But you can be sure that the "Demoncrats want to take away your guns!!!!" crowd will be citing this for the next 20 years. I bet they can use the Governor's statements on this directly in campaign ads, just like the Biden campaign did with that MTG speech.
  The only saving grace here is that this emergency measure is temporary, but we've seen this movie before....
- Targeting legal gun owners won’t stop criminals from carrying firearms.
  Please compare the percentage of crimes commited with a firearm versus all crimes commited for the US and countries that have functioning laws limiting private gun ownership. In Germany (population about 80.000.000) in 2022 there were about 200,000 "crimes against personal freedoms" (this number is probably too low because I only added the numbers for the two main types of these crimes). In about 4500 cases (of all crimes) a gun was used to threaten somebody and in about 4000 cases (of all crimes) a shot was fired. So in the overwhelming majority of violent crimes (about 96%) no guns were used.

Oh this is going to go well.

I foresee the number of guns in Albuquerque to increase

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- Had my tray table up, and .y seat back in the full upright position!

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