Nancy Pelosi: Democrat and ex-Speaker, 83, to seek re-election
Nancy Pelosi: Democrat and ex-Speaker, 83, to seek re-election
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Nancy Pelosi: Democrat and ex-Speaker, 83, to seek re-election
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No.
No, no, no, no, no!
Is she looking at Feinstein and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I should still be able to run the country!”
I don’t care on which side of the aisle these oldies sit. They do not represent the will of a people who are largely younger than they are by two decades.
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Younger by two decades is still mid 60s/retirement age
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The average age of constituents in her district is 40. I cant figure out how she keeps getting elected, unless she's just never had a peimary challenger worth a damn.
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She predates the baby boomers. She was in diapers when pearl harbor was bombed. Two decades younger should be the mandatory retirement age for politicians.
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Hi, dem here. WE DONT WANT FUCKING ELDRITCH GODS REPRESENTING US anymore. Term limits. Term limits. Term limits.
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She is widely credited with marshalling the passage of former President Barack Obama's signature healthcare legislation, as well as bills to address infrastructure and climate change under incumbent President Joe Biden.
Her big claim to fame...
Getting republicans to vote for a more conservative healthcare plan than what the Republican candidate for president wanted to pass if he had won.
It's fucking disgusting moderates still act like that was the finish line over a decade later and oppose any more improvement to it, while demanding we call them progressive for it.
Although, once you're in your 70s, a decade probably feels like two weeks. Time flies when age related mental decline stops you from noticing the passage of time.
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Hey, they had to get rid of the public option part and gut the bill to get some republican support! Ignore the fact that it was still passed entirely from a down party lines vote with zero republican support. They had to make it a shitty gutted bill for some reason. It was such an accomplishment forcing everyone to get healthcare from multi billion dollar companies with fat profit margins.
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Getting republicans to vote for
No Republicans voted for it.
In fact, she had to work to get Democrats to vote for it. It passed the House 219-212, with 34 Democrats and all the Republicans voting No.
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That was the joke...
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- TESTIFY!
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I respect older people, but at this age you really have no business being in high levels of government. Go retire and enjoy your life. If you want to, be an advisor to more junior members of congress. This wraithing is absurd.
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Its a shame more people, especially younger people in the US, aren't more into things like primaries and other voting besides presidential elections. Makes me wonder who would break through future elections and who they would appoint as a result.
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because the system is designed to check against this! we cannot realistically outvote the cartoonishly dumb and convoluted primary system or the electoral college. after bernie got fucked over twice, how can anyone even have hope anymore? no one more progressive that pete fucking buttigeg is getting anywhere
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I'm in her district. This has given me a possibly-crazy idea. What if I registered to run against her? Hear me out.
I don't think that I could win. She's been in the game for so long, I have no illusions. But, registering and announcing a campaign to challenge her might result in some national publication contacting me for a quote. I might be able to get a line in said publication and get people talking about it.
"Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table."
I'd appreciate feedback on the value of doing something like this. Also, the likelihood that it would have the desired outcome. Also, thoughts on how this might be done.
I've been kicking this idea around since this morning when I first saw this. I'm increasingly thinking that it sounds like a good idea. Thoughts?
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I think the local DNC would have to "allow" it. Otherwise you'd run as something-other-than-Democratic.
But all it would cost you is time, and maybe a small filling fee to find out.
I say, go for it! It would at least shake up the geriatric incumbents a bit.
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Do it! As one of the most notable Democrats alive it'd be a near impossible task to unseat her, but maybe you get 20% of the vote and that's not a terrible result. After that maybe someone more notable like a Mayor or state rep would run and maybe win. Shoot your shot!
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We need a competitor. Please do it.
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have you heard of Shahid Buttar
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Apparently, I had. The first two links on a search had already been visited. That's discouraging. Thanks!
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He had a good platform too; a true leftist planning for the future of AI, UBI, etc. She just straight out refused to debate him. Then she ran a smear PR campaign on him just to be sure
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Running in such a prominent campaign would probably make your life suck. Pelosi's seasoned team would probably go through your entire life with a fine-toothed comb and spin anything remotely negative about you to make it seem like you were a serial killer. The Republicans, meanwhile, might throw money into supporting you without caring if you wanted their "help" just to make Pelosi's life hell.
There are probably already real challengers who actually want the job who you could support instead. If you donated to them and volunteered for them, they might make enough noise to at least get some headlines. And, you wouldn't have to stick your own neck out.
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"Nancy Pelosi should get out of the way of younger generations and let those who came after her have a seat at the table."
Don't stop with her. Make your platform about Glitch McConnell, Dianne "The Wraith" Feinstein, Chuck "Touch" Grassley, and every other member of Congress who can't even claim to be a boomer because they were born before the end of WW2. Their generation built the America we have now; how's it working out for y'all?
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Do it!
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Here's what you do, announce that you're running, say your peace, and when you're surfing that publicity wave, announce that you're running for governor of California. No flaw!
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I wish you would. Get your friends to do it too... "Nancy Pelosi Faces a Dozen Primary Challengers" might draw some more attention.
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We need to put an age limit on political offices
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I think we should also include term limits for these offices in addition to the age limit.
You can’t be president for more than 8 years, but you can be in the same political office more or less for almost 40? That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me lol.
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Can't we just vote for younger candidates?
Doesn't make sense to subvert the will of the people when they clearly support this.
Also, her age isn't what makes her shit. She's a corporate democrat just looking out for different rich people.
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The problem is that this isn’t the will of the people. Preliminaries don’t count as an election so your vote for which candidate that appears on the actual ballot is just a suggestion.
The party committees gets final say on who’s on the ballot for that party to vote for.
Which leads to the problem of the 2 party system where we vote for the least worst candidate
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Can we not be ruled by geriatrics anymore?
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Geriatocracy
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I’m angry at her, but more angry at the voters that reelect her. Get new blood into these positions.
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Fuck this horrible removed. She fucking enriches herself via a marriage of her position and decision making with the stock market.
Fucking disgusting, no fucking politician that votes on policy should be allowed to trade stocks.
GET THE FUCK OUT AND STAY OUT YOU GERIATRIC FUCKING CORRUPT TRAITOR
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Settle down, trumper.
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I'm a lifelong dem and I generally agree with the sentiment, minis the name-calling on his part. Her shady stock market trades are problematic at best, and we need young blood in the game. I'm hoping for a strong contender against her and I think many folks feel the same.
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The fucked up thing is that people are still gonna vote for her. No one cares about corruption or acrually having good political leaders, they just need their team to win like it's some kind of stupid sport.
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Blues and Greens...just like the Byzantines
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Or they know how important it is that the Republicans not win.
It's not just about keeping score and keeping points for the red team. The blue team is currently fighting for white supremacy, christian supremacy, male supremacy, and to change the rules to make any other political party irrelevant.
If someone as wonderful as Mr. Rogers ran against Nancy Pelosi, but that person said he'd vote with his Republican colleagues on every important issue, his own personal qualities wouldn't matter. He personally might not lie, cheat or steal, but he'd be supporting a party that openly does all those things.
It sucks, but when it's a first-past-the-post system with 2 major parties, you mostly have to hold your nose and vote against the greater evil.
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Stocks aren't going to inside trade themselves! Get out of the way you old cunt. Hopefully someone primaries her and the people in SF vote her out. Still worse to have a Republican in the seat but jfc this is infuriating.
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There really needs to be age limits on government positions.
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We do have age limits, but only minimum age. Any time there's a min age, there needs to be a corresponding max age.
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But then again Bernie Sanders has done a lot to help "wake up" the minds of many millennials and zoomers.
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He's also too old imo
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And some psychiatric tests, to see if she still has all the necessary faculties for decisions. The cognitive decay is as sure as death and taxes
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TOO OLD
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She's not the worst, but as I was reading, I thought she was dead until I made it to "seeks re-election"...
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That’s what the plastics are for.. they never die…
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another canidate question what has your past politics done for me locally? even nationally? if the answer is unsure or maybe some tv propaganda answer that was fed to you then why do they deserve votes
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You don't think Pelosi has done anything to advance the Democratic agenda? I don't live in her district, so I'm not sure about locally, but I do think she's been highly influential nationally, and I personally think she has done a good job.
That being said, her district is safe Democratic even if she doesn't run. She should retire, enjoy the rest of her life with her family and leave feeling good about her accomplishments. It's someone else's job to carry on the work.
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We need to shut down this senior center. I'm tired of this. Let's get some fresh ideas in this place.
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Whatever happened to “just fuck off to your third home in the Hamptons and become a philanthropist” retirement path for these people?
She and her family rich af. Just pass the torch and support some other upstart. Fucking power hungry assholes.
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HEY REPUBLICANS:
I'm as left leaning as they come and this old removed should retire. This is one of the many many many differences between us. All you care about is winning, like this is some type of fucking football game, and I care about is what's best for our country.
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Apparently not in California, home to both Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein.
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muther fucker, get these old farts outta here.
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Ugh get these dinosaurs out of office. I do not feel represented by someone who is a millionaire and over twice my age, they have no understanding of what my life is like or what I need.
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We seriously need age limits for elected officials, it's absolutely absurd to have an octogenarian in a position of authority like that.
While we're at it, term limits for congress would be nice - 19 terms is absolutely ridiculous.
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Didn't Ruth teach these geriatric roadblocks anything?!?
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maybe US voters who should take more than colors and letters into consideration such as job resume over the years, what are they financially invested in, past examples of experience, et cetera
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Someone fucking primary her ass
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Her district is jam packed full of the most elite liberals in the country. They love her. She's one of them. Realistically, the only one who'd replace her would be a carbon copy of her.
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Holy crap when I saw the headline at first I thought it was an obit
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If she pulls a McConnell I’m claiming copyright on “Nance in a Trance.”
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With ants in her pants
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Oh fuck off with the dinosaurs
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Wonder how her husbands portfolio has been doing since she left.
Any significant gains? Does he really have that midas touch without her fortunate position.
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Lol the hammer attack would have been a great exit strategy. Oh well would you look at that, ever since my husband got his head beat in with a hammer he just can't seem to pick stocks as well.
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I think it got hammered lately. Too soon?
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Well, if you want her to stop being in Congress, you know what to do in the primaries.
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I'd vote against Pelosi in the primaries for the same reason I'd vote against Biden or Trump or McConnell or Feinstein in the primaries. They're all too fucking old. The average age of the Senate is 64 years. The average age of the House of Representatives is 57 years.
Here's every senator or congressperson age 68 or older.
State Senator Age Birthdate Party Iowa Charles E. Grassley 89 9/17/33 R California Dianne Feinstein 89 6/22/33 D Vermont Bernie Sanders 81 9/8/41 I Kentucky Mitch McConnell 80 2/20/42 R Maryland Benjamin L. Cardin 79 10/5/43 D Idaho Jim Risch 79 5/3/43 R Illinois Richard J. Durbin 78 11/21/44 D Maine Angus King 78 3/31/44 I Massachusetts Edward J. Markey 76 7/11/46 D Connecticut Richard Blumenthal 76 2/13/46 D Utah Mitt Romney 75 3/12/47 R Vermont Peter Welch 75 5/2/47 D Hawaii Mazie K. Hirono 75 11/3/47 D West Virginia Joe Manchin III 75 8/24/47 D New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen 75 1/28/47 D Delaware Thomas R. Carper 75 1/23/47 D Rhode Island Jack Reed 73 11/12/49 D Oregon Ron Wyden 73 5/3/49 D Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren 73 6/22/49 D Arkansas John Boozman 72 12/10/50 R Michigan Debbie Stabenow 72 4/29/50 D New York Charles E. Schumer 72 11/23/50 D Washington Patty Murray 72 10/11/50 D Mississippi Roger Wicker 71 7/5/51 R Idaho Michael D. Crapo 71 5/20/51 R Louisiana John Kennedy 71 11/21/51 R Nebraska Deb Fischer 71 3/1/51 R Colorado John Hickenlooper 70 2/7/52 D Florida Rick Scott 70 12/1/52 R Texas John Cornyn 70 2/2/52 R Wyoming John Barrasso 70 7/21/52 R Maine Susan Collins 70 12/7/52 R Ohio Sherrod Brown 70 11/9/52 D Tennessee Marsha Blackburn 70 6/6/52 R West Virginia Shelley Moore Capito 69 11/26/53 R New Jersey Bob Menendez 69 1/1/54 D Virginia Mark Warner 68 12/15/54 D Alabama Tommy Tuberville 68 9/18/54 R Kansas Jerry Moran 68 5/29/54 R Indiana Mike Braun 68 3/24/54 R South Dakota Mike Rounds 68 10/24/54 R Wyoming Cynthia Lummis 68 9/10/54 R District Congressperson Age Birthdate Party CA-31 Grace F. Napolitano 86 12/4/36 Democratic DC-AL Eleanor Holmes Norton 85 6/13/37 Democratic KY-05 Harold Rogers 85 12/31/37 Republican NJ-09 Bill Pascrell Jr. 85 1/25/37 Democratic CA-43 Maxine Waters 84 8/15/38 Democratic MD-05 Steny H. Hoyer 83 6/14/39 Democratic SC-06 James E. Clyburn 82 7/21/40 Democratic CA-11 Nancy Pelosi 82 3/26/40 Democratic IL-07 Danny K. Davis 81 9/6/41 Democratic TX-31 John Carter 81 11/6/41 Republican CA-16 Anna G. Eshoo 80 12/13/42 Democratic FL-24 Frederica S. Wilson 80 11/5/42 Democratic CT-03 Rosa DeLauro 79 3/2/43 Democratic NC-05 Virginia Foxx 79 6/29/43 Republican TX-12 Kay Granger 79 1/18/43 Republican CA-07 Doris Matsui 78 9/25/44 Democratic IL-09 Jan Schakowsky 78 5/26/44 Democratic MO-05 Emanuel Cleaver II 78 10/26/44 Democratic GA-13 David Scott 77 6/27/45 Democratic IN-04 Jim Baird 77 6/4/45 Republican NJ-12 Bonnie Watson Coleman 77 2/6/45 Democratic CA-08 John Garamendi 77 1/24/45 Democratic OH-09 Marcy Kaptur 76 6/17/46 Democratic TX-37 Lloyd Doggett 76 10/6/46 Democratic CA-12 Barbara Lee 76 7/16/46 Democratic NC-12 Alma Adams 76 5/27/46 Democratic MD-02 C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger 76 1/31/46 Democratic TX-09 Al Green 75 9/1/47 Democratic VA-03 Robert C. Scott 75 4/30/47 Democratic GA-02 Sanford D. Bishop Jr. 75 2/4/47 Democratic NY-12 Jerrold Nadler 75 6/13/47 Democratic CA-18 Zoe Lofgren 75 12/21/47 Democratic FL-08 Bill Posey 75 12/18/47 Republican AS-AL Aumua Amata Coleman Radewagen 75 12/29/47 Republican SC-02 Joe Wilson 75 7/31/47 Republican MI-01 Jack Bergman 75 2/2/47 Republican FL-22 Lois Frankel 74 5/16/48 Democratic MS-02 Bennie Thompson 74 1/28/48 Democratic OR-03 Earl Blumenauer 74 8/16/48 Democratic CT-01 John B. Larson 74 7/22/48 Democratic AZ-07 Raul M. Grijalva 74 2/19/48 Democratic PA-16 Mike Kelly 74 5/10/48 Republican TX-36 Brian Babin 74 3/23/48 Republican MD-07 Kweisi Mfume 74 10/24/48 Democratic NY-20 Paul Tonko 73 6/18/49 Democratic TN-09 Steve Cohen 73 5/24/49 Democratic OK-04 Tom Cole 73 4/28/49 Republican TX-25 Roger Williams 73 9/13/49 Republican MA-01 Richard E. Neal 73 2/14/49 Democratic FL-11 Daniel Webster 73 4/27/49 Republican ID-02 Mike Simpson 72 9/8/50 Republican TX-29 Sylvia R. Garcia 72 9/6/50 Democratic NV-01 Dina Titus 72 5/23/50 Democratic OH-03 Joyce Beatty 72 3/12/50 Democratic VA-11 Gerald E. Connolly 72 3/30/50 Democratic WV-01 Carol Miller 72 11/4/50 Republican TX-18 Sheila Jackson Lee 72 1/12/50 Democratic TX-26 Michael C. Burgess 72 12/23/50 Republican VA-08 Donald S. Beyer Jr. 72 6/20/50 Democratic FL-16 Vern Buchanan 71 5/8/51 Republican CA-04 Mike Thompson 71 1/24/51 Democratic NJ-06 Frank Pallone Jr. 71 10/30/51 Democratic WI-04 Gwen Moore 71 4/18/51 Democratic MI-05 Tim Walberg 71 4/12/51 Republican GA-12 Rick W. Allen 71 11/7/51 Republican UT-04 Burgess Owens 71 8/2/51 Republican CA-21 Jim Costa 70 4/13/52 Democratic MA-09 William Keating 70 9/6/52 Democratic FL-05 John Rutherford 70 9/2/52 Republican CA-26 Julia Brownley 70 8/28/52 Democratic CA-10 Mark DeSaulnier 70 3/31/52 Democratic OR-02 Cliff Bentz 70 1/12/52 Republican MO-03 Blaine Luetkemeyer 70 5/7/52 Republican HI-01 Ed Case 70 9/27/52 Democratic MI-06 Debbie Dingell 69 11/23/53 Democratic CA-28 Judy Chu 69 7/7/53 Democratic CA-41 Ken Calvert 69 6/8/53 Republican NY-07 Nydia M. Velazquez 69 3/28/53 Democratic TX-03 Keith Self 69 3/20/53 Republican CA-48 Darrell Issa 69 11/1/53 Republican CT-02 Joe Courtney 69 4/6/53 Democratic NJ-02 Jeff Van Drew 69 2/23/53 Republican NY-05 Gregory W. Meeks 69 9/25/53 Democratic TX-14 Randy Weber 69 7/2/53 Republican FL-02 Neal Dunn 69 2/16/53 Republican SC-05 Ralph Norman 69 6/20/53 Republican NJ-04 Christopher H. Smith 69 3/4/53 Republican PA-03 Dwight Evans 68 5/16/54 Democratic MI-13 Shri Thanedar 68 1/1/55 Democratic OR-01 Suzanne Bonamici 68 10/14/54 Democratic GA-04 Hank Johnson 68 10/2/54 Democratic NY-13 Adriano Espaillat 68 9/27/54 Democratic MN-04 Betty McCollum 68 7/12/54 Democratic CA-32 Brad Sherman 68 10/24/54 Democratic AL-06 Gary Palmer 68 5/14/54 Republican FL-28 Carlos Gimenez 68 1/17/54 Republican OH-06 Bill Johnson 68 11/10/54 Republican -
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Trump is only 5 years younger, convicted of rape, facing 91 criminal felony charges and is running for re-election.
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Instead of being anti red or anti blue how about you be anti fuckwit?
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We need age limits for politicians. I’d be more than fine with that being 60. But this skeleton is 83; she will be 88 by the time her term is done if she wins again. Nobody near 90 should decide the future of the younger generations
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I'd make it whatever the retirement age is. In Australia, that would be 67. If we have an age where we agree it's time to collect your pension and live out your life, then it should apply to politicians as well.
No, we don't actually have this policy. Plenty of our pollies are over 67.
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Wouldn't she be 86, not 88? House term length is just 2 years, so that term would end Jan 3rd 2027 and her birthday is March 26, 1940
(Not saying 86 is young, just want to be accurate)
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Then the younger generation should vote and often
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This is kinda the national form of the village elder.
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Democrats and republicans are just looking out for different rich people.
If we ever want this nation to improve, we need to focus on independents. Party lines need to die.
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Boy I was really hoping that headline had a different ending.
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As a Dem, let me just say, please god no. We need younger people in Congress. It’s time to let go Nancy. I hope she gets primaried. Take Feinstein and Mcconnel with you on your way out.
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Democrats are a very frustrating party to be with. The alternative is 50 years out of date, racists, homophobic assholes, so you're stuck with democrats. So they put up the worst fucking candidates and we're just stuck with them because if we don't vote for them it's voting for some backwards asshole.
Worse is republicans think we love these people. No we fucking don't, get these old people out and get me someone who represents me. They're just the lesser of two evils
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There should be age limits in politics. Such as retirement age minus minimum voting age. It would be 67-18 in the US. Make it so you can’t run again after you exceeded the limit.
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Skeksis need to retire, not collapse into dust while holding on to the royal scepter.
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The land is dying, and the Skeksis continue to drain its life force
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Both sides are the same
Age
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"We are gathered here today to honor the memory of Nancy Pelosi, who-"
"Wait, no! I'm still running for Senate in 2032! I just switched to the Zombie Party!"
"...I told you guys this should have been a closed casket funeral."
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People need to ask why incumbents almost always win even if there are so many valid reasons for them to move on. The answer is pretty simple. $$$
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Can both the right and left agree to start electing people in their 40s or 50s for a change?
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Yeah, fuck these old, out of touch assholes who keep clinging to power and refuse to let the next generation come in.
Glad I stopped donating to the assholes a decade ago but fuck them all.
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“Well I Think, I could use a good fuck”…. Pelosi maybe.
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Primary her.
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If the money and perks are good, why not??
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Yeah, cut congressional salaries to $10k a year and see how long the old folks stick around. Eliminates career politicians, too.
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Then the only people who can actually be congresspeople will be the ones who are already rich. Public service should pay enough that those who work in government shouldn't need a second source of income to provide for their families. Paying politicians $10k a year will only incentivize them to accept bribes from lobbyist and corporations, leading to career politicians.
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Set it to minimum wage and see how quickly that raise goes up. Lol
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These old career politicians don't become millionaires from their federal salaries.they have PACs and get paid to be guest speakers. After they quit, they get paid millions a year to be consultants or some bullshit title VP where they only meet once a year to justify "working".
Manchin has a yatch and he's from one of the poorest states. Boats in general are a huge money sink and this asshole has a boat with enough square footage to be a regular house, 1500.
Whenever I think of West Virginia I think of rundown early 20th century homes and barefoot kids in overalls. I know it's a stereotype, but check out that video. It's so sad that they fight so hard for the coal mines that killed 3 generations because it's the only steady income in the area.
I don't condone killing politicians, but I do think tar and feathering should become fashionable again. If you're too old to outrun your constituents or survive your chickening, you're to old to represent them.
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hahahh its cute you think their salaries are where their money comes from
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Usually these style titles are for deaths, and I got excited for a moment
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I'm a progressive. I usually vote Democrat, because the Republicans are horrible. Pelosi represents everything I despise about the Democratic party establishment: serving the corporate billionaires, and blocking anything that helps working people. Sure there are many Democrats who I support, but Pelosi is NOT one of them!
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US politics really romanticizing elderly abuse.
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Not feeling great about this.
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Thatll be 6000 Billion dollars to Israel, +tips of course.
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DINOs out
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She's had years to train up a successor, at this point it's just blind power hungry arrogance.
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To your first paragraph, decline often comes suddenly. Of course with a two year term, and hundreds of representatives, it's not as critical of a risk as a 6 year senator, but still.
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