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Inconvenient, I should buy air conditioning 😒
Affects me directly and notably 😡
- Which should have been the expected response. Extremism can only ever create more extremism on the other end of the spectrum.
  The only thing those street gluers achieve is the exact opposite of their goal.
  
  Murdering the civilization by knowingly and willingly create conditions for climate change: normal behaviour, good, commendable.
  Public non-violent protests against that: extremism, bad, scary.

I love civil disobedience. Go break shit.
- The "necessity defense" stuff: I tried all the other avenues and nothing happened, I had to turn off this oil pipeline.

Eh, it honestly depends on what the climate protestors are doing. If they're chaining themselves to people's cars, painting aeroplanes with toxic paint (so the company has to use toxic chemicals to remove it), or glue themselves to the autobahn, then they're honestly just making a mockery out of climate activism.
Moira who can't get to work because some cunt chained themselves to her wheel isn't going to become an ally when she gets scolded by her shitty boss for being late due to something she can't control. She needs to pay her landlords mortgage and put food on the table for her kids. Her old car might not be the most environmentally friendly but it might be the only option she has.
Picket parliament. Organise big costly strikes. Build gillotines and kidnap the CEOs and investors of big oil. Or you know, do something productive, like show the impact a small pond and some wildflowers can make in a green desert, or maybe work to restore wetlands.
Most people do care, but don't have the time or capacity to do shit about it. If you have the time and energy to fuck over Duncan on his way to his shitty second job so he can pay for his mortgage and his student loans, you have time to fuck over the people that have the power to help you actually make a change.
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- Eh, lynching the big suits in the oil industry is fine by me.
  Make them scared to leave their homes if they want to sacrifice everything for their own profits.
  The way things are going, there will come a day when we regret we didn't become violent against them while there was still time to stop climate change.
- I'm sorry, how are they getting their hands on toxic paint? Are are they making it themselves? If it's the later then they have really just undone the entire of their "point".

Yeah but I can't direct my hate at an individual as easy when it's hot outside
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"It's people doing things and caring that annoys me"
- Except they aren't actually doing anything. They should go shut down a factory or something.
  
  Diversity of tactics. There's no point in pissing on other people's praxis when you have the capacity and space to organise your own.
  Want harder action? Find a pipeline. Blockade a port.
  Want to educate people about actions and how to get involved? Organise a street march and equip people with rhetoric to help turn the tide against fossil fuel astroturfing.
  Just do something.
  They are - which means they're ahead.
  
  Have you been living under a rock?? They've been doing that for ages and keep getting arrested
  
  That's what they've been trying for years, and we don't hear much about it because they're quietly arrested.

If sticking heads in sand was an Olympic sport, climate change deniers would consistently take home 100 kg antimatter trophies.

Greenies:Stop oil now!
Also greenies: *obstructs nuclear power for 60+ years. *
Please stop pretending we can run society on wind and solar.
- We can run society on wind and solar, and it's looking more and more of a certainty that the price of the alternatives will bankrupt all of them.
- You can. With nuclear as the baseline. Infinitely (not literally) more clean than fossil fuels and way, WAY more safe even including Chornobyl in the stats.
- But we can
  
  No, you literally can't. Energy demands are only going to increase. The energy output for the land required, for a nuclear plant, is far better overall compared to the area required for wind and solar to match it.

Isn't the direct and immediate personal inconvenience the point? But, like, target the people who have decision-making power.
- Just try to actually target the people with decision-making power to see what happens.
  Those "we must have an impact!" protest never do that.

One of those more directly inconveniences treat flow. Maybe.
Extinction Rebellion doesn't even do that.

C+, You can do better. The cow should be in every panel in some form.

They've done actual studies that show these protests are counter productive, blindly supporting anything just because they claim to support your cause is incredibly dumb.
In this world there are a huge amount of people who really, really, really like attention and will insert themselves into anything to try and get it, they'll use any excuse to 'boost their profile' especially if they can pretend to be some form of hero along the way.
The idiot who got shot in the capitol and the idiot who threw soup on the painting are the same unthinking attention seeking type of idiot, the right pretend they're breaking into the capitol to save children, the left try to ruin people's day in the name of climate change - then on their respective sides a whole host of idiots cheer and say 'I'm supporting these brave activists so I'm not part of the problem, I can continue to live my life exactly as I chose - safe in the knowledge that cheering on these idiots is enough'

If you believe there is anything you can do about this. Then you are naive. There are almost eight billion of us. We have an immense industry. People not worrying about things like that is normal. Because they are to busy feeding there children. Trying to live a little. Also why do people think that you can stop climate change. The dice has been rolled. Alea iacta est.
- Stop with the black pill nonsense. There's plenty we can do. Get active, get amongst it, break unjust laws.
  Lay down and rot somewhere else.
  
  No need to be offensive
- It has become fashionable for some to take a defeatist condescending stance like this when it comes to issues that affect everyone. If you think it makes you look smart, it doesn't. These are pressing issues and people have to take action. If you don't want to, go ahead and disappear. But don't talk down to those who are and those who are calling for it.
  
  It's my opinion. Has nothing to do with talking down. I genuinly don't believe there is anything we can do.

Protest at the big corporations, cool, I might show up.
Protest in the middle of the fucking road, and you might get hit...
- Americans be like "Nothing gets between me and the job that makes me want to kill myself."
  
  I can't be ladt to my 12 hour shift on my second job or i'll lose my home tomorrow.
  
  Yup that's the only reason
- We get it, you care as long as your selfish ass isn't inconvenienced. I so love a society that pretends to care oh so much about democracy and the average person supposedly being able to change things and then being so angry about then being the target of protests when they don't take the actions to change things.
  
  You think they don't know, or don't care? They can't do shit about it because individual people aren't the root of the problem. "Inconveniencing" someone by potentially costing them their livelihood and home isn't going to win you any support.
- Protest in the middle of the fucking road, and you might get hit...
  This guy has so many edges he became a sphere.
- "inconvenience me and I might murder you with my car" I hope you're getting a lot of money from the oil tycoons in exchange for being one of their brownshirts
- You're asking them to protest at places where you evidently haven't noticed the protests all these years, because you haven't shown up. You're not going to show up. I don't think even you believe you're going to show up.
  But you do seem to notice the protests you can't ignore. There's only one way you can make those stop.

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