1y ago

Next war is on China

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Swaying them to vote...for who? Remind me which US political party would align with Chinese interests. Are they staging a massive coup for the CPUSA?
- Whichever party you don't like, because China bad.
- Really the only thing that would make sense is some radlib that would strive to normalize relations in the name of pacifism or whatever or some libertarian who'd do the whole "free trade with anyone" shtick.
  Neither has come to prominence nor is rising in popularity, at least to my knowledge as someone from overseas.

The dialogue in this next US election is gonna be really ugly for Asian-Americans.
- For sure, lots of questioning loyalties and "you're not a real American if you don't vote X side".
  Wonder what new slur they'll create for Asians similar to the one they created for Russians last year...
  
  i don't think that the question is about voting for x, your loyalties will be questioned based on your looks, so it's going to be really bad for people of asian descent, even if u were born in the country or are there many generations. we seen this in world war 2, when japan attacked, the government made concentration camps for japonese people, even tho they had no involvement in the war or even any ties to japan
  
  Wonder what new slur they’ll create for Asians similar to the one they created for Russians last year…
  They might take a page out of /pol/ and call them soulless bugmen.

To Sway US Voters in which direction?
To the party that hates China (Blue) or the party that hates China (Red)?
- The funniest part here is that these kinds of articles sowing mistrust in the electoral process are doing far more damage than China could ever hope to achieve. Both liberal and conservative media continue to fuel the idea that elections are rigged and that the other side is cheating to win. US is now at a point where large portions of the public think that elections are unfair and if their party doesn't win that must be because the other side cheated or some foreign actor interfered in the elections.
  Democracy is fundamentally a social contract that people choose to abide by. People have to believe that the system is fundamentally fair, and when their side loses then they have to accept that as a democratic choice. However, once the trust in the system is broken then there is no reason to respect election results. At that point people see the winner as an illegitimate tyrant that rules over them. The country ends up in a very volatile territory once the idea that the system is rigged starts to take hold.
  
  Something that's darkly amusing about that, living here, is that the election results are almost a 50/50 split every time on the national level, and sometimes even when one candidate has more than the other guy, the other guy wins anyway. So, even if everyone had faith in the system and that the numbers are accurate (which politicians do cheat, so they really aren't), that still means that: a) roughly half the country is going to be against the winner and support any effort to undermine them, and b) even getting a majority doesn't really mean much if the Electoral College can just support the other candidate.
  But yeah, I just gotta keep voting Blue for that harm reduction they can't deliver on, while living in a state that's consistently 2/3 Republican in every election, and which passes laws that make it difficult to vote for anything else.
  I'm not bitter in the slightest.
  
  At that point people see the winner as an illegitimate tyrant that rules over them
  You'd think so but Americans love Bush now even though he stole the 2000 election
- It's the ingeneous sit back and let the US slowly destroy itself strategy that seems to be working out pretty well.
  
  https://www.theonion.com/fbi-uncovers-al-qaeda-plot-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-c-1819576375
  
  China used the AI to confirm that this would work and the AI did not disappoint.
- The Party that attempted to kill Maduro or the one that really wants to

source: their ass
What interest would they have in swaying voters between 2 different wings of the same imperialist party that both want the destruction of the PRC lol
- : "Let's mess with their political system. As a joke."

"The report provided limited examples of the recent activity and did not explain in detail how researchers attributed the posts to China."
Everytime
- "The report provided limited examples of the recent activity and did not explain in detail how researchers attributed the posts to China."
  Sounds like a sh.itjust.works power poster.
  YOU ARE ALL BOTS I WILL CONTINUE TO YELL AT YOU BUT YOU'RE ALSO BOTS
- These mfers KNOW 80% of people just read headlines and 19% of the rest who actually read will not budge from their preconceived idea if you hit them with a few buzzwords

Beginning to think that Americans on social media are feeble minded babies with no agency of their own swayed in whichever direction foreign shills and bots want to take them in.
- It's not just Americans. It's anyone who stays on social media for too long. You can actively defend for some time, but if you spend 4-5 hours a day on Facebook, you're bound to get trapped in this shit.
  Hell, even here on Lemmy there are instances full of nutjobs circlejerking over the political flavor of the week...
  
  The bigger point is that the USA is pretty much the technological leader of the world and a frontrunner in information warfare. All the major social media companies have to have close ties with the US state department to be able to function at the scale at which they do. So why is it that Russo-Chinese bots and shills are running circles around Americans?
- https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/ I was reading this essay that makes the argument that it's not that manufactured consent or invented reality but that that can't Fathom that another government could be doing well or much better than themselves
  So they just always accept smears their state media puts out despite the lack of evidence
- Really though the majority of those shills and bots have been USian/Western. For example they found the vast majority of bots talking about Ukraine were pro-Ukraine. Yet again the Yankee commits wolfery on itself and then cries wolf.
  
  as always

honestly you're a failed country if other powers can so easily tamper with your elections.
- 👆👆 almost like they raised one of the biggest countries in the world to be full of people who can't think critically and just react to snarky quips and fear
  
  It reminds me of the moment in Dune when God Emperor try hard to not absolutely despise the Museum Fremen by telling himself "i cannot blame them, i made them what they are".

Ok so, Putin sponsoring Trump sounds ... eh, at least there's some kind of proximity in discourse
But who the fuuuuuck do they think China is willing the burgerlanders to vote for??? The communist party??? There are two electorally viable parties and both are super anti-China. It just doesn't make sense
- Russiagate got stale so they're going to use Chinagate this time lol

For a country that harps on about personal responsibility we sure do blame everybody but ourselves for the fact posting racist Facebook memes is an effective way to influence the beliefs of 60% of this country.

I guess the "Russiagate" stuff only goes so far.
- Can't wait for this to get called "Yellowgate"
  
  maybe they'll go with a more sinister sounding "sinogate" which will have the added benefit of most people not knowing wtf that is

This never happens in Burgerland!
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- I'm glad that I never seen that 3rd dude.
  Peter Jordanson and Bench Appearo I have seen in my recommended despite detesting both of these incoherent fools.
  
  That guy shit his britches when he got to the pronoun selector in starfield's character creation
- I bet some of these politicians have decried Russian/Chinese foreign influence in American politics in the same week or on the same day as they attended some AIPAC event.

Russia, one day; China, the next. Perhaps, Iran, after that?
- Usania vs. BRICS
  
  What's that thing the World always does when one superpower takes on a whole coalition at once? Yeah, get ready for one of those.
- I think Mexico is the dark horse
  
  2027 US invasion of Mexico because "cartel"
- Sri Lanka threatens the security of our proud democratic institutions

Is Microsoft trying to win some huge government contract? I don't understand why they would put their neck out there like this. I imagine China is a big market for them.
- How would Microsoft even know this? They make software, they're not a counter espionage group. It's just some poor appeal to authority or something.
  
  Microsoft definitely has a large enough employee base of security dweebs to put together a team to do stuff like this for a government contract

First as farce, then as farce again

War with Russia is ended china is new best war
- George Orwell is a taint but 1984 definitely has some bangers.
  ~ We've always been at war with Eurasia ~
  
  And this
  
  I've said it before and I'll say it again: 1984 is a masterwork of projection.

So what's the "Chinese AI" saying, grandma?
I'm what? No no no, my tone is fine its just-
I KNOW you saw it on your feed but thats not the same as news gr-
Ok, ok. No, Im not trying to bother you. Do you know if the AI-
Yes, yes, I know he's a Dictator grandma, you told me. Did the-
No? Ok well why dont you google it?
It's active there too? .....Oh. Sure.
Too many..? No grandma, that was like four questions. Bye! (hangs up)
Simulation of your relatives discovering this article

This is stolen valor, I've been a Chinese bot since before they invented AI

~~Russia~~Chinagate
- And people will believe it too. Amazing how many idiots exist.

Chinese ai on social media to sway US voters

Ukraine 2: Taiwan Boogaloo coming soon in Spring 2024

AI? more like "ay, I'm votin' ova heah"
- gotteeeem 🗣📢

this article is just- what??

This won't work nearly as well as Russiagate considering most of America is expecting someone to cheat in the upcoming election.

I'm sorry you had to find out like this. It's true. I've been a bot all along 🤖🇨🇳
- One of us! One of us! One of us!

Reliable nonaligned 3rd party Microsoft says...

For the first time, Canada is ahead in this Chinagate game

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do it !!!!!
- pounding table NEW REEF NEW REEF NEW REEF
- Please father xi 🙏

So, uh… just curious: what is it that they think that Washington has been doing in other countries’ elections for the past one hundred years?
- Freedom and more freedom and then democracy. It's like opening a valve more and more...
  
  Freedom is when you use disinformation campaign and propaganda to determine election result apparently. The neo liberals imply that indoctrination determined election result in 2016 from their claim that Putin team can rig election result in a rival superpower just by their freedom of speech on Facebook. Why can't AI by the hard working innovative Communist do the same in the lazy capitalist free riding countries?

sway us voters to do what?
- To vote for Trumpy.... He sold out for the Chinese monies..

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

The USA propaganda machine

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