So, libreddit and nitter are dead, what now?
as the title says, all of these frontends are dead now, which means that its impossible to view any of the datat that exists on these sites if we dont own an account
is that it? should we just quit using these sites or what?
We don't need reddit, reddit needs us. Just move on and be done with the platform. Just create new habits with Lemmy and reddit should slowly fade away from your mind. If we give alternatives some time, I'm sure great content will emerge and crazy shit like the three days no poop challenge will happen more over time.
I am personally very optimistic.
The answer is to use Fediverse alternatives to Reddit and Twitter.
What a wild idea...
The solution is to ditch Reddit altogether.
should've stopped a long time ago. I've been off everything but reddit for years and now I'm here.
we need to respond to things fucking us over quicker. Blizzard, the public transit system in America, Reddit, Twitter, Blizzard, the United States.
we give these cunts too much wiggle room
With things like Blizzard it's "easy". I don't NEED Diablo 4. I'd like it, but i'm not going to get it out of principle. But Reddit is different. I don't need it as a social media platform or to post myself, but for me, a huge portion of relevant online search results are from reddit. I pretty much run into tech and non-tech issues on a daily basis that are only documented or solved by a years old reddit post. And i'm pretty sad to see that go. Not the social part of reddit, but having so much condensed knowledge in a single place.
And while lemmy is nice it isn't an alternative until i can move instances and subscribe to communities without having a pending status for weeks. You also can't search online for lemmy because of motörhead and because every instance names itself.
I would argue reddit shouldn't have been used for tech stuff and troubleshooting as much as it was. Neither should discord for that matter.
For this purpose wikis and old-school forums worked well. I hope we go more back to that.
I also just quit youtube. Don't use it much so now I'm down to streaming services that won't spam me or are actually worth paying for. There's nothing on YouTube I'd pay to watch. Sorry viva la dirt league, not even you. If they had their own streaming service maybe!
So, which are worth paying for? Netflix hasn't done a good show for me in 2 or 3 years. Prime Videos Interface, search and selection sucks, Paramount has basically only Star Trek for me. Disney plus comes pretty close for me. I love Star Wars and Marvel, and with a child in the house, they have something for everyone. But i'd argue Disney is a morally worse company than google or reddit.
should we just quit using these sites or what?
Yes.
Are they?
Teddit uses his own "Unofficial API" for scrapping.
I've posted here a list of Reddit apps that will continue to work https://lemmy.ml/comment/1054018
How do these apps manage to still work?
They don't use the API, they appear as web browsers and download the actual reddit webpages and extract the posts and comments from that.
Which is certainly more inefficient and stressing reddit's servers more than using the API.
Because I don't want to feed your addiction I will not let you know which 3rd party apps will work because FUCK SPEZ nobody should ever go back lol.
Damn, check out this guy with his fancy embedded meme into his comment.
Now you will have to tell
Teddit doesn't hold any data. It's "data" was reddit. It's developers think that when you use the free key for 60 requests per second, that it will probably be enough.
Libreddit is trying to use the private Reddit API . Which is currently being used by the official Reddit app.
Running Teddit using a free key seems fairly usable, as long as you are self hosting an instance. Libreddits's approach tries to bring back the old situation
Projects will deviate and find ways to be useful again.
Yes; I highly doubt any of these projects are truly "dead", they just need to figure out the best ways to scrape these services.
Libreddit is trying to use the private Reddit API . Which is currently being used by the official Reddit app.
How is this possible? Doesn’t Reddit restrict their private API behind some sort of key/token?
Teddit use an unofficial API https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit they don't relay on reddit.
Teddit provides unofficial API (proxy) for rss but it relies on reddit API.
teddit config.js file
use_reddit_oauth: process.env.USE_REDDIT_OAUTH === 'true' || false, // If false, teddit uses Reddit's public API. If true, you need to have your own Reddit app ID (enter the app ID to the "reddit_app_id" config key).
I saw it in their codeberg.org repo. Shit.
If I want to still be able to look at the works of my favorite artists, photographers and animators, I will unfortunately have to use it to some extent. Some of them also post on other platforms like pixiv, which allows you to look at content without an account. If there is any other way to look at their content, I do, but some are Twitter exclusive unfortunately.
People will naturally follow their favorite artists and will want to interact with them. If you could somehow convince the creators to post on a free and open alternative, I would not have any problem completely deleting my Twitter account.
In the case of Reddit, I would delete my Reddit account if I knew that all the rock hounders, bug identifiers, mineral photographers and crochet enthusiasts were here.
So, what now? If you are able to, create content that people are interested in and post in exclusively on free and open alternatives. If you have any useful skills or know-how, help people on free and open alternatives with their questions and problems. That is how I got into Twitter and Reddit at least. Maybe it will work for others too.
And most importantly: be nice. Don't downvote people's comments and posts for no reason. Don't leave toxic comments. Say Thank you, give people compliments, provide constructive criticism and try to be helpful.
that's true, I was thinking about self hosting floss alternatives to popular social media sites and make them publicly available for everyone in my country to use, but then I forgot that I dont have money for this
maybe I can show up to a convention later?
Wait nitter is dead too?
Yes unfortunately Twitter did that yesterday. Hopefully they will be able to scrape the content somehow anyway (apparently Twitter still allows googlebot to crawl their Tweets, so maybe Nitter will just disguise as a googlebot)
For now. They're supposedly going to open it back up with limited access per user.
Lemmy
We'll live. Long live the fediverse (and old-school forums)
BTW: was there ever or is there any sort of listing for all sorts of hobbyist or thematic forums? The main reason I never used many of them was because I never came across them and admittedly it was pretty easy to do that in reddit just by typing r/doesacommunityforthistopicexist
edit: is there some similar listing for mastodon? I'm having trouble finding a type of technical-oriented crowd.
Yes, there are a couple of websites that categorise and provide searching for communities across the Lemmyverse.
https://www.quippd.com/writing/2023/06/15/unofficial-subreddit-migration-list-lemmy-kbin-etc.html
There's a bunch more too.
Jerboa has a search function that finds them - right in the app!
On Lemmy, you can check out electronics-related ones on discuss.tchncs.de
There's also a ton of programming related ones on programming.dev, only listed a few below
Not sure obout Mastodon though
Libreddit works fine for me.
I can confirm that.
so far...
I don’t think it will die soon, Libreddit doesn’t use the API anyway. Also you claimed these services were already dead.
It gives us the great joy of saying "fuck 'em"
is that it? should we just quit using these sites or what?
Yes.
Going to miss nitter especially because twitter requiring sign in, guess I'll use google cache for reddit or just try not to look at the links
yes, exactly
libreddit is still working for me
We should strive to use/promote privacy-friendly and foss alternatives ( fediverse in general ) like Mastodon or Lemmy.
Youtube is also blocking invidious and Piped. Frontends are no end solution. The only solution can be the fediverse. But you can use these services with a good ad blocker
NewPipe (on Piped technology) is working fine here? As long as YT isn't behind a login they will keep working. If they do put it behind login, tbf they'll likely find way around it again sooner or later.
I agree that front-ends are always in an endless fight against these Big Tech solutions. But for content not available on other platforms it's an necesity and a better solution than simply an adblocker. And sadly it'll take a long time before content moves away, Average Joe isn't really worried about Google as much as they are about the cons of moving away from YT.
Wie are really lucky newpipe still works, but I think Google will do more. I expect, that Newpipe, Aurora and all other YouTube Frontends are breaking.
If this would happen, the only solution I see to still access these services ist to use Mullvad Browser with u blog origin. And of course you need a goof VPN like mullvad
But in the end you can't escape it
Stealth app on android still works buut lemmy just don't use reddit at this point
Infinity also still works for me, but they announced in the recent update, that they are switching to a subscription based platform to keep up with the API changes.
Less traffic for them, just don't use their shit anymore!
Wait WHAT?!!
yes
I quit twitter when Elmo bought it and quit reddit when they announced their new pricing model. lemmy and mastodon are great!
So I just visited reddit for the first time since June 30th because of this post. Opened a private window, typed reddit.com. It loaded fine. What makes you think you need an account to "view any of the datat that exists on" reddit?
because teddit is faster, lighter and looks better than stock reddit site
also to prevent trackers, ads and unnecessary JS that bloats and slows down the browser
That's not quite true. I self-host libreddit and it continues to work fine. The public instances with many users will not work because of the new API limits, but if you run one yourself, it should continue to work.
That said, I've mostly switched over to lemmy and mastodon and haven't had a need to go to reddit or twitter.
Redread still works.
Reddit and Twitter are next. There's nothing more to gain from using them.
Quitting from sites you despise is a better option than hopping from frontend to frontend in my view.