Daily Discussion Thread: Thu 07 Sep 2023
Daily Discussion Thread: Thu 07 Sep 2023
Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
Daily Discussion Thread: Thu 07 Sep 2023
Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
so recently I was encouraged/asked by an employer to apply for a job with them. I'm not looking, but it was interesting work, so I thought "why not?". Had an interview, great chats etc.
they just contacted me to ask if I would take the role at a level several below what they had said it would be, which was already below what I currently earn, in the order of tens of thousands of dollars, and significantly more junior.
I try not to be rude in these situations, but I was so shocked I actually laughed in the zoom call and just said "absolutely not", wished them well and concluded the call immediately.
they approached me, not the other way around, and I am comfortably and successfully employed. why on earth would they waste my time, and their own!? my job comes with a very clear title, and my salary band is very public information (10 second google).
Don't get me wrong - I'm grateful to be in the position to have options, it's just that the whole thing was very, very weird (and I'm trying not to be so arrogant as to be mildly insulted).
Are you by any chance in government and it was a private sector agency offering, like, a really cool, family vibe, like, you know, we work hard, but we play hard? We also have a ping pong table and free muffins?
I experienced similar in the past. They seemed to think their 'trying really hard to be like Google' schtick would make me ignore the worse benefits and salary.
Haha that’s fantastic. What kind of shitty offer was that-it’s genuinely laughable.
Had this happen quite a few times, I just tell them it would be a pay cut, so not interested. Recruiters are needy af and try to pigeonhole me into any role that they see fit. (Tech).
interestingly, it wasn't recruiters but the company directly. Anybody remotely familiar with my industry would be able to guess my salary fairly easily based on my employer and my position title (or google the info in a few seconds), so it was just a very strange incident all round.
That's not being mildly insulted, that's knowing your worth.
TBH, I'd try be more diplomatic. "You understand this is far below the market rate, right?" and if they say yes "Whilst I appreciate the offer I don't appreciate my time being wasted". Not worth burning bridges, right?
oh, I don't know....it shows either a complete lack of preparation on their part or (more likely given that their original pitch was more reasonable) an underhanded attempt to get particular expertise/kudos on the cheap As I said, my pay rate is pretty common knowledge: I have a specific position, and you can google that position, my employer, and see what I'm paid within a narrow bracket. My position title also makes my level of seniority very clear. Either way, not a group I want to work with, so if I burnt any bridges I'm not too bothered
I wasn't at all rude to them, I was genuinely just shocked and politely terminated the discussion (albeit after a slight chuckle). I can think of many individuals in my equivalent position/approximate field who will be a lot more blunt with them than I was, should they attempt the same thing!
This week has been hectic, and I only managed ~4 hours sleep last night. I just cracked open a post-work beer and I'm so tired that I almost poured it into my stubbie holder. Thank goodness I only need to reheat last night's leftovers for dinner, or this night could end in disaster.
Heading to a 90's partay this w/e so desperately trying to find all the worst 90's things.
Found my old G-SHOCK watch and it is peak shitty 90's I love it. It even tells you barometric pressure for some reason.
those G-shock watches are good
and they still work even when the internets and phone system is down!!
I'm also not forced to use my phone ( I'm looking at you fit bit 🤬, fit bit is now a security risk and basically a brick)
looks at the G-Shock on his wrist*
aww man...
Baby-G wearer concurs.
😘
awww, 😘
All the kisses in the world are yours!
In-person interview scheduled for Monday eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
🤞
Woohoo! Go get it
Crossing everything!
Good luck! Wishing you the best!
🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Woo! Go spuddy 🎶 Go spuddy 🎶
I made scallop potato in the airfryer but I lined up the slices vertically and it turned out like this
Yes that's cheese you see and it was amazing. I accompanied it with this
There's a pork steak hiding under the fried egg
Egg pretty :)
Thank you
Those scalloped potatoes look heavenly. 🤤
It was so good. I'd definitely do it again.
This is a Studio Ghibli level plate of food. Incredible
It's the new potato.
delicious and worth the wait
Drool
Ok you’ve made me hungry!
Lemonade, Pink Lemonade, Raspberry Lemonade, Cherry lemonade and now I find out that Orangeade is not only a thing but it's amazing too?? Australia is lacking HARD in the 'ade' industry. I'm gonna have to go ahead and fuck around and make this motherfucker of a company aren't I?
Welp.. see you all when I'm rich and you're pouring my reasonably priced delicious 'ade' range of beverages over a tall glass of ice. Sweat beading down your foreheads, not from a hard day's work but because you now drink so much sugar that it's like running a 5k just getting to the fridge to grab yourself yet another icy cold, citrusy burst of liquid heaven sliding down your hungering gullet. More! More! You can never have enough and you can never get enough of that fruity milk squeezed from my throbbing teat as I thunderously laugh at the zeros which keep piling up in my bank account. Drink from me! Drink of me! Tell your families! Demand your children! Everybody must drink my delicious, thirst quenching range of home style lemonades and orangeades. Available in good stores, vending machines, restaurants, stadiums, churches & other houses of faith, home delivery, click and collect, click and don't collect just pay and get nothing, afterpay, umm I dunno maybe a library if they have a shop or Bunnings! Yeah Bunnings for sure. And like.. just wherever you go. Anywhere. I'll be there.
I see you’ve witnessed school pick up/drop off in the northern suburbs
Oh we doin Reddit rage here? Nice. Friggin.. SUVs! Grr!
I live near bayside. The fucking hilarity....
The easy way to spot them is the wheels. If they are low profile road tyres they are most likely not doing anything off-road. You can’t judge by them not having dirt on them though as lots of people actually take care of their car and wash it after off-roading as they are expensive.
Dinner tonight.
Tonkatsu noodles with steamed Gyoza and cauliflower
I’m going to eat well tonight!
Yuuummm. Perfect weather for it too.
Yum!
Better late than never! I guess the vet wasn't able to save the squid?
Hi guys.
I have a funeral this morning, and footy tickets for the final tonight. Emotionally speaking, today is going to be…a lot
Emotional whiplash - look after yourself, you got this!
Hope everything goes as smoothly as possible for you 🙏
An honest woman lies at rest
As e'er God with his image blest;
The friend of man, the friend of truth,
The friend of age, and guide of youth:
Few hearts like hers, with virtue warm'd,
Few heads with knowledge so informed:
If there's another world, she lives in bliss;
If there is none, she made the best of this.
With apologies to Robbie Burns, but it's fitting. Thank you EAL
Okay somebody needs to ban me from Aldi cuz I end up buying the sweet and chilli chips and the salt/pepper cashews like everytime 😭 can someone recommend some healthier savoury snacks pleaseeee
Thanks mate.
Really? What sort of stuff do you buy in there? I rarely go in, but whenever I do, my thought process is something like "who buys this stuff?"
Now my local shopping centre is about to get one. Which would be fine if they weren't replacing the green grocer. Now the only place to buy veggies in the centre is Coles/Woolies.
I might need to be as well.
Thoughts of loading up my lolly jar are getting into my head.
Going to be a good Melbourne day. Heat (22 deg) with north wind and then rain and thunder and snow on the high tops. Good footy weather for the first go of finals coming also. May just hibernate this weekend.
Advance party checking in to say if it's anything like over here it's definitely a stay-indoors-and-relax weather system once it gets to Melbourne. Getting out of bed was treacherous...
dammit, I have a quiet day at work so delayed my pre-work walk to lunchtime. poor choices.
Love when people weigh themselves mid-workout 🤣
Or after a shit
Went to get the mail and saw a group of Jehovah’s witnesses doing the rounds across the street. Never ran inside so fast. The door won’t be answered.
Can I suggest a different course of action? Sympathy. "Boys, I know you cant see this right now, but you are being inducted in a cult. And your church pushes you out to push your religion on unreceptive folks. its rude, and its intended to expose you to hostility to drive you further into the church's arms. But it doesnt have to be this way, remember that one day when you wake up and start questioning your lives".
The church is pushing them into this shit, no reason we cant (politely) push back. Show them we're not the evil they are told we are.
Health insurers briskly making up for missing those covid hikes i see
Yay, the Tote has been saved!
Flagondries!
I am making a cookie brownie, which is normal cookie mix with too much melted butter and added cocoa powder to offset the butter.
I was also too lazy (read: too tipsy) to seperate the dough into individual cookies, so I just dumped the mix into the baking tray and spread it out.
I have no idea how it will turn out, but as I am tipsy and slightly stoned I know it is going to be delicious.
I will add a pic to this post if I remember when it is done.
Edit: COOKIE
It's perfectly ok to make a giant tray cookie. It's how I make shortbreads and they turn out well. When it comes out the oven leave it in the tray and cut it while it's hot. Then let cool in tray. 👍
Please do. I've made mini cheese cakes. Just waiting for them to set. Waiting waiting waiting.
Cookie Monster!
We made a toblerone cookie the size of a pizza pan once. Zero regrets.
Some diabetes, but zero regrets.
Yesssssss
🍽️
I’ve also been looking at making brownie cookies! (I made burnt basque cheesecake earlier this week.) Only wish my kitchen was bigger. Drives me nuts.
Had first round interview for the role i'm applying for and i think it may have gone really well? Conversation flowed really well and both interviewers said I asked great questions and one of the questions was one that neither interviewer had apparently received before. i'll hear back if i've progressed to the final interview stage on tuesday which is with the team lead i met today and the ceo. But now begins the second guessing and imposter syndrome
Hang on, wasn't there about 80 odd people who did the first interviews, and you were one of a handful that made it further? Away with that imposter syndrome! You are a pearl!
Oh 80 people applied for the job. I was one of like 10 chosen for a phone interview. Made it through that and psychometric testing but yeah my brain is like, 'yep this the end of the road you're not going any further dummy'. But thank you for calling me a pearl 😅 😅
Kinda want to do something petty... Work's been messing around doing all sorts of shitfuckery, and I know for a fact that if I suddenly became ill today they'd have a breakdown.
Do et
potentially random questio : does anybody have a quiet, efficient kettle that they'd recommend? mine just gave up the ghost. Cost not really an issue (within 2SD of the mean, say...)
Choice on Kettles says that you can't really go on price alone.
After using my membership to get to the real reviews, they recommend Russell Hobbs Montana Kettle RHK142. The Russell Hobbs Stone Textured Kettle RHK62STN if you can find it at like half price or something, because an RRP of $129 for a kettle is crazy.
Honourable mention to Kambrook Pour With Ease 1.7L BPA Free Kettle KKE280 which had "Acceptable noise levels" and is a far more reasonable $40.
interesting - thanks, will check em out
we've had the Breville IQ (glass, multiple temps) for about 8 years now, have yet to kill it. Occasionally have to clean it, but that literally involves chucking about a quarter teaspoon citric acid in it and running a boil.
thank you, will have a look
The last couple of days I've been washing my kitchen ceiling and it's hard fucking work. I used to get up on a ladder and do it by hand but I'm old now so I use one of these.
Anyway this is the shit that comes off my timber ceiling on to my trusty cloths.
You can't do that with microfibre
I did that a while back, and it was amazing how much dirt came off (it didn’t look that bad beforehand)
It's not until you change a light bulb and you touch the roof that you realise ewww.
It turns out that the super rare NotCovid virus is still out there. Be safe, people.
the new one has zero immunity grace period. Terrifying AF.
Oh no, what are your symptoms at the moment?
My symptoms are that I'm back in the office. This was actually my wife's RAT. Her work made her provide a negative test before she headed back in. Still not sure if it's better to be sick together or not. I prefer to be left alone to sleep forever when I'm sick.
The last time we were both sick at the same time, the kids were super little and it was so hard to wrangle them while feeling like death that we needed to call a friend to come take them away. At least these days the kids can mostly look after themselves.
I love these daycare summaries. My kids never in it cause he is ALWAYS asleep. I think he’s been in like one of ‘em.
So warm in Adelaide. The warm before the storm. I like my accom but the sound of the neighbour's compressor outside is driving me nuts. Maybe I have to put my room's aircon on too to drown it out. Idk. Really need to be sleeping now but I had such a good long conversation with my colleague through to midnight. It was worth it.
Owning a set of https://www.happyearsearplugs.com/au/ is a game changer for the sound / sleep situation you're in.
Finally settled at home, my feet hurt mega bad, no thanks to it healing from allergies.
I returned with 8x 5pks of noodles , mixed varieties, frozen veg, fried shallots, some bean curd skin and more hash browns and some chippies as a treat. Also couldn’t help but pick up a can of herring and some smoked oysters.
This will sate my desire for msg laden noodles for awhile.
Food budget has been spent and exceeded a little bit I will eat very well!
Let me know what you think of the oysters!
Will do. I got the ones in oil.
I just felt like eating some down the line and I’m not sure there’s much to view on other than taste.
Oh they were from Aldi as well.
Found my old Raspberry Pi and setup a separate server monitor.
I wish I knew more about the Pi and what I could do with it. I've been using/working in tech since the 80s and I still have NFI! lol
They're up a bit in price due to chip shortages, but i've built a 3d printer controller and a retro game emulator, hubs is building a brew controller. There's some tasty images out there for them.
Day 117 of not knowing whether Australia has been invited back to Eurovision in 2024
It's giving me the shits! JUST TELL US DAMMIT!!
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Why is that? Did we do something embarrassing?
Looks like we're in for nasty weather - there's a bad moon on the rise. BOM forecast
Breakfast 🍏🍎🍐🍊🍋🍈🫐🍓🍇🍉🍌🍒🍑🥭🍍🥥🥦🥑🫛🍆🍅🥝🥬🥒🌽🥕🥐🍠🫚🥔🧅🥯🍞🥖🥨🧀🧇🥞🧈🍳🥚🥓🥩🍗🍖🫓🍕🍟🍔🌭🥙🧆🌮🌯🥗🍲🍜🍝🥘🍛🍣🍱🥟🦪🍥🍘🍚🍙🐠🍤🪼🦀🐙🥠🥮🍢🍡🍧🍰🧁🥧🍦🍨🎂🍮🍭🍬🍫🥜🌰🍪🍿🍯🥛☕️🍵🍺🍶🥤🧋🧃🥂🍷🥃🍸🍹🧉🔋
Going with my theme from yesterday, I'll have some breakfast noodles with an extra fried egg please chef.
🦑🍅🧅🌶️🍋🌿
I'll 'ave the 'ole lot in a bucket
🥓🍳🍳🍞☕️
I regret wearing short sleeves with no jacket and shorts. My bones hurt and my fingers are stiff (and not the fun kind). I need to look at getting an official diagnosis for hypermobility things because my fingers just, they lock into place especially when it's cold.
Ugh C-link is taking a millenia to process my partner's switch from AusStudy to Jobseeker, so they're giving me his rent assistance portion which means he prolly won't get a payment tomorrow.
Yes Centrelink, $151 rent assistance is enough for my $1868 rent 🙄🙄🙄
Fuck fuck fucking fuck fuck
$1868 rent
:(
Yes Centrelink, $151 rent assistance is enough for my $1868 rent 🙄🙄🙄
This is why I've never bothered faffing around with Centerlink whenever I've been between jobs. The amount you get from them wouldn't even cover rent. Just gotta get a new job ASAP.
I wouldn't have gone to them if we weren't flat broke ugh
Speaking of my weather comment earlier today. Just seeing the weather for tomorrow and it's supposed to be 9 degrees here in the SE. What the hell?
Don't forget the damaging winds and hail.
Yep the winds are wild right now!
Thinking of an informal summer alternative to trackies.
Fisherman’s pants are expensive and not easy to get hold of. Linen pants aren’t good for lounging as they wrinkle and would very quickly be destroyed by the cat’s claws. Yoga pants are the obvious choice but I don’t like tight or clingy clothes.
palazzo pants
The swishing around my legs drives me mad plus I can catch my foot and trip
Chinos? They don’t need (much) ironing and don’t wrinkle too badly. I hang mine on a coat hanger in the bathroom and spray with water in the evening, and by morning they’re “good enough”.
Stubbies?
Are these trousers for work or for lounging around at home?
For sleep, lounging and occasional doctors appointment
Edit: I’d just wear cotton sleep pants and play them off if they came in plain colours and didn’t have the telltale patterns.
I was going to get some of the Smeg recommended jogger pants but prefer something a bit more cool and comfortable, a little stretch to be more likely to fit off the rack. And fairly cheap because furry little hands pull threads.
Bonds actually had cotton trackpants many years ago that were cool and comfortable without showing too much of yourself. I used to really like Bonds but I stopped buying after the prices rose and they changed to weird ill fitting cuts
Are tracksuit shorts a thing for the ladies? I live in them in summer for lounging.
They are but I hate shorts
I have a pair of these https://ghanda.com/product/aysha-pants_black_16789. Wore them constantly last summer
They are a viscose linen blend, nice and soft to wear, breathable, and wrinkling is not extreme like with pure linen. If they are too long for you could hem them to ankle length or 3/4. Only down side is no pockets.
They look nice, but I don’t want to get something expensive because nice things don’t last long here.
I would wear my Boody lounge pants 24/7/365. https://www.boody.com.au/products/downtime-lounge-pants
They look good, but a bit out of budget!
Question time has been particularly spicy this week, starts at 2 if you want to listen in.
Anyone booked a permaculture consult? Any recs? We want to go ham on the yard, but I'd like a second opinion.
It might be worth contacting Ceres, they probably have some info
hmm, it's really not their deal though- they do education and base level stuff, but I've already got a degree in horticulture, and I know about complex systems, but I'm literally the only person in my social group with that knowledge. Hence looking for a consult - someone else on my level to come out and bang heads. (I freely admit my self confidence got absolutely broomhandled over this past year)
Isn't permaculture a lot of woo?
woo as in BS? uh no? It's basically making a self-sustaining ecosystem. You know, like the planet has been doing for billions of years.
Got the washing hung out just as it clouded over for real.
Hope the warm air and the wind finish the job.
So watching the news with the p's and the transport minister came on..
It was a moving speech.
IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS DIFFICULT
you need to train your p's better
That's just plane silly 😋
:)
(:
ears jumping inside. air pressure dropping.
That explains why Bill Cat was yelling at me. His hay fever is bad this year and he's scratched up his face so badly.
Rain and thunderstorms… kitty came running to hide under the blankets
Had the ten drops of rain.
it's here now 😺
Rain’s been skipping my suburb THE SUN IS SHINING i am going out for a little walk to summon the storm
9am and I've already walked the dog and finished off the tree planting I didn't get to yesterday 🙂 Hopefully I can get a decent amount of work in on the new garden beds before the weather gets too bad - at the moment it is lovely and sunny, and I'm going to try to enjoy every minute of it while it lasts. 🌞
I have cried aloud to the DT and there has perhaps been an answer?
&me Women's Rib Lounge Pants in plain beige or charcoal. They’re $18 each so I’d be worried about ruining them and the model is covering their bum with a long shirt so you can’t factor in the vpl situation. But the only other plain sleep pants I can find are very thin and light coloured, or made of modal (which some people can have itchy skin reactions to).
Edit: if the elastane makes them sweaty or the texture sucks I will break something
This wind is making me feel a bit crazy. So glad to be WFH tomorrow morning. Just want some peace and quiet.
So loud, but the plus side is it blow-dried my hair hahaha
So I got a lot of upvotes for my request for you all to help the many organisations ready willing and able to accept your support. But no comments. Someone has downvoted a lot of comments, like gone through my profile clicking. I mean it's very petty but this is the crap we endure and it's often after tv programs like the one which aired the other night. I won't reference it but my family members watched and it was a bit of a witch hunt. Now I have to waste time I should be chilling out in writing about it, challenging the garbage with family.
Racism gets squashed and called out for very good reason, but transphobes are allowed "an opinion" and people do not much to help. Getting my pronouns right will not help my friend obtain full time work. Being an "ally" means fighting alongside us in my opinion. The organisations will have much more measured dialogue, but I don't represent any of them. I volunteer with one of them, but I'm not allowed to speak on their behalf and am not bound by the same codes of ethics their paid staff are. I can't change this thing about myself any more than someone can change their heritage. Would you call someone out for saying disparaging things about a Yinnar man with very pale skin like one of my friends?
It's a serious issue world wide and people calling themselves "allies" just comes across as them feeling sorry for us a lot of the time. People still think we have a choice in the matter but the reality is you either allow yourself the incredible personal honesty required in the face of discrimination or you slowly die. 37% of young transgender people have attempted suicide, that's just the young ones who have been surveyed. but many many of us spend years thinking about it before diagnosis. Ask me how I know?
So, no one commented on my post about helping my community. I think I gave very clear options. Is everyone just going to sit on their hands? Plenty of upvotes but you see why I say people are all talk. I give people options to make a real difference and it's crickets.
I'm not angry or disappointed and this is not attacking anyone, we all have capacities and I don't expect people to drop everything to help. I wish I didn't need to have to explain all this stuff, but I feel obligated to. And just so you're aware, I was a volunteer being realising I was trans. I recognised something needed to be done and stepped up. I'm done, I have to go to work. Thx for reading... especially my downvoter, wasting your time is a privilege.
Nah.
You don't get to just blanket admonish us like that.
You have no idea what we do or don't do to support people who are trans. You have no idea if we are sitting on our hands. You have no idea if we are "all talk".
Trans struggle isn't the only struggle going on right now.
Trans issues aren't the number one priority for everyone.
You aren't angry, disappointed, or on the attack? You don't want us to drop everything to comment, volunteer or donate?
Then why did you post this diatribe?
Someone said "we want to help, how can we help?" I posted a quite thorough explanation of how to help but heard nothing back. I'm allowed to post my reaction to that. But now I'm the arsehole? I expected at least some discourse honestly.
I support you and the Trans community endlessly, but I cannot safely volunteer at those organisations nor put myself within the Trans community. I fear my ex is there, somewhere, and I know they transitioned (mtf) after we broke up; they raped, gaslit, and abused me in every way imaginable for 8 years. I cannot be a volunteer I'm sorry, but I'll be here supporting your journey, offsetting every downvote you get. You are amazing, and resilient, strong for posting this in the face of constant micro-aggressions and discriminations. You have my love always. I'm sorry I cannot do more than be a keyboard warrior for you.
I get that totally, thanks hun. Fuck that person in particular. I too fear a lot of what I should be able to call safe spaces. ie smith st. My abusers party there a lot.
I get you're angry and frightened - and with good bloody reason - but that post didn't invite commentary. Anyone who signed up new for those org would have done so off lemmy. Anyone who already works with them wouldn't have commented about it - that's rather ironically virtue signalling. There was literally nothing that required further discussion.
You're complaining about a lack of visibility that wasn't called for.
so many many big hugs,
it's so hard to work for freedoms and rights and better lives, and at the end of a week we are exhausted and we see no change
and it's perfectly right to be angry , but be angry at the abusers
there are so many things in society that need changing, so many people who need help, not just here but all over the world
no one can do it all, not even the most powerful people in the world can do it all, they can barely do anything
but together if we all do something, if we do anything, then the world will be a better place
I'm not angry with anyone here. Just left feeling alienated. The mods have been great. I think my point is valid and I'm definitely not the only trans person who feels like this. This was my original point about allies made kinda clear, many of feel like this honestly. I understand and stated I understand most people are already at capacity. But just getting people's pronouns right while nice and respectful isn't doing much either and we've had to fight for that. I can't keep removed here though, this whole exchange has made me realise I don't care for this place as much I once did. The fact is I'm the only person who is openly talking about being trans here and someone keeps downvoting ONLY my content. See above.
Exercises completed. Load of washing hung out. Minipeelers prepped for excursion. I've got to hit the ground running in the morning or I feel behind all day. We're having one of our big clean-up days at work where we dismantle and move and clean large plant equipment so I'm ready💪
Have done a beach walk, picked up my antihistamines and done an Aldi run.
Now to peel myself off the couch and into the shower...