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Defediverse

EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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Only lemmy could make a post about disagreeing with someone's view point about child porn
- I'm guessing its about tankies
  
  So many tankies on here, flat out support for the invasion of Ukraine, claiming that the west is less free than China, shitting on democracy/voting... So much shit.
  
  You forgot that every discussion about Ukraine/Russia is steered towards talking about US imperialism.
  
  One guy just kept posting a link to the Wikipedia page on American imperialism over and over in his comments.
  Talk about a one track mind.
  
  Well clearly if you didn't read my random Wikipedia article the first time then clearly you will by the tenth, right?
  
  It goes both ways though, anyone critical of US imperialism is quickly called a tankie. I'm happy Ukraine is getting help but it's annoying I constantly have to state that the moment I want to talk shit about the us military. Any kind of talk is becoming seriously toxic and the ones that are most vocal about hexbear users are usually just as bad.
  Screaming tankie at the top of your lungs is just as cringe as screaming lib imo
  
  Perhaps you haven't heard of the war and only noticed a lot of mentions of Ukraine recently. Actually, that's because there's a war there, that's why people keep bringing up Ukraine or showing their support for Ukraine, alternatively for Russia. The war is about USA imperialism, where the USA wants to do imperialism towards Russia and Russia is stopping them. So that's how those things are related. Ukraine is the battleground, and the USA is using Ukrainian humans as weapons. It's a very horrible situation.
  
  Yeah I wonder why, maybe it's because they are directly responsible for the current war. Maybe the US should stop arming extreme right wing groups whenever they want to destabilize a region like they did in Afghanistan and Iraq and in Ukraine prior to the war. Nato is proudly posting images of soldiers with the black sun on their uniforms on twitter but I guess that's completely irrelevant.
  
  maybe it's because they are directly responsible for the current war.
  "oh look what you made me do."
  
  Ukraine is a sovereign country and Russia has no claim to it. Defending Ukraine is the right thing to do and that's not debatable. Saving innocent lives and preventing further genocide is a good thing. I don't see why these fucking idiots have to gargle Putin's balls so much. Yes, America bad. We know. That's a problem for later. Right now children are being murdered by Russia. That's far more important to stop right now.
  
  Yeah I wonder why, maybe it's because they are directly responsible for the current war.
  Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia is responsible for the current war. Stop drinking the commie kool-aid.
  You can whine about NATO and geopolitics all you want, at the end of the day Russia could simply have chosen not to invade Ukraine and NATO would not be dumping the entire alliance's 40 year stockpile into the conflict.
  
  You libs are the absolute fucking worst. When did I say that the US is solely responsible? Ofcourse the majority of the blame lies with Russia and Putin, that doesn't excuse what the US has done to contribute to this war happening. And this isn't some new thing, they have been doing this for decades and constantly destabilizing other regions for their own profit. You should try for once to think a bit deeper about an issue than the absolute surface.
  
  No, not majority. ALL of the responsibility of this war is Russian, and specifically Putin's.
  It is pure propaganda to state or imply that anyone else is responsible for this war.
  
  Since when is it liberal to be opposed to Russia? It's been a conservative Western policy since the Cold War.
  You said "directly responsible," which means all or most of the blame in a given situation. No one uses American English to claim something is directly responsible but not also majority responsible.
  Also, I never even actually said that you claimed the US was solely responsible. I just said Russia was solely responsible, because they chose to invade. If you're conceding you meant the US is solely responsible though and are walking back that inane argument, understood, but maybe just stop licking Putin's boot and go read a history book for fucks sake.
  
  You said "directly responsible," which means all or most of the blame in a given situation.
  No it doesn't, it means exactly what it says. The actions of the US directly led to the war.
  I just said Russia was solely responsible, because they chose to invade.
  Completely oblivious take. Tell me why did the US arm and train ultra rightwing groups in ukraine well before the war started? Going as far back as 2013. What was the goals there exactly? You should take your own advice and read a history book cuase the US has been destabilizing regions like this for a while. And every single time it has led to war in the region where they did it. So yes, the US is directly responsible, because this is exactly what they wanted.
  just stop licking Putin's boot
  Is this supposed to mean anything? I've never said a positive thing about Putin in my life. Two things can be bad at once, trying to boil everything down to "Russia bad, NATO good" is completely disingenuous. Furthemore it's detached from reality. Both are bad, a critque of NATO and the US for the part they played in making tha war happen isn't absolution for Russia invading and escalating it to war.
  And the reason all that is important is because, like I said, this isn't anything new. The US has been doing the same thing for decades and will keep doing it as long as people like you keep ignoring it and spouting such nonsensical takes.
  
  Tankies: omg desu putins cock is so kawaii uwu big mean imperial western devils make my puty cock all wilty uwuu~~
  
  Just have a reasonable conversation with them.
  
  That’s really not possible, and I have tried.
  
  Lol
  
  This was the response I was expecting. Idk, maybe I’ll just start out my sarcastic comments with “hey y’all, just so you know, the following comment is meant to be read sarcastically, lol, hope you enjoy”
  
  Yeah I guessed, but wasn't sure.
  
  Recognising sarcasm depends a lot on tone of voice in spoken conversations, thus a tradition in internet discussions has developed to put a /s behind the statement that is intended to be sarcasm. The slash is in imitation of closing HTML tags, i.e. it is to be read as "end of sarcasm". Putting it behind instead of before the sarcasm grants the added benefit of many people still falling for it at first.
  
  The only conversation I'm fine having is how much you want, then shove a fist up their ass.
- If it's the defederation BS I'm thinking of it was regarding a specific model for whom they'd already age verified and the one instance admin was simply still not okay with it because they looked too young. Which like, that's their choice as an instance admin, but also that's a pretty kneejerk reaction to defederate and immediately announce the defederation
  
  ...... that was from over a month ago. Doubt it. Also I'm not sure that anyone has enough info to know if it was a bad call or not but it was not very recent considering how many defederations have been discussed since.
- Wtf? Is that where your brain goes? Like genuinely, seek help.

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