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Started watching Adam Something for the urban planning. Watched one of his videos on geopolitics. Never watched him again
"I'm a reformed alt-right guy who likes trains I promise!"
Proceeds to present fascist talking points.
“SocDem” more like SucDem Nutz
This meme is wrong. Overwhelming most of succdems would not have the lower wojak moment, they would double down and defend all those.
“socdem” has been permanently associated with Bernie in my brain, and seeing what Social Democrats have been historically gives me major whiplash
Bernie would be forced to do all that if he were President though, or he'd be removed. His senate voting record isn't particularly clean either.
Socdems gonna socdem. They'll always betray the working class whenever they have to make a choice between classes.
This sounds about right although I'll add that the only people who become president, etc, are those whose views already align with the ruling class. He wouldn't so much need forcing, because he'll see a lot of the bad decisions as 'necessary, reasonable compromises'.
Corbyn was a little similar. (Although he was much better on foreign affairs in general than Bernie,) He accepted Starmer's argument about a second Brexit vote and lost the 'red wall' trying to win over the centrist remainer swing voters. (Although it's now clear that Starmer didn't believe in this and was simply setting Corbyn up to fail.)
The same kind of logic is relevant today, highlighted by a controversy over a film that was due to be played at the Glastonbury music festival. The film, apparently, looks at how anti-Semitism was weaponised against Corbyn. (I've not seen it, so I'm only commenting on the commentary.) Glastonbury cancelled the showing after loads of bad press, some from a guy called Paul Mason, a possible spook who pretends to be on 'the left'.
Anyway, the interesting thing is that the saga has shown that the British left may really be full of anti-Semites. For two days while this has been kicking off, the 'British left' has been saying that Corbyn's downfall was orchestrated by the 'Israel lobby'.
jfc, Corbyn's support for Palestine clearly ruffled some pro-Israel feathers but the idea that Israel or the 'Board of Deputies' were the sole force behind the attacks on Corbyn is, well, anti-Semitic. Even if the people saying it are saying 'Israel/Zionists'.
There were loads of people out to get Corbyn and his supporters. The fact that one of the Jewish groups that didn't want him in power is getting almost all the blame for keeping him out of power is … not a great look (regardless of whether the film makes this claim since commentators have made it in defence of the film).
Is it beyond the realm of possibility that pro-Israel voices simply aligned with those of the British/US/European bourgeoisie? Or is the 'British left' just filled with feds and actual anti-Semites? FWIW most of this 'left' are liberals of one form or another. And there probably aren't many anti-Semites who support(ed) Corbyn; he just had a lot of support from people who weren't the most politically literate but liked his message. And that lack of political literacy (and class consciousness) has led to some terrible takes.
To bring it back to the comment I'm replying to… it's the same thing again but in reverse: when a politician refuses to be forced to do the bidding of the bourgeoisie, they won't be allowed near power. (But it's not 'Jews' who will prevent the ascent to power even if some Jews vocally oppose the candidate.)
(I'm curious as to what others think of my assessment. I don't pay much attention to British electoral politics, but this is currently playing out on Twitter, and some MSM, etc, and I can't say all this elsewhere. I'd be particularly interested if anyone thinks any of what I've said is accidentally antisemitic—it wasn't my intention, and I'll delete/amend if so.)
Bernie "Bomb Yugoslavia" Sanders fits right in the lower part.