Bodycam: Pregnant woman accused of shoplifting shot by police
Bodycam: Pregnant woman accused of shoplifting shot by police | CNN
Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.
This is murder.
So some neckbeard republicans are going to come out and say "She should have just complied", but honestly what is the absolute worst scinerio if she WAS shop-lifting? In what world is it not a better option to just get her FUCKING CAR'S license-plate number, track her to her house, then arrest her there when she's clearly cornered? Or just boot her car when it's found again and force her to come to you to get it off?
Because now you've killed a woman and her unborn baby over some God damn groceries.
The headline "Pregnant lady caught shoplifting groceries; arrested" would already be telling of a society that has gone far over the edge.
In this timeline, the edge is so far gone that it's faded into myth.
I thought it was alcohol?
If this is a jurisdiction that says embryos are people then that cop executed a completely innocent person.
Shhh... don't point out their own hypocrisy
That would require logical consistency. I would never accuse a republican of such a thing.
Same exact neck beard republican removed is removed about the injustice of arresting the good boys for Jan 6th.
What I want to do is make a satirical video game about complying perfectly with a police officer's requests, and show just how hard it is.
Throw in mixups where the player might be confronted by armed criminals, just to make sure players instill themselves with a sense of self-preservation.
Okay but at that point shoot the tyres??
The argument will be that she was trying to use her car as a deadly weapon because she accelerated into an officer standing in front of the car.
Which falls apart when you watch the cops body cam footage and see that never even happened
Unsurprisingly you have downvotes too.
Or, you could deal with the issue when and where it arises? Seriously, some of the commenters here are trying to rewrite history.
She drove at a police officer dude.
She drove away from a police officer who intentionally stepped out in front of the car.
Also that's some grade a level hypocrisy right there.
I pretty sure she drove her car into a wall because she was bleeding to death. I don't think that was really a decision.
Probably thought they were going to kill her anyway, since cops be doing that on the regular.
she should have just complied,
I'm surprised there isn't an automod bot to filter out cliche comments exactly like this
The hell is wrong with this country. Shoplifting is not violent crime. If they flee put out an arrest warrant and they'll turn up later, in a lot more trouble.
Cops are well aware standing in front of a car gives them a free pass killing someone who attempts to escape. It's totally unnecessary pointless murder.
It’s totally unnecessary pointless murder.
It's an execution. Someone accused of a crime doesn't get a trial or a chance to defend themselves. Someone with a gun makes a decision to end their life on the spot.
Cops are well aware standing in front of a car gives them a free pass killing someone who attempts to escape.
Not to mention, standing in front of a car driven by a POC who has every reason to expect the cops to shoot them anyway. That person is already frightened and likely panicked and not thinking clearly. Putting yourself in front of a car with a panicked driver who is justifiably in fear for their life is incredibly stupid.
Also, what is with cops just repeating the same command over and over again and refusing to otherwise interact with the person. Are they trying to make the situation worse? Why not try and de-escalate the situation. Oh, that's right, they want a reason to shoot people.
Are they trying to make the situation worse?
Yes, because it lets them use lethal force like the jack booted thugs they want to be.
Cops are well aware standing in front of a car gives them a free pass killing someone
This "technique" has been demonstrated enough that frankly, I think that any rational person would conclude that in any situation where a cop walks in front of your car, you're better off just gunning it before the cop has a chance to extrajudicially execute you first. If they walk in front of your car, it's clear they're just itching to murder you. The threat has been made, you should fear for your life. It's you or them.
That's not unreasonable. Maybe under Montana common law argument would work.
That's what happens when your cops aren't trained in de-escalation.
Also keep in mind, businesses usually have insurance against theft.
To anyone saying she tried to run over the officer, please watch the body cam footage. She is turning the wheel as much as possible to steer the vehicle away from the officer. On top of that, she pulled forward very slowly. If you were trying to run someone over, you would not give them every opportunity to avoid being hit by the vehicle.
Stop licking boots
I do not understand why it is so common for police in this country to stand in front of a car and then shoot the driver when the car moves. It's a manufactured danger and really does not seem like a smart idea to use your weapon to put a corpse in control of a heavy machine.
What's not to understand? Their goal is the expression of power, the suspect's escape is completely non optional to them. They are not trained in de-escalation.
So, by placing their body on the line (in the path of the giant metal machine), they are essentially saying "obey me, or you are willing to kill me if you try to escape". So if you try to escape, you are willing to kill them. So if you are willing to kill them, they are free to defend themselves.
It is crazy, but consistent logic.
Remember they aren't there to help, or protect, but to enforce.
They stand in front so that they can shoot the driver.
You can't play chicken with someone and then shoot them if you get scared. You have to either swerve or get hit, that's why it's called chicken.
They don’t care as long as they get to murder someone.
You do understand why. What you said is exactly why. They are manufacturing a danger so that they are legally allowed to use lethal force against anyone for any small crime. All the police do in the USA is escalate, escalate, escalate
Because they can, and bootlickers will make excuses for them
Getting shot over shoplifting is insane.
The usa is fucked beyond saving
I'm fine with enacting a quarantine across the entire united states and allowing those who want to leave to leave
She got shot over driving at a police officer standing in front of her car. The fact that it escalated to that is a pretty bizarre series of events though.
She got shot over driving at a police officer standing in front of her car.
Framed differently, a cop moved in front of her car for an excuse to shoot her. He could just as easily NOT have moved in front of the car and/or have taken a step back like any normally functioning human being would have done.
Sounds like that officer hates unborn babies
Your take is scummy and delusional. I don't envy the world you've constructed around you that's so blind and ignorant towards reality
OK cop
American fascists continue to prove their belief that property damage isn't an acceptable response to murder, but murder is an acceptable response to property damage.
Couldn’t have said it any better
The social contract is breaking.
Woman scared for her life because officers immediately pointed guns at her for no reason is proven correct when killed by officers for no reason. Just another day in America. Cops just love pulling their guns and using them for no good reason. The only time a cop should be pointing a gun at someone like this is if their life is in immediate danger from that person.
How would society feel if these weren't cops? If a guy just runs up to your car pointing a pistol at your head you aren't going to be calm and rational. It's bullshit we expect anyone to be.
You can't justify her running from the cops, that was wrong but no where near as wrong as killing her for doing so
I mean, I kinda can. We've all seen too many videos where police officers pull people out of cars in these situations, she was pregnant.... People of color end up dead on the ground outside of that car even if they did nothing wrong, all the time. Even more commonly they get thrown around and beaten. Pregnant woman don't normally want to get thrown around or beaten.
Uhh no I can 100% justify running from cops. Some of them are totally unhinged with a total lack of accountability.
This incident is exactly why that's justified. Her life was in danger, that cop was clearly itching for a reason to kill her or he wouldn't have stepped in front of the car. She ran because it was probably her best chance of not getting killed
How should this have been handles instead? If she really really doesn't want to comply, You write down her license place, and you let her go.
That simple.
You have her face on video, you have the license plate, it's trivial to then go visit her at her home and have a talk. Hell, follow her if you have to, but not in a high speed chase. Just keep your distance, let her go where she wants to go until she's done.
Worst case scenario, you just let her go.
This extreme focus on that every petty little thing MUST be stopped, every small time offender MUST comply only ends in this. Suffering.
Instead focus on fixing poverty and you know, making sure that pregnant women have all they need so that they don't need to steal? That is why we banned abortion, no? Because we care about babies?
Oh yeah that's right. We care about unborn fetuses, but born babies can get fucked.
Let this woman have an abortion if she can't afford a baby. Now she doesn't need to shoplift, at least not for the baby
Lift people out of poverty. Push people to be better educated. THOSE are things that will actually lower crime rates but then it means they ml o longer are the common pulp that can stand on
That is why we banned abortion, no? Because we care about babies?
No, we banned abortion to keep controlling women and make sure they keep their head low and their financial situation lower. And it works so well that they have to shoplift, in which case we can justify killing them. Mission accomplished!
Honestly, fuck humanity.
It's also a massive waste of money and resources that could be used to fight actual, real crime.
I'm guessing the time and ammo it took to kill her amounts to more dollars lost than she could ever shoplift for. Did the store get their money back? No? Then what the fuck was the point? Who was actually helped that day?
The point of having police is to make society livable. This seems to be the opposite of that.
Worth noting that the car didn't have plates according to the Police.
Hardly the Police job to solve poverty?
This 21 Year old has a 6 and 3 year old sons. I'll let you do the math on that. But it adds up to before some states had bans.
Regardless. They should not have drawn their guns since she didn't pose any immediate threat.
Regardless. Fact of the matter is that the situation only escalated after the police drew their weapons.
Regardless, her trying to run one of the cops down is only going to end 1 way.
This 21 Year old has a 6 and 3 year old sons. I'll let you do the math on that. But it adds up to before some states had bans.
First of all, red states made it next to impossible to get abortions even when it was legal. Also, they cost money. Contrary to apparent popular belief, George Soros or the DNC don't just appear to fund every abortion. Or, sometimes people are Catholic, which is fucking stupid, but maybe there's some family shit you don't know about. Especially for a minor trying to get an abortion. Again, contrary to popular belief, they weren't just being handed out for free on every corner to every 16 year old who wanted one. There were still a million obstacles long before the Dobbs decision.
Second, "I'll let you do the math" is a judgey, self-righteous, and gross statement.
It's indeed not the job for the police to solve poverty and I'm sure this woman has her problems.
None of that excuses what happened. They should never have pulled their guns. That police officer should not have been standing in front of the car. The woman tried to run away, nit murder a cop. The officer was standing in the most dangerous nokace he could, I'm arguing that that was in purpose. "I'll stand where if you make a move you might kill me, giving me reason to shoot you"
Even that car not having license plates excuses anything. Then follow her, distantly. She'll stop somewhere, pick her up there.
Hell, even letting her go is preferable to this outcome. It doesn't matter that his woman had kids since she was 15, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter that she is poor, uneducated, it's all irrelevant.
The point is that police in the US is horribly educated, and has a terrible culture. They need to be educated for years, not 6 months. They need to get a culture of "we are to protect and serve" instead of "we are Rambo Cowboy". They need to learn to calm and deescalate every situation they arrive in, not always make shit worse
I'm just relieved that the property was protected.
The shareholders would lose 0.000000001% profit
You joke, but this number is probably still too high. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if shareholders technically lost money due to the interruption of potential customers by all the commotion.
The hitting a cop with a car part
I wonder if the cop will be prosecuted for providing an unlawful abortion.
I mean, could he not just have taken the license plate number then sent agents to go knock on her door later? This is shoplifting, not armed robbery.
She drove forward with the officer directly in front of the vehicle. Regardless of what happened previously, thats an action that could kill someone.
The cop deliberately walked in front of her car and pointed a gun at her. She panicked. I'd probably panic too if someone pointed a gun at me. Granted, I probably wouldn't have drove forward, but it was entirely possible for the cop to not have walked in front of her car, for him not to have pulled a gun. It seems like him pulling the gun is what caused this.
As the fetus is now legally a person and did nothing wrong the officer who fired the shots should be arrested for homicide.
So double murder and illegal abortion too.
I bet you could probably trick some pro lifers into pursuing this. There's enough true believers.
If it's not obvious those rules are in place to punish women. Not to protect. They will never ever be applied in a protective way. That's not what they were made for.
Is this where society is heading? Rampant theft resolved with murder to save corporations?
To them, this probably sounds easier than lowering prices, reducing CEO’s millions in pay and propping up stock prices.
The governor of Florida and presidential hopeful said looters will be shot on sight. So no, it's not where we're headed because we've passed that destination and it's normal. Property is firmly above people.
There’s a reason why Militech and Arasaka are the biggest players in the cyberpunk rpg universe. Once corporatocracy reigns supreme and public funding is gone they reap profits off private security, as intended. We’re just now seeing the horizon of “defund the police” becoming “hire a PMC as your ‘police force’”
Yes. To get back to normality, we must pass through this extreme, which is the necessary counter to defunding and demonizing the police as opposed to holding only the bad ones responsible for their actions. We'll be in this state until we remove qualified immunity. So it will probably take a while.
that's some nazi ass bullshit right there holy shit
Oh yeah, sure, they increase prices because of "theft." They're honest corporations who would never increase prices for another reason like greed or price gouging.
That's fucking horrible.
First off, I wish they would show the full uncut raw footage. People need to see the reality of getting shot.
Second, he literally just pulls the gun out and says "get out of the car." Like, what the fuck man? Get out of the car or I'm going to shoot you? For stealing from a fucking kroger? One of the biggest businesses in the US?
Dude. This is bullshit. He needs criminal charges.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ending_Qualified_Immunity_Act
If you want this to stop, force your representatives to finally vote this into law.
You don't even need to shoot them, just get a couple dozen of ya boys and arm up and open carry.
Black Panthers did it and cops stopped patrolling their neighborhoods, which is what the BP wanted.
Republicans got so fucking scared, Reagan, their fucking NeoLiberal Gawd, passed gun control laws!
Seriously tho, we need more open 2A leftists
How do you think this approach will end, genius?
We need some real brave mothsfuckers for that... But it is something I want to see too.. some real push back against the bullies.... I can't understand how it hasn't started yet
As someone who lived in Dallas at the time, shooting back does effect change. It's anecdotal but encounters with police really seemed to be less confrontational following this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016shootingofDallaspoliceofficers
Are you really that far off the deep end?
force your representatives to finally vote this into law.
Lol. We'd have to vote for new reps. And as soon as we do, the ruling class just spends more money on campaigns to make sure we don't get any power.
Just the fact she has to shoplift probably also means she has very little money or is struggling to get buy on her sallery. She's getting a baby soon and is maybe trying to save up because the US has no proper help to offer. Being shot and murdered by the police for a relatively harmles crime is beyond crazy for a society to accept. The policeman should be arrested for murder and abuse of power and Final put behind bars
She was falsely accused of shoplifting. She didn't actually do it.
True point. The whole scenario is written in such a bad way in the article its completely glossed over, and even I missed that fact. It just makes the whole mess even worse. It could have been anyone that got shot here just for being scared by threatening police officers who are escalating the situation
Just the fact she has to shoplift probably also means she has very little money or is struggling to get buy on her sallery.
As much as I don't think this woman should've been shot, shoplifting isn't usually done by people who "need/have" to and it's also usually items that aren't necessities. Ask anyone who works at an Ulta or makeup section of a department store. In fact, I watched a lady run out of an Ulta into a car that sped off who, according to employees, stole a bunch of perfume and they told me and my girlfriend they were likely going to resell the perfume online.
If you see a pregnant woman anyone shoplifting, no the fuck you didn't.
properly ran companies have insurance and also factor theft into their loss for the year. People need to eat to survive and corporations are literally tearing our world apart.
So again if you see someone shoplifting, especially necessities, no you didn’t.
(Also this is a Kroger, it’s a giant supermarket chain. If you stole full shopping cart everyday it would still affect no one monetarily)
Elon, please.
OMG, I saw this story on FB, AND every fucking comment was praising the cop! Telling her she deserved it for trying to run away.. things like she would have been a terrible mom anyways.. just some awful things while the run their hard ons for the cops... It was sickening... I am 23 weeks pregnant with my second son right now and watching people praise her death because she stole something is so bizarre and jarring... I'm pregnant... What if this was a misunderstanding and he had bad information.. she didn't steal a thing and scared of cops tried to get away and now she is dead.... Cops are fuckiing scary but not as much as people who want this outcome for stealing some groceries
Edit: some of these comments defending the cop, who put his life in danger on his own so he could have the excuse to kill her, is chilling.... You are the reason I made my comment and the reason why I am getting scared of my community.. because too many of the people in society want to see someone from some group they hate, hurt or dead by police.... Fucking sickening. Shoplifting is not an excuse to use lethal force to stop anyone.. the punishment doesn't fit the crime.. people saying it does, are rabid dogs who wish it was them in the cops shoes, feeling powerful.. and that's even more sickening. She left behind a 6 year old because thd pig couldnt have figured out another way to handle the situation.. he failed a basic IQ test and too many people are like.. "Kay, cool". Idiocracy was and is a fucking a documentary and y'all just want a gladiator type entertainment with your own people
Well that's a shity outlook when the cop was trying stage a suicide to have a reason to fire his gun... again he put him self there by choice, he could have chose to move aside and track her.. but he chose a method that he could abuse for the reason to fire his gun and punish her for testing his authority.... Is sad you can't see or understand that.. or that you are okay with being shot.... But during the protests, when people would zoom their cars in to.the crowds to get away from the people, was totally justified.. the irony is insane...
Yeah wtf, she should have left a thin blue streak on the asphalt
Trying to run over an officer, you mean? She didn't just try and run away, she drove directly towards a police officer.
You really need to reevaluate your thinking if you think untrained civilians have a higher burden than supposedly trained professionals, especially after watching that video
Don't they spend like 1000 hours training people about all the safety precautions of a standard road stop, since it has about a dozen dangers - and "standing directly in front of a suspect's vehicle" ranks somewhere among the dumbest things you can do?
Heck, I caution myself against doing it even when walking around the city, even if all I want to do is warn someone about an obstacle. I'm no freaking roadblock.
She cranked the wheel all the way away from him. She was trying to go around. Officer "no self preservation" was a dipshit and blocked in a two ton machine with his own body.
not very pro life if you ask me
Not a peep from the anti-choicers on this.
That's because they're mostly racist bootlickers and see no problem here.
The good guy with a gun once again saves the day by shooting a pregnant woman.
God bless America.
Cops are almost never the good guy.
And seldom ever is anyone with a gun the good guy.
That title in this situation I think goes to the unarmed ambulance front liners if we're going brass tacks.
How do I hide these images?
They're very obnoxious.
No, her crime was trying to run someone over. Seriously?
Why did the cop get in front of her car?
Did you notice she turned the wheel as much as possible to specifically avoid hitting the cop that walked in front of her car and pulled a gun out?
This is way worse than murder. 'Normal' murderers dont swear to protect citizens before killing them.
Fun fact, they actually have no duty whatsoever to protect people :D
"In the 1981 case Warren v. District of Columbia, the D.C. Court of Appeals held that police have a general "public duty," but that "no specific legal duty exists" unless there is a special relationship between an officer and an individual, such as a person in custody.
The U.S. Supreme Court has also ruled that police have no specific obligation to protect. In its 1989 decision in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the justices ruled that a social services department had no duty to protect a young boy from his abusive father. In 2005'sCastle Rock v. Gonzales, a woman sued the police for failing to protect her from her husband after he violated a restraining order and abducted and killed their three children. Justices said the police had no such duty. "
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/do-the-police-have-an-obligation-to-protect-you/
There's also of course the case with the Uvalde school shooting where not only did cops wait outside for hours as students were being picked off, but prevented parents from going in to try to get their kids out.
ACAB
I’ve seen this before and I think it is worth adding some context too.
Let’s start with, yea, it leads to absurd result like the clown show in uvalde where I wouldn’t trust that police force to rescue cats from trees.
But… the other way you can’t have a right to a scarce resource (police protection). Police calls while not exactly random can’t be accurately predicted. It doesn’t make sense for a police force to be liable for failing to protect when they might literally not have the ability to protect. Or, through chance, there are no police officers that can get to the location in time.
Instead, the point is to rely on the police wanting to actually do their job and have a legal doctrine accordingly. But in our culture it seems that perhaps that is not necessarily a warranted assumption anymore.
every country has cars and police
Yes, but they also have educated and trained police. Here, a candidate must meet the requirements for university, be fit, and psychologically stable before he or she can start a training of three to five years.
Being police is more than just be intimidating and knowing which end of a gun is.the business end.
Hell, knowing your taser from your gun is too much to ask.
Actually this would be double murder. Now that fetuses are considered full human beings, remember abortions being murder? This is a double murder.
Eh, then again I'm sure that because this was a police officer, Republicans wont care. We must obey the police!
"Shoplifting" Technically the correct term but the store named is Kroger. That's a grocery store if you don't know. Doubt this pregnant woman was stealing jewelry.
If you steal a bread it's still shoplifting.
Then again, she was accused of shoplifting, not judged. So she isn't even a shoplifter z she was a suspect at best.
Her unborn child should have had a gun, then it could have shot the cop first
What I see here is a cop trained to shoot to kill at the slightest chance.
I mean, if I ever visit this country and a policeman interacts with me I will pee my pants. Literally*.
*You know, like what "literally" meant in the old times.
No, actually the total opposite.
This is yet another example of a police officer getting minimal training, 6 months and here you have a gun, now go be Rambo. Coooool!
In North western Europe, police officers require good education to even be able to start their police officer education. Then it's 4 years of learning to get to a point that they can call themselves a basic police officer.
Wanna go anything beyond that? Be a detective? More schooling.
In the US they explicitly filter on getting dumber people, they give no adequate training at all, don't tech them de-escalation, etc.
Couple that with a police force that has a ver "we protect eachother over protecting them"
Couple that with a culture that is much more authoritive. Freedom? Hah! Obey! That kid smokes a joint? Toss him in jail!
Couple that with a justice system that is much more focussed on punishment instead of rehabilitation.
Couple that with an endless supply of guns out in the street.
Seriously, how is anyone surprised that this shit happens all the time?
I just have to say, 100% of my interactions with the police have been nothing but on the up and up.
I just have to say, mine have not, and I'm a straight white male.
What absolute horseshit.
Or comply and die anywho.
That's horrible. It would be bad for public health to leave corpses rotting in the street. Bodies need to be properly disposed of to avoid breeding dangerous bacteria.
I believe one thing about UK policing is correct. Unless there's reason for officers to be armed, they're not even carrying guns. I realize that's untenable in the US because of the proliferation of handguns but here in Canada, I think it should be policy.
Wouldn't work here, for the simple fact that there aren't more guns than UK citizens in the UK.
No one should be shooting at tires, that isn't as easy as they make it in the movies (in this case yes it would have been). However, you should NEVER point a gun at something you do not intend to kill.
Yeah and let's not forget this was simple shoplifting. A crime, sure, but not nearly one serious enough to start shooting at a fleeing suspect. Just let her go and issue a warrant.
WTF? I'm thinking of many different ways that this could be handled instead of killing a woman and her unborn baby. Geez!
Maybe shoot the tire first? JFC.
Yeah assaulting someone using words can really hurt. The police suffered so much pain they had to protect themselves from this dangerous woman
/s if anyone needs it
just discharge your whole load into a woman.
Not sure if horrible news story, or porn.
Kinda difficult when you're on the bonnet of the car, because the driver is trying to run you over.
That dumb fucker put himself intentionally in harm's way, and I'd have a really difficult fucking time believing that it wasn't with the hope that the car would move the tiniest bit so he could shoot her.
you're all over this post like it's your job to paint the victim as the aggressor, hmmmmm......
He got in front of the car on purpose of his own volition then pulled out the gun and shot her.
She was trying to avoid him, which is why she turned her wheel as much as possible to drive around him.
Cowards love guns.
Dave Grossman, a graduate of the school of killology. It's in the title ffs. This is what's being taught to our 'protectors'.
Can't wait for this to blow over in two weeks. People need to start physically fighting against the departments that allow this stuff to happen.
This is run of the mill for Ohio cops. I grew up there, I've seen it all my life. They are a reckless, racist, violent group of thugs with the mentality of the KGB. If you're ever so unfortunate as to find yourself there, and in the presence of one, LEAVE. don't do a fuckin thing that might garner their attention.
They're also fanatical about pulling people over, they'll pull you over for ANYTHING. and if you're not the whitest of white, you're gonna have a real bad time.
just... just don't go to Ohio.
Is there a /c/jesuschristlemmy yet? This would be a worthy starter post.
Gotchu fam: !jesuschristlemmy@lemmus.org
What the fuck is wrong with you
I actually think this a decent piece of left-leaning humor, if a bit dark.
It makes light of an awful thing that happened (the shooting) and then links it to another awful thing that's happening (abortion bans in America).
It kind of highlights the absurdity of it all.
It's like jokes about racism. Decent people know that the jokes are mocking racist people and showing the absurdity, while racists just laugh at the racism part because they don't get it.
Far less than whatever is happening in the post.
What the fuck is wrong with your sense of humor?
If you see some store security dork following people to their cars, make sure you trip them or hit them with a shopping cart.
There have reports of people dressed as police officers kidnapping people exactly this way as well.
Is the goal to get shot?
what of the officer? will they pass go? the article doesn't say
Time off with pay until this is resolved, then they get to go back to work like nothing happened.
If it's the usual anyway.
Just, fuck.....
How many times am I going to see this article.
What i cannot understand about USA is that they cover as racism, police problems what it is in every other countries labelled as ethnic conflict. They have an empire and multiple ethnicities that hate each others. One of them happear to be black. And they talk about exceptionalism when they are exactly as every other country.
I don't believe for a second that she was "trying " to run over the cop. She just wanted to leave and he put himself in harms way. He could have very easily stepped to the side and not murder her and her unborn child.
Yeah, that will be the cop's defense, she was attempting to assault the cop with a deadly weapon.
Still fucking shitty though. If they really wanted to stop her from leaving, just park the police cruiser in front of her car. Or let her leave and get her tags. They had options. Maybe her family will sue since the cop stepped in front of the car.
Her family will sue, and win, for deprivation of life. The city will foot the bill, paid for by taxpayers. The police will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing, and will face no penalty from the civil suit. Check back in a few weeks where we'll do this again!
She cranked the wheel all the way to the right prior to moving. She was trying to go around the cop.
She was trying to do the world a favor.
I'll agree that a gross majority of american police is deserving of simply being fired and criminally accused of any number of crimes but there are good people working as police and the option to not have police, at all, would lead to even worse results than this.
It's a country with a very long and convoluted relation with firearms. The entire american ethos still echoes around the image of the cowboy and pioneer pushing troubles aside and delivering justice at gun point.
Remove the police and you'd see the rise of private "security" and people mowing down each other in broad day light.
No, she was not. The car only moved when she died.
Unpopular take. This seems like a very grey case without a clear right and wrong based on the actions of the accused shoplifter in driving the car. I think there were some questionable split second decisions on both sides.
People shouldn't die over shoplifting. It's pretty clear this shooting was about not about the supporting, but 2 decisions made during the apprehension. 1. The suspect not surrendering and attempting to drive away. 2. The officer standing in front of the car to block egress making a decision when the car moved forward and making contact with his body.
To folks saying the cop could have stepped out of the way or not been there, Id be curious what department training states an officer should do when apprehending a suspect in a parked vehicle. Did the officer follow training and protocol?
You're right. That is unpopular.
The officer should have gave a damn about his own life and hers and not stepped in front of a car that could run him over.
What's the protocol and training? Did he follow it? Did the woman have any responsibility to surrender to the police? The video looks like it was a bad cascade of multiple parties making bad split second decisions.
It is murder, and the Biden Boomer DoJ won't do anything about it as always
