1y ago

Could use some help building around this Soma prime riven

Right now I'm using Gyre to make it an "AoE" weapon with Cathode Grace/Rotorswell/Cathode Current, since this always crits, but single targets are intended to be killed by slash procs. I'm using a Panzer Vulpaphyla for Viral primer. I stacked base damage for the Hunter Munitions slash procs. I'm using Primary Merciless with the intention of bleed effect kills counting, but I'm not sure if they proc Primary Merciless or not. Incarnon mode feels like it shortens TTK but not by an extreme amount.

The riven's effects on the current build are visible in the display.

Some specific questions:

Should I be using Hata-Satya here? What would you remove?

Thoughts on what I should subsume over Gyre's 1? Tharros Strike seems redundant with the concept of slash procs even though it turns things into swiss cheese anyway. Roar is a staple (and I guess it would help rotorswell), but is there something else? Maybe Nourish for viral and using a sentinel companion for the vigilante set's chance to enhance critical hits? Of course I don't have Grendel yet so that'll be a bit of a chore :)

Are there other warframes that might work better to make up for Soma's single target style?

Should I swap out Critical Delay, since the riven on its own puts me at 93.4% crit (plus Cathode Grace), or is the extra 60% for 7.9x normal/8.8x incarnon worth it?

Is the riven as good as it seems, or would you re-roll? What would you look for?

I don't think the status is high enough for the new cold procs to help, or I would consider those.

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My initial thought is take serration off and put the riven and hammer shot on there. You'll have a bunch of crit chance with that riven so the extra crit damage is good, plus extra status will help with galvanized aptitude.
Depending on how much you're using the incarnon form, taking hunter munitions off and putting fire rate on would be higher DPS, but that's maybe a personal decision.
Putting more viral or some other element on the gun might make sense if you're keeping hunter munitions but that's also going to depend on how you use it.
- Thanks - I don't have hammer shot yet, but a friend of mine suggested essentially the same thing. I'm not using the incarnon form very much.

Hata-Satya
Hata-Satya is not very useful here imo, it is most useful when you don't have enough critical chance.
Gyre subsume
I personally subsumed Pillage for my Gyre to give her a bit more survivability. If it's not your concern, then Roar can't go wrong. The deciding factor of Nourish for me is whether the frame would run into energy problem, and my playstyle of Gyre won't so it's up to you. I would only consider the viral aspect if I find the need for a specific sentinel/pet. Vigilante set also seemed a bit exuberant to me, but more damage is more damage ¯(ツ)_/¯
Alternative frames
Right off the back of my head, Mirage seems to be the next best candidate for "AOE" Soma, then Saryn or Grendel since they spread viral on their own. I personally like gunplay with Chroma and Wisp, since both buff guns to stupid levels and allow you to ignore everything else to focus on gunplay.
Critical Delay
I'd say It mostly depend on whether you would use the incarnon mode. I quite like it so I have both Critical Delay and critical chance on my riven.
Riven
I personally don't like the -dmg to Corpus, but other than that, it seems pretty good.
Cold procs
The recent cold status tweak is still to young for people to discover it's potential. If we want to utilize that, we would be building around Frostbite, I recommend this video from Gamble if you want to dig deeper into it.
- Putting Pillage on would reduce the reliance on hunter munitions.

Also I'm not sure about galvanized aptitude here. I get viral from the panzer, electric from gyre, and slash from the soma, and on rare occasion one other one from the soma.
- Galv Apt is staying, if anything it should be Serration that comes off, but there's not a lot of choice in its stead, maybe a 60/60 heat for another status? Or go crazy and put Hata-Satya there? Primed Shred can't go wrong either. The build seems quite solid as it is now so idk

riven ideally would have a third stat like FR or Tox, but it looks slotable
rule of thumb with soma is hata saya OR critical delay. in your case, removing critical delay for riven is prob the way to go. you'll hit 100% without it.
dont mix serration with g.apt and merciless. remove serration. add primed shred if you have it, alternatively viral 6060s. def keep galv galv riven vital bane hm. gives you two slots to play with. panzer is insufficient for priming, but nourish can work. primed shred would be great but you'd lose one of the viral mods.
- as for gyre she benefits from strip since electric sucks against high armor. pillage is popular. nourish can work too. roar might lack survivability but could be fun for controlled settings
- I think I have primed shred. I don't think viral 60/60s are the way to go due to the panzer. You think I should keep aptitude even though I don't have a lot of status effects here?
  Dropping the serration will hurt the slash procs. But maybe not by much thanks to diminishing returns I guess?
  
  panzer is insufficient.
  gapt is better than serration. you'll have 5 statuses (IPS viral electric), thats +400% damage isnt it?
  indeed the general principle is you dont want to use too much of one stat, unless the weapon really sucks at something.

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