You Should Know @lemmy.world roo @lemmy.one 2y ago

YSK that Apollo is subject to auto-refund and you can decline this refund before the weekend.

appleinsider.com Apollo users, decline your subscription refund while you can

Reddit has forced third-party clients like Apollo to shut down due to exorbitant fees, and please refuse the subscription refund to help keep your favorite developers afloat.

Apollo can't afford Reddit's fees and will be subject to auto-refund for shutting down, so users can help by declining the refund.

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Reddit is going crazy because they are calling him a millionaire. I'm sorry, but making a million dollars over the past decade makes him paid less than a regular developer, and 1 million dollars can't even buy you a crack shack in Canada.

Remember, Canada is the most expensive place to live. We have the most expensive housing and internet/data plans in the entire world.

Think logically. Don't think like childish Redditors.
- Wait, Redditors are now bandwagoning on this slander too? I just figured it was a bullshit claim that u/spez made that the rest of the Reddit community saw through and weren't buying.
  
  If there actually is a large number of people actually believing this shit, then my already rock-bottom hope for Reddit has somehow plummeted further.
  
  Every reddit thread about Apollo is filled with hate against Apollo and christian.
  
  The message that's being repeated is that he's made millions of the poor backs of reddit and should be ashamed for taking advantage of the free api. Him asking to decline the refund is a scam/fraud to squeeze the last money he can from his poor users.
  
  I would not be surprised to find out that the posts comes from bot farms or spez himself.
  
  Dude, it's the internet. People are dumb by default around here. (Me very well included.)
- Millionaire absolutely doesn't mean what it did 30-40 years ago, too. Billionaire is a bit excessively high and isn't quite comparable to what millionaire used to be, and while of course most people have way less due to how the economy works, having a net worth of 1 million isn't a huge hurdle these days. We need a word for 100-millionaire. I'm sure Selig is not a 100-millionaire.
- On the bright side, having Apollo on his resume should make landing a good dev job (assuming he didn't have one already) pretty easy.
  
  He still shouldn't be on the hook for $250k though.
  
  They will still ask him to invert a binary tree, just to be sure he can code
- [re-ordered slightly for coherence: c.f. the original post for the original order]
  
  Remember, Canada is the most expensive place to live.
  
  and 1 million dollars can’t even buy you a crack shack in Canada.
  
  Last I heard Winnipeg was part of Canada, and I'm seeing quite a lot of nice, sizable homes under a million dollars.
  
  Oh, you mean specific cities in Canada? That leads us to this then:
  
  No Canadian city made it into this top ten list.
  
  None made it into this top ten list either.
  
  We have the most expensive housing and internet/data plans in the entire world.
  
  OK, let's look at internet plans.
  
  (Source)
  
  Oops. Not only does Canada have nowhere near the most expensive Internet access, it's near the BOTTOM of costs relative to income worldwide!
Here's the other thing - he's maybe a millionaire, not a billionaire. That's middle class, maybe upper middle class if he's got other income

This is a normal person who just lost his job with little notice because of a greedy company, and, to add insult to injury, now has to come up with money for refunds out of the blue

I know I wouldn't feel good taking back that money, whether he can afford it or not
- Strange understanding of middle class right there, that includes about 5% of US American population.
  
  He's not wrong. The owning class, the billionaires, are so ridiculously farther ahead that it makes millionaires middle class.
  
  And this is why we need to tax them out of existence.
  
  "Make Millionaires 'Rich' Again"
  
  1 million dollars over the last decade is 100k a year. That's top 18% not top 5%. Top 5% would be over 350k a year. I'm just basing this off random Google stats so the numbers may shift a little but 100k is definitely upper middle class at best
  
  Millionaires are definitely still well off but just to make a point: the average value of a US house is $450k. Add to this a $250k retirement fund and you're already up to 0.7M in net worth.
- Are there really people who thought that a software dev who spends his time making a reddit app would be a billionaire?
It doesn’t say how to decline it in that article, will it just pop up after the shutdown date?
- You should be prompted when opening after updating to the latest version.
  
  I’m so glad there are still decent people who try to do the right thing. Then there are the people who run Reddit.
  
  I just updated but there was no prompt for this, only the wallpaper prompt
  
  Update: I checked the Apollo sub and apparently many lifetime plan users don't have the option to decline the refund. That's a shame... Hope they fix it soon or I'll just leave a tip tomorrow
This is hearbreaking news - and I'm a little shocked to realise that the creators of Apollo can't simply walk away from the app which got scuttled (or, more likely, actively sabotaged by deliberately extreme Reddit attack).

They should be able to take this to court to redirect the affected people to claim their refund from Reddit.
- Reddit doesn't owe them a refund... Apollo Inc. should owe them a refund and the developer simply walks away, because he's not personally responsible for Apollo Inc's debts.
  
  Except he’s a nice person and not a piece of shit
I still haven’t seen this option appear anywhere.
- It was made available in the update that was released today. So you’ll need to update the app and then when you launch it after the update you should be presented with it.
  
  I have the latest, but that never appeared. I tooted at Christian on Mastodon about it. We'll see if he responds.
Help with what?
I am a bit confused about this. I paid a one time fee to Apollo for features but I would not expect him to refund that. I re-downloaded the app (deleted it 3 weeks ago when I left Reddit) and did not see the option to opt out of a refund. I want to make sure that Christian does not have to pay out for me.
- I believe the refund is for people who paid for a yearly subscription. Those people will get a refund for approximately half the price they paid because they only got to use the app for half a year.
  
  Which is a sensible policy, generally speaking.
- It is only for the subscriptions that are still active and the refund is for the portion last July 1st
Not gonna do it. Remember that Apollo dev lied that the paid pro version will never have ads and then started spamming popup ads for their ultra version a couple months ago
I wont be doing this as when I tried to pay for the wallpapers it took my money and gave me nothing
- Go to settings, and in the top left there should be an option for “Wallpapers”, and they should all display there. Make sure your app is fully up to date. They’ve actually added 6 new ones since i tipped a few hours ago.
  
  It still shows the purchase page despite my payment going through

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