China says it cannot accept countries acting as 'world judge' after US captures Maduro

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point.

China is hypocritical as FUCK

They take Tibet, they take Hong Kong despite practically the entire island coming out to say no thanks, they threaten Taiwan every second day, and the only reason they haven’t taken Taiwan is because they wouldn’t have been able to hold it against the west

Now they see how weak Europe is and the nutter in command of the US, and their plans have accelerated, this is simply an opportunity to further push propaganda on something they were always going to do

On top of that I actually wouldn’t mind if we had a judge that aligns closer to American/Western values

China is literally right next to the totalitarian dystopian hellscape that is North Korea

Executions for watching south korean tv, 3 generations of jail as punishment for committing crimes

i would have no problems if even china which is not great even by itself could bring some sense to north korea

I think they're wrong. Their statement is basically that international law is meaningless and that they're free to wage war without consequences.

This was probably their endgame from the beginning, since they promoted and helped reelect Donald Trump. If it came out that Trump, Maduro, Putin, and Xi Jinping all conspired to make these events happen, I would not at all be surprised.

Not as much as America tho.

People often forget all the countries America has bombed and destabilized in the past.

Even going so far as planning in details how to invade the International Criminal Court, if it ever dared to prosecute one of their soldiers for, say, murdering children in the streets.

That sounds an awful lot like Wilhoit's law, which I find myself referring to quite often lately.

Wilhoit's law:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

edit: So the US is the rich conservative of the world stage. Super. I love seeing the news every day and wondering if any more of these maga morons are going to finally have their "are we the baddies?" moment. /s

They did. The statement is "it cannot accept countries acting as 'world judge'" meaning countries also cannot judge them, that's exactly what China is claiming.

Americans don't even know all the countries America has annexed in the past. Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, Cuba. But you guys are obsessed with Taiwan. Free these countries first then have an opinion about Taiwan.

I'm not so sure it does. China is openly arguing against Trumps logic here, and the US just did demonstrate their military is still highly effective. The US seventh fleet hasn't moved away from Taiwan, and Trump is clearly signalling he intends to keep China down.

I'd argue Xi is not happy Trump decided to actually do something like this, because it increased the risk of his plans with Taiwan as well now that the US is openly hostile and MAGA cheers it on.

China needed him to keep up the whole peace pretense and for MAGA to stay on board with that. Now that that's gone, Trump has cleared the way for more military intervention.

China claims Taiwan is theirs. Invading their own country to free it doesn't really need any extra motive (even if there is) like what Trump needed, and is not playing world police.

100% agree, also China's outrage is in name only. They provided 1.6 Billion in relief in the form of buying oil lol.

this is how things work, and some people seem incapable of understanding that.

You exercise a given power, and it gives others justification to use power in the same way. Laws be damned, the motivation is there.

China is an authoritarian dictatorship that tramples human rights and treats its citizens like resources and speed-bumps and treats "free speech" as the joke it actually is.

All that said, they are pulling ahead on the world stage by miles. We don't see it in the US because again... freedom of speech isn't real, media is filtered, but if you travel you see whole other angles on the entire planet and just how much we don't get shown.

For example, you rarely see news about it, but China has launched 3 space stations in the time it took us to make just the documentaries about the ISS and how huuuuge of an accomplishment it was for the world. They are going to be launching probes and setting up smart, realistic goals for exploring the solar system. That's just not the kind high-tech, ambitious, modern project that we associate with our stereotypical imagery of China that we get fed here, but if you actually walk around in any of their new cities you will feel a distinct, sinking sensation that we've already lost.

All this time you've been agreeing with a terrorist organisation, you just didn't know it.

"cannot accept" = asking them nicely to stop. It's a nothing burger

While I agree you always need to look at who is saying what and what their motivations are, China has been investing in Venezuela, just as they have in many other countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy

China is nowhere near a terrorist as America.

Every regime change America has done in another country and installed a puppet, their economic situation never improved under the puppet leader.

All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.

:(

I mean...that's why that movie was made to begin with...

Swap police with gangsters and i agree.

Naw, OpenAi pays oracle to agree to eat the crap Oracle pays nvidia to agree to eat the crap Nvidia pays OpenAi to agree to eat the crap

The consumers eat the crap as they reduce the memory and video cards available to the public.

Okay but what metric should we use for the average American median voter who just wants to see China enter a wrestling ring with pyrotechnics and then rock and roll music plays and we see the US hit them with a steel chair.

Even that might be too nuanced and complex for the average American voter.

No serious economist uses GDP as a metric for actual economic production. Can we please at least use GDP (PPP)?

In terms of flexing on foreign countries on the international stage, though, raw GDP (or at least imports and exports) is pretty important.

The PPP calculation comparing China to the United States may tell us a lot about how much a resident of either country can expect to experience using the local currency domestically, but if we're talking about influence over a third country, in that third country's local currency, then I think each respective PPP back home doesn't matter as much.

China has 4x the population of the US. It should have 4x the GDP of the US to be truly equivalent.

Let's discuss the American military bases in countries that are clearly not America.

All that NK artillery was the real deterrent. Before NK developed Nukes, after the cold war the US could have relatively easily crushed them except for the incredible amount of collateral damage they could have done to SK. However, in the post Ukraine/Trump presidency age, securing a stock of nukes or joining a defense coalition that includes at least one member with nukes seems like the wise decision. Heart breaking really.

They literally can't. Nor can the US dump theirs.

The US, the EU, and China are economically tied to one another. One of the reasons there hasn't been a shooting war between the East and West is how much we depend on the other's economy. Without foreign backed assets, there's nothing to trade against.

Chinese made goods are bought with American dollars. If they're not putting them back in to the US, there's no need to take them in the first place. And then who, exactly, would China be making all that crap for?

or supporting Russia judging Ukraine, also totally ok.

different from other imperialists nations, how?

They seem to find no issue judging the Uygurs as needing to die

Are they killing Uyghurs by the millions or teaching them Mandarin?

So much of the hysteria around China seems to stem from domestic campaigns of infrastructure development. The Three Gourges Dam, the rapid expansion of urban infrastructure, development of schools and hospitals in the historically rural corners of the country, expansion of universities, trade with East Africa, the BRI - all described as brutal forms of colonial oppression by a savage and sadistic Far-Left Totalitarian Communist government.

Nobody described Bolsonaro's Brazil in these terms, as his administration clear cut the Amazon and rapidly displaced tens of thousands of migrants. Nobody described The Phillipines or Indonesia this way, even as Red Tagging was used as an excuse for vigilante executions and toxic dumping sent cancer rates stratospheric. Hell, its hard enough to get Israel described in these terms in any major western publication of record, and they're outright shooting children in the head before labeling them "Hamas Terrorists".

Why are liberals so eager to re-characterize literacy programs as a form of holocaust? Why do they seem so gleeful at the prospect of a China-Taiwan hot war? Why do we have a President threatening to invade Venezuela, Nigeria, and Greenland all at once, while his biggest "critics" complain that he's not bellicose enough?

Fucking wild times.

The other day i was explaining my (teenager) kids how it was in the early 2000s and instead of a history lesson, i watched this with them. One of the best summariesof that age.

That's Chinese social media.

they are pumping out propaganda hard right now, it’s everywhere

China obviously doesn't give af about supplanting the US as a world power. If they did they would actually do stuff internationally. There is no Chinese equivalent to NATO. All they will do in regards to Venezuelan president being kidnapped is strongly condemn it. They won't even offer PSUV any security guarantees. Literally all the Chinese government believes in is (1) trading with as many people as possible and (2) reuniting its breakaway territories. They have no ambitions beyond that. It is not true that China does business mostly with countries rejected by the Americans, but it does business with literally everyone. Chinese love to trade with everyone. While Americans media constantly criticizes China on every calling for regime change attacking their political system their leaders etc, the only time you ever hear criticism of the US on Chinese media is when the US does something that is viewed as harming trade, like the tariffs.

Since Taiwan is "already part" of China, that would just be internal affairs too.

so what if they do at this point? who's to say they are the bad guys if they do it?

Not really. Nations can and should be judged by the international community, I expect punishments on the way for Trump's actions if the US Congress fails to do anything about this offence.

Well sure. They were buying most of Venezuela's oil themselves.

and they meet Maduro a few hourse before he was kidnapped.

They just sell all the fucking bonds they have and tank them, the market for them, and the USA economy. Unless something has changed and i doubt it, China is the largest holder of USA debt related bonds sales in the world. It's myopic to think the only way to wage war in this day and age is through bullets with boots on the ground.

You keep making up this shit in every post. Do you get paid to do so, CIA stooge?