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  • Seriously? Religion it's a mechanism to control the masses. Don't be one of them, I know, it's so cozy and easy to project all on that, but sadly you have to think for yourself and take responsibility for your life, alone, no "god" or religion can and will set you free of that and it's not a bad thing, just think positive of that fact and it's not that hard anymore. I don't say : don't search for spiritual fulfilment, just stay independent in your thinking, don't let anybody talk you into guilt, there is no hell, you decide, what you do or you don't do. And animals - please. Nature takes care of itself, far faaaar longer as any one ever invented a "god" to cope with reality. We all die, that doesn't make life any less precious. Since billions of years, everywhere in the universe. We are living on this insignificant pebble called earth and for thousands of years religion didn't contribute to peace, less wars or better distribution of wealth, actually it contributed to the opposite, because it's so simple to exploit for the powerful. Please, from one human being too the next, think for yourself, do good without the feeling you have to because someone or an old book says so, and very much not out of guilt.

    Edit: everybody can vote something down or make a joke, how about sacrificing 5 minutes of your day for a little talk to maybe, just maybe, change something?

  • Well according to the church, animals don't have souls so they won't be going anywhere at all. Only souls move on to the afterlife, which includes hell. No soul means death is just not existing anymore.

    Which is what will happen to humans, also, because the soul is a bullshit concept.

  • Gotta say outright, a god that punishes people for not believing in the correct interpretation of him... is a God who's heaven I wouldn't want to go to. Just do the math on regional factors alone. Fact is if you believe in a god, if you are born in a heavily muslim area, there's a 75% chance you'd believe in the muslim interpretation. If you are born in a christian area, there's a 75% chance you'll have the christian belief, same for hinduism, bhudism etc...

    Fact is no matter how you slice it, if there is a correct version of god to believe in, at most maybe 1/3rd of people are in the right place to believe in that version of him. Meaning 2/3rds of the world is at a cultural disadvantage to not correctly beleive in the right version of god, and thus would be doomed to hell. That's before factoring in hundreds of other factors like life circumstance etc...

    Simple fact is if a god exists, and is good, and has an afterlife (none of which are facts I believe in). I don't think belief or knowledge is any sign of fairness for such a being to do, and certainly sending things to hell for something that they are literally incapable of even trying to think about... is just nonsense for anything but the most malicious and evil interpretations of a god.

    • And in this scenario, they are capable of spreading this knowledge to everyone, but choose not to, and allow or even directly cause people to be damned.

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