7d ago

lololol, tankies upset over how popular this community is

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"By nature of the Fediverse, chuds will make their own space"
They're so close to self-awareness
- self-awarewolves
- No chance. They would self harm if they ever achieved it.
- Cowbee wasn't saying that it's bad to make your own space, per se; he was saying that communities of like-minded people are naturally going to develop on the Fediverse because of its decentralized nature. No Hexbear would deny that we created the site for ourselves.
  
  Pretty sure "chud" is a derogatory term here, though.

Lol if you're not defending communist dictators, you're fascist?
They truly are missing a few screws.
- Not defending communist dictators is unequal to drinking the cool aid in a nazi bar. You could do one without the other. You don‘t, tho.
  
  What if both those things are bad though? Have you ever had this rational thought?

There is one reason I'm here and one reason alone. And that is because Lemmy.ml and allied instances refuse to allow open discussion and criticism of their ideas there. So we have to find another space for it. I suspect I'm not alone.
Want to decrease the popularity of this community? Stop enforcing wrongthink and allow people to discuss your ideas openly. I guarantee you this com would quickly dwindle.
- That's exactly it. I disagree with a lot of people in this community. I also disagree with a lot of people on lemmy.ml and the like. The difference is that here at least I can disagree without immediately being banned. It's great that the fediverse allows diversity of thought between different instances, but internally each instance is structured as its own little fiefdom, and lemmy.ml has some questionable leadership.

Sad that MotG is active and popular?
That's like a republican being upset that Leopards Ate My Face is too busy.
Do they not understand how the material is generated?

"Cryptofash", "fashy" 🤔
Feels like bastardizations of already bastardized words, and I wonder if they're using it to try to sound impactful while not saying much.
- Ah yes, of course the people who would have been allies with the Nazis up until the moment Hitler ate their face, the people who looked at Project 2025 and said "still better than Kamala though", the people supporting extreme authoritarianism and proving horsehoe theory correct... those people want to throw the word "fascist" around 🤣
  
  I hate it because all they achieved is making the word mean nothing. I everyone is calling the other fascist, then it is that much harder to call out actual fascists.
  
  they became so far left, they are on the alt-right.
- there are only two ideologies.
  mine and fascists
- One of the most important tasks in any propaganda framework is defining the words appropriately.
  In particular, the word for "enemy" needs to be carefully chosen.
- thats the same thing conservative used. they used things like shitlibs as tankies, or libtards as conservative exact same messaging.
- Remarkably, it's not that much harder to type Cryptofascist than it is to type Cryptofash. What is a Crypto-fascist, btw?

Some of the worst tankies on Threadi (that lack humanity and behave in the most regressive way possible) in that screenshot.
Also funny how US-centric they are with their use of chud terminology. The vile pro-authoritarians can't even imagine a world outside of their US-style fake commie online roleplay.
- Talkies worship imperialism, the ultimate expression of the ends justifying means, so it makes sense they'd also be snide cultural imperialists without realizing it. I also really think a lot of them would be improved by being extracted from their basements and set to some yard work
  
  Hell, I'd bet just doing their own laundry and giving their moms a break would make them better people.
  
  is your avatar runescape fuckboy?
- I did chuckle about how they use far/alt right terminology like "chud". hmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔
  
  shitlib is another. they might as well call it woke.

I'd prefer it if it were possible to kick these chuds off the fediverse entirely
And they still don't see who they are...
- "We must forcibly suppress the people who say we're authoritarian"

tankies stay seething
- also apparently like one post every few days is considered popular by tankie standards. geez dude

Cowbee said something right for once.
Except they don't understand that they are the chuds who have created their own safe spaces.
- You have been banned from the DPRK. Glorious leader has spoken.
  Cowbee loves to act like he's not in an echo chamber. All the tankies like him are just currently unemployed dictators. They're like the people who simp for billionaires...just they do it hoping that they'll be in charge when "communism" comes around.
  
  a comment on reddit on a sub recently about voters, and they said tankies(i assume the leftist) dont come out in vote in elections, they just whine and removed behind the screens, and give excuses. for terrible as they are , conservatives at least come in droves to vote all the time. ,most of the time.

Oh lord. And I thought the right wing chuds were kings of projection. These people genuinely live in an alternate reality. It's equal parts fascinating, sad, and disturbing.
- That's their secret. They're also right-wingers.
  
  So far left, they're right. Bizzaro Centrists.
  
  Well, they're conservatives. Their chosen ingroup just happens to be leftists. Same behavior, different markings.
  By contrast there are right-wingers who aren't tribalists blindly performing loyalty. You can spot them as they get booted from their party for insisting on yesterday's bullshit over today's bullshit. They're the schmucks who actually bought their side's propaganda, never realizing it was only a disposable cudgel.

I do share a concern with these comments though. I never comment here, but I do like laughing at tankie's bullshit sometimes. However, these types of spaces are very easy and often prone to right-wing infiltration. And they can slowly but surely turn into a Nazi bar, and I think this is something to look out for.
Again, I've never comment around here, and I don't always check the comments. I'm not too familiar with the community, but I have seen some concerning things here and there. And in general lately I feel like Lemmy has taken a more centrist right-wing bend. I think we've had another influx from Reddit. I'm not sure, but I am a bit concerned. I might just be overly concerned. Maybe it's my anxiety disorder at play again. Still, I think it's worth keeping an eye on.
I think there is more validity to this comment than is being given credit for, here.
- If it helps, I don't think I've run across any obviously right wing comments on Lemmy in a long time, at least not any that haven't been ratioed to hell and back.
  Another fun story is c/conservative. It was started by a conservative, iirc, and for reasons I can't fully recall, is now modded by leftists, and the whole community's purpose is calling out conservative nonsense.
  The social fabric of Lemmy seems to be very anti-conservative, which is really refreshing for me, at least.
  
  They were ratioed so consistently and hard that they left for at least another server if not entirely. Hillariouschaos iIRC. The community was considered abandoned and someone applied for stewardship of it and was given it.
  If you see a dead community you think you might be able to resuscitate and have the interest. Try contracting the mods. And if the mods have been inactive months/years contact the admins.
  
  its hard to keep conservatives communities going, without constant propaganda bots, mostly from russia infiltrating it, like on REDDIT, where the conservative subs are mostly run by russian backed mods, and thier propaganda bots. because conservatives need constant drama in order to keep it going. they probably went back to reddit, or to X.
  
  There's a small group of con chuds over at maga place these days, but they don't seem to be growing for now.
  Before them there was one acct I forget right now who was a self declared con, but I don't think I've seen his name pop up in a couple months. It's lonely on the outskirts of reason when there's no one else to support your delusions
  
  I personally hate that people thought it was appropriate to ransack the one conservative community. People complain about the tankies banning people for politics but then the admins go and take over a community for political reasons. As long as they weren't actively breaking the rules I don't see why there couldn't be a conservative community.
  It is ok for someone to have different political views. People these days are way to comfortable creating echo chambers that discourage critical thinking.
- Most posting here would equally ridicule the auth right. I may generally disagree with the right. But when there can be open earnest discussion and openness to solutions, with those that identify as right leaning. You'll find more common ground with them than either auth group that would other and kill you for your dissent.
  
  I don't think I've ever seen a right wing poster come in here or well anywhere on lemmy and not get absolutely torn apart.
  
  I just want diversity of opinions. People these days treat politics like religion.
- Lemmy will never be right-wing, whatever that means anymore.
  but if ya spot anything you're unsure of, or got any concerns, just voice em and i'll see what i can do
- reddit was pretty center right since '16, im not surprised. i dint see any ban waves recently from reddit. at least dint notice like the purges early in the year. i think reddit switched to doing more background banning because they realized they are losing too much users/engagement and only the bots are left.
- Once you get to the extremes right and left look about the same
  However, Lemmy is very much not right wing. It is very definitely left for better or for worse

commenting specifically so tankies label me “fashy” while they actively defend dictatorships.

I'd prefer it if it were possible to kick these chuds off the fediverse entirely.
🙃
- you can block the tankie triad, but the individual accounts maybe harder i just block everytime i see them.

No surprise tankie trolls would like drama.
- tankies and conservatives share things in common.
  
  tankies and regressives do indeed share things in common.

Replace MoG with .ml and it was essentially reads the same.

Cowbee being predictable as ever
- oh no, im not a tankie, i just post in hexbear and call myself a tankie
  funny thing is that I'm referring to both of them lol

im starting to see tankie posts infiltrating the political memes community on here.
- Starting?

In general, shitting on other nobodies from social networks is weak sauce. It doesn't look cool and interesting to new users. And it genuinely sucks to see a bunch of dorks jerking themselves off at how dumb you are, even if you're right.
But this community is lighthearted and cathartic. 🤪 I hope it stays this way. If they come visit, please be civil! There's another person on the other side of the computers.

Oh gosh, I better be scared of posting here... wouldn't want to be fash (in the eyes of tankies). :P Scared, not scared.
Heck, even if the accusations have merit, I'd rather be Daryl Davis, than leave it to fester in a worsening echo chamber.
Either way, "Cui bono?"

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