1y ago

r/TIHI has been banned for being unmoderated.

old.reddit.com r/TIHI has been banned for being unmoderated.

Posted in r/ModCoord by u/BuckRowdy • 32 points and 14 comments

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To all the folks saying that reddit couldn't replace the mods, that it was too big an effort, that they couldn't run a big sub all by themselves, I have only one thing to say to you.
You were right.
- Thanks, I hate being right.
  
  How fitting. There should be a community/magazine for this
- I'm sure users will step forward if they care. Otherwise, it's just a campaign optimization at work. Limit the breadth of organic content to deepen the brand-friendly content and push more paid media into the feed.
  
  Yes they most definitely will...but increasingly such things likely will not happen on the Reddit platform, moving forward. There are actual reasons that the mods left - e.g. to moderate a sub of millions of subscribers takes effort, which needs tools to make that happen - and those reasons still exist.
  
  I'm sure users will step forward if they care.
  This is the part I didn't quite get. Like I am sure that there were users who requested this sub in r/redditrequest after r/TIHI became unmoderated.
  For some reason I don't understand, these requests did not pan out and it ended up getting shut down instead.
  At the very least, users stepping forward doesn't seem to be enough on its own.
  
  Reddit is really on their way to become the next facebook.
  
  Im halfway tempted to start claiming demodded subs and filling them up with instructions on how to move to their kbin/lemmy alternatives.
  If they kick me out and ban me I won't find out cause I don't go into reddit no more.
  Edit: of course they would never give the subreddits to me, but I find the idea really funny
- Ever since Victoria got sacked, reddit doesn't seem to have anyone competent enough to run community relation anymore. They probably can't figure out how to vet new mods if they were to hire some.
- I said it, but I didn't believe it would happen that quick. That's amazing and sad.

Thanks, I love it.

TIHI was a fairly large sub, with almost multimilion level of subscribers. If reddit wanted to increase traffic and get more eyes on ads, they're doing quite a terrible job of it so far.
- Reddit's stance has just been so bizarre.
  So they want people to pay to not see ads? They literally sell that as a product, Reddit Premium. Why not tie API access to premium subscriptions? It's not even unprecedented; Spotify does this.
  
  This is literally the only reason I would pay for Premium access.
  
  At this point, it's not about what is logical or sensible. Huffman would rather burn the place down than admit he was wrong.
  
  That's not totalitarian enough.
  
  That's not what Elon Musk would do, so spez doesn't like it.
  
  What I still don't get is why all these apps had to have a single api account for all users.
  
  It's not about the ads. It's about the telemetry you can get on user behavior from a mobile app. Reddit wants to leverage that as part of its ad sales package.
- Once you have enough of it to live a comfortable life, money just becomes about power. So, what we have is some spoiled rich asshole who is used to having influence and power being shown that most of that was a gift. That gift has been recinded, and so the only control he has left is money.
  He's spending some of Reddit's current and future earnings on stepping on necks. Because that's what the cash was going to be used for, in one way or another, anyway.
- So what was TIHI anyway?
  
  TIHI stood for Thanks, I Hate It. I never browsed but figure it was a meme sub on things to dislike.

I thought they would just take over or replace the mod list. Guess I was wrong
- Fucking dumb to force them to reopen and then when mods say fuckit ban the sub. This is some bad parenting.
  
  But I thought millions of people depended on the communities involved and that’s why they had to reopen.
  Doesn’t banning the community just fully go against their stated reasoning?
- And who are they going to have take over mod responsibilities (for free) in all of these communities at once? This is why mods need to call their bluff and force them to try to replace them.
  
  Saw someone complaining about the protest in a thread where the top mod was offering up the sub to whoever wanted it. I suggested they (person complaining) go ahead and step up and ask to be a mod. They replied something like, “I don’t wanna be an E-jannie…[blah blah].”
  These people assume that there’s plenty of other people who will step-up and take over. We’ll see I guess.
  
  What I expected:
  Randos asking for it on /r/redditrequest
  And if that didn't work out poorly paid workers in some cheap country somewhere, like facebook does.
- Yeah this is the dumbest move possible. I can only assume they're trying to scare other mods into alignment because they can't replace the moderators effectively. Well, I'll cheers to their stupidity!
- "We'll replace you with loyal moderators" has always been an empty threat. You don't just find people willing to take the responsibility of moderating a 100k+ user sub on the street.

I personally never browsed TIHI. It was always one of those where linking it was more of a meme than actually browsing it in my mind. Similar to how a lot of people would comment "/r/unexpectedjohnmulaney" but very few people were actually subbed to /r/unexpectedjohnmulaney. Because who the heck wants a bunch of pictures of comments referencing John Mulaney jokes in their feed? It's the old "subreddits as hashtags" bit.
All that being said, it sucks because I know TIHI actually had more of a community than most "hashtaggy" subreddits. My understanding is it was a bit like a blend of ATBGE, MildlyInfuriating, CursedImages, or DIWhy.
Reddit is killing real communities, and killing their own history in the process. All those comments throughout the ages linking "/r/TIHI" now link to a dead sub. As much as I may have found those comments annoying, there were people out there who would click that link and go browse or maybe even subscribe to TIHI as a result of those comments.
- It’s only a matter of time until more subs start meeting the same fate. I’m glad to have found a new platform to move to. After reading the posts from the Apollo dev, it seemed like the writing was on the wall about Reddit
- I was subscribed to it, RIP
- The thing about TIHI, interestingasfuck, SLPT are that they regularly made r/all. Content hitting the front page means views for Reddit. So it's less about the sub's specific userbase, and more that those "main" subs have broad user appeal that brings people to Reddit in the first place.
  And currently they're all shuttered. Which means less content on r/all, which decreases the general audience appeal of Reddit.
  Quality management 👍
- I guess we will start to see an uptick of "r/subsIfellfor" posts after more closures in light of how frequently the subreddit-as-hashtag but was being used.

So having all the mods quit is actually a viable way to protest? (writes down notes)

Reddit: You can't be private, people need to see the content, reopen or else!
TIHI: No.
Reddit: Fine, mods are gone and we've reopened the community. People who want to be mods speak up
Crickets: Cricket noises
Reddit: This sub is unmoderated, so it's now banned so nobody can see it
So... Reddit just reclosed the sub they said MUST be open.
Sound logic. Real class act.
- Whole situation is so bizzare. Good for kbin and lemmy tho
- We should all message the admins demanding the closed sub be reopened to stop the protests.
  Maybe we can get an infinite loop going.

I think it's funny that in response to this people are STILL insisting that it's easy to find new mods. TIHI, interestingasfuck, and shittylifeprotips have been closed for over a week because they have no mods. Before TIHI mods got banned, they offered multiple users complaining the option to take over moderating the sub and they said no.
How does any of this point to it being easy to replace mods? Delusional
- You would think that Reddit would have put some new mods in there right away (even if those "new mods" were just socks being staffed by Reddit employees) to put pressure on other subreddits.
  
  That's hard to do when you're not profitable lol and with reddit users/creators leaving en masse, I don't see reddit ever being profitable since those are the same people that made the site what it was, not reddit employees.
  Oh well too bad, but the fediverse is interesting and it has potential to be better than reddit could ever dream of being, without a single monolith able to destroy it. Decentralization is the future of the internet.

This is what "to cut off your nose to spite your face" means. To the letter.
- Spez is demonstrating “thanks I hate it (the users)”

“its illegal to kill yourself!” kills them
- "ah, you see that action carries the death penalty"

In for a penny, in for a pound I guess.
I didn't think Spez would literally drive his platform to ashes, I thought there was a middle ground, but nope he is going straight to the logical conclusion to all this.

What was r/TIHI? I can't get to the reddit site anymore, but even if I could, it probably wouldn't be very enlightening if the sub is already deleted...
- @ausiematt "Thanks, I hate it"
- Idk if youve ever seen the bagel made of semi solid pasta and sauce that had a bite out of it? I think that was in TIHI once. Im gonna try and find it and link it.
  Edit: this is the google image result. U can see is from that subreddit but also posted other places.

We don’t need no water let the motherfucker burn

From what I can see, /r/tihi has only been closed, not banned.
- It was banned when the post was made, it appears that it has switched to private. Haven’t seen any public update about what changed

Banned, aka set permanently private, exactly what reddit wanted to destroy

It's privated.

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