ruled men make good rules
ruled men make good rules
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Unfortunately the saying refers to soft men like Trump et. al., not femboys.
God I wish we had a femboy president and cabinet... I'm not even attracted to them. I just know they'd be infinitely better than the fucking fascist cheeto et. al..
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This is still not the criteria to decide who decides...
... Nor correct reasoning. Femboys can be fascist too. These are not mutually exclusive sets. So no, you are in error asserting you know they'd be better, if you're saying they'd not be fascist. Power corrupts, and corrupted feboys may be a devil we don't know. I'd rather not have a devil making machine. No matter which flavour of devils. I do not want a devil making machine. Putting women in power, did not mend it. Putting "black faces in high places", did not mend it. But putting femboys in the power structure shaped for fascism, is going to mend it? May be yet missing the lesson to learn here. ~ Sorry Martin Luther King. I'm tryin.
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This whole thing never made much sense. It’s just a poorly thought out version of the passage of trauma, one that fails to account for systemization of classism, bigotry, and the like. If this were the case, things should swing wildly every 40 years, but that hasn’t been my observation.
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No, it makes perfect sense if you treat it like the metaphorical expression it is and not a literal description of reality...
Or are you the kind of person to think, "measure twice, cut once" literally means you need to measure things twice and not that it's about being careful?
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Easy for you to say when you've got a prescription which ensures that for hours at a time.
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is that prescription dancing?
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Stupid men like oversimplified phrases that make themselves think they're better than others.
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are they even better than others, by their own logic? they make it sound like a natural cycle, where the hard/softness of people is a natural consequence of the times which made them. the times are just a natural consequence of the hardness of the people.
with this framework, if times are bad right now, that can't be some great moral failing, after all the people allegedly responsible, did not chose to make them so, and anyway, the times will get good again soon enough, ... and then go bad again. it might just suck to live through the hard times.
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Yeah. Gotta wonder what all their fuss is about.
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smart tech makes dumb people, dumb people make dumb tech, dumb tech makes smart people, smart people make smart tech.
... i like this oversimplification, and can contrive calling myself smart from it.
so i must be a stupid.
wise tech makes wise people, wise people make wise tech.
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IS THAT A RAINBOW IN THEIR PFP? DID GRINDR GO WOKE???
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Equal opportunity sodomy imposed.
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How shocking!
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Bad men good times make hard men. Good times make men hard make soft men. Soft good men make men man men.
Time good bad times. We need men men men.
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Most of what makes these "bad times", involves the existence of massive dickheads like Laurence Fox, who think that strength is the same as bigotry.
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Ignoring for a moment that apparently women don't exist in that world, even the premise doesn't hold: Bad times don't make hard people, bad times make sick, malnourished, badly educated and/or desperate people, none of which is conductive to making the proposed following of the good times.
If any of that were true, the good times in the so called first world should've made their peoples so soft compared to the hard peoples that should've been created literally everywhere else that the last 300 years of war or so should've ended very differently.
It's a racist propaganda trope that harkens back to ancient Rome where senators decried the "soft" Roman lifestyle compared to the "hard" germanic tribes and has gathered connotations of blood-and-earth ("Blut und Boden", no idea how thats translated) and other unsavory shit in the meantime.
I like to call it the "Fremen Mirage" after the awesome blog collection of a historian I very much like: https://acoup.blog/2020/01/17/collections-the-fremen-mirage-part-i-war-at-the-dawn-of-civilization/
Props to grindr for judo-ing this pile of worms to a place the original poster presumably wouldn't have liked very much
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I love that blog. It's written in such a thorough yet accessible manner that I've actually sent that particular post to a friend with whom I was arguing about this with
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Why is GrinderUS named GrinderUK?
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listen up libruls, i beat my entire family so they can be MANLY
my wife left and took the kids
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That’s hard, man.
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Reminder that Laurence Fox is a classist, racist, Covid-denying, bigoted, moron that even the majority of the British right wing ignore as too far gone.
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Is there an echo in here??
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Did anybody ever respond to him? I don't see anything highlighted so I don't think so
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Nothing yet, will keep you posted
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I think we're all just having a discussion about how to help him. Such a delicate soul.
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most of the 20th century dictators were men "made" by bad times. explain this sherlock.
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I think the sticking point would be the "hard [people] make good times" assertion. Hard (read: traumatized) people tend to be assertive and aggressive in positions of leadership. While that certainly can create change for the better, that change is far from guaranteed.
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Trauma's no magic wand that makes people hard. It's not always true that what does not kill you makes you stronger.
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The whole cyclical thing is bullshit and has been for thousands of years. Good times make for a surplus in food and other products, which can feed a warrior caste to pillage more prosperity from the unfortunate.
Dr. Devereaux explores this myth in his series dubbed "The Fremen Mirage" (named such after the fictional people of Dune, both to provide an example of its "distilled" portrayal in fiction and to avoid linking it to any specific real culture he'd step on the toes of).
And we do need men. Men whose identity isn't defined by supremacy or dominance, but by the courage to step up, the strength to help carry the weaker members of society, the honour to protect the vulnerable and the confidence to not feel emasculated by conceding error or showing tenderness or loving other men.
Most of that is applicable to humans in general, regardless of gender, biology, sexuality, ethnicity or whether they like soy-based foods, but if we're gonna lean into masculine stereotypes, let it be the healthy, beneficial ones.
And if we're gonna lean into men, have fun!
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TIL that Lemmy has
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I never actually tried HTML tags (and I'd be surprised if they work, given the vulnerabilities that would introduce), but Lemmy (or at least most clients) supports Markdown, where
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Doesn't look like it on my end. Shame.
While we're at it, it does support HTML entities like ü ∈ or ⥱ (
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Yeah. Does seem rather like weak men of all types (perhaps most especially the try-hard covering up their errors, tenderness and love) contribute to bad times. Does seem like the exit route out of the cyclical thing (the delusion thereof) is to keep on generating good times that create strong good men, not hard strong men... because history shows us hard strong men at the fore of worst times. ~ (Or at least that type of weak men who try to appear as hard strong men to compensate for, rather than admit and correct their errors; to deny their tenderness; to pervert their love (e.g. for domination rather than each other))
And better nettle tea, than soy, if we're looking after men's health like hormonal influences on how beneficially they purport themselves.
... Just realised... Also, lets all drop all the times stuff like its the same for everyone. Always more variety of experience no matter the times. Always a variety of men of whatever reductive judgement anyone may want to put on each. We got interesting times, now and ahead. Buckle up, everybody. Much to mend. We'll need the rich variety of aptitudes in each, not the wrong criteria of pass/fail individuals on the colour of their skin, or their preference of this or that.
Ever hard work picking out the insidious little psyops the foxes plop into our brains. As we keep doing that hard work, from these bad times, we'll become hard men, and then fox can get his narcissistic fuel, like he's the father of salvation, instead of the rotter making things bad. It's same old "conservative" con, they keep your head under water, drowning you, and when you finally manage to rise up for air, they take credit for making you strong enough to.
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This is patently inaccurate. If anything, bad times make soft men, in many of us desperate crave someone to protect us, with whom we feel safe to be soft with. And then, of course, soft men makes hard men
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The current times were made by people in their 60s to 80s so they are the weak men by his logic.
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good times make hard men. soft men make me hard.
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This comment made me a hard man.
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So... we are in bad times... and bad times make hard men... and "we need MEN"... and grindr's going to make men hard...
Just trying to follow the logic...
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"GrindrUK" "@GrindrUS"
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I’m so glad they sloppily hilighted the text, otherwise I might not have understood it
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Hard men make soft men. Soft men become hard men... What were we talking about?
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Did he just call himself soft?
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So is Mr Fox admitting to being a soft man for being around to cause these problems?
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Okay, who else tried to wipe or blow away the random line?
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I was once told that blowing is gay.
... The guy was serious. Not using a euphemism.
If he saw it, he'd leave it be, not wanting to be gay.
XD
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It’s funny that Laurence is about as soft a lad as they come. His entire acting family is so obviously posh and pampered that they all have to play Malfoys, but the rest of them just get on with it instead of coming out with cry-baby shit like this on the regular.
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