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So i need some input.

So i need some input.
I think to replace my unify gear for european / open source one.

And i heavily hesitate between an opensource router with opnsense (from eu).

Or a mikrotik router.

Can any #network or #mikrotik #opensense #pfsense user give me any input.

Also does the one you own provide update / system update to EU server (even as mirror).

i need multiple wifi AP that share the same network

Thanks

question #fedihelp #network #internet #eu #buyeu @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik

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@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social I'm not an expert, but I'd probably go with the DIY open source approach a supported hardware platform. There you'd full control over the software mirrors and such details.
I use Plasma Cloud access points myself. While they're not technically European, they're not American, either.
- @funambolo @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social i take note, i hope to replicate the way of (at least for wifi) unify allow an unified (pun intended) coverage that allow to move easily from one to another AP without diconection.
  For the fact it's not european it's not very important if they are open source on software and not american (or chinese) i'm interested.
  As chinese have backdoor policy and US ... i mean i would literally prefer to go Chinese backdoor road that anything US right now.
  
  @lexinova @funambolo @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social
  i would literally prefer to go Chinese backdoor road that anything US right now.
  Steady on... if you're trying to avoid being snooped rolling your own with FOSS is probably the best bet. Being snooped by someone else isn't solving anything.
  Unfortunately that is very hard with wireless cards, consumer ones have limits on the number of stations they will act as AP for and proprietary firmware. There are no modern fully FOSS solutions AFAIK.

@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
I finally removed my last Unifi device last year and am not looking back.
I was trying to decide the same, but went with MikroTik since I wanted a solution that covered all my network gear. I also didn't want either US or Non-NATO based solutions. I've been very happy with my choice. Just be careful with the APs. There are US-only models floating around on Ebay. If you buy those, you will get locked out of usable bands.
- @36pickledeggs @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik what about update period their website say (lifetime of device or 5y min) unify update since longer so i ask
  
  @lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
  I'll let Microtik field this question for their side, but this is actually one of the major reasons I started moving away from Ubiquiti. Ubiquiti's support for many for their Edgerouter products seemed very hit or miss only after a few years. They would technically receive security updates, but little to nothing else.

@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik for the mirror, I have a openwrt archive on mine. For the WiFi stuff, if you manage to find something that does AP roaming, I m very interested

I had Mikrotik APs, it was terrible, my phone kept losing connection, handover between APs caused long delays, and of course it had the famous Mikrotik UI.
I switched to Ubiquiti and the problems are gone.
I use a Mikrotik wired routers and switches at work and they're fine, no complaints, but if you never interacted with their UI or CLI, watch some tutorial before you buy, because it's not in everyone's taste.
I have OPNSense as a VM and it looks easy enough to use, updates work fine, I never tried pushing it beyond the features it has built in though.
- @RheumatoidArthritis ubiquiti us out the windows, to much reliance on US it's an unnaceptable risk in 2025 due to their orange nazi betrayal
  
  Yeah, noticed that in your post. Consider this my comment on the quality of Mikrotik wireless devices.

@lexinova you can build (or buy) a very capable router/firewall with opnsense. If the DIY aspect is attractive I'd go that way. I did that for a while and eventually switched to Mikrotik as I wanted a minimum-moving-parts setup for my infrastructure (which is not a homelab - it needs to function damn near 100%).
WiFi APs are a different story. I have Mikrotik there also and their Capsman works well but Unifi have the usability edge for roaming.
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- @lexinova that being said it is only a matter of proper configuration to get reliable roaming on any equipment. Key is to NOT turn transmit power up to max., thereby preventing clients from selecting the best AP.
  The newer Mikrotik devices have much better radio interfaces now and are well usable.
  There is little wrong with buying other devices and putting Openwrt on them. I just don't really want to support manufacturers shipping shitty software.
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  @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik

I have a pfsense firewall and a mikrotik AP. Works great. With PfSense, I highly recommend you buy it on an appliance though. There are online shops in the EU which deliver it to you. Check the website.
On the MicroTik, the only complaint I have is that the Web GUI is a complete mess. It's a Wi-Fi AP but every feature that any microtic product has is still visible and can even be changed by user input in the GUI. So you can mess around with 5G settings in spite of the fact it's just a Wi-Fi AP. It does nothing, but clutter the UI.

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