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Leaked documents claim 'US wants to convince four countries to quit EU' in bid to 'Make Europe Great Again'

www.lbc.co.uk Leaked documents claim 'US wants to convince four countries to quit EU' in bid to 'Make Europe Great Again' | LBC

Donald Trump is allegedly attempting to persuade four countries to quit the European Union as part of his plan to “Make Europe Great Again.”

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Hungary leaving EU? Oh pleeeaaassse i can only get so wet!!
- hungary is the welfare state of the EU.
- Hungary leaving the EU may not be the best outcome. I fear they would become like Belarus, a proxy for Russia's hybrid warfare, for instance weaponizing migrants to cause havoc at the border, allow them to operate jammer and drone operation from their terrirory.
- It wouldn't be so bad short-term, since it'd stop Hungary from veto'ing everything. However, long-term, losing any EU members is terrible. Especially considering there are already plans to remove veto by moving to qualified majority voting.
  No matter what, we need to stick together. Now more than ever. All EU member states are our friends and allies, despite some of them being problematic. The solution is helping the nations with their corrupt governments. Not abandoning them. That's not unity.
- I guess the majority of eu citizens hate hungarians by now. what a douche country. i wonder what drives these small dick energy countries forward. look at serbia. same small dick energy like "oh we hate diversity. lets get butt fucked by russia" instead of growing their own balls.
  so yeah, fuck the hungarians!
  
  Not hungarians. The government of hungary
  
  My only problem with Hungarians is that they keep re-electing Orban, and even then I understand that given his control of the Press over there, most who do it are just being daily brainwashed to do it.
  That said, a Hungary Leave might just be the jolt that's needed to change things there (and it would isolate the rest of us from their problems plus would seriously dampen the prospects of any Orban-similar far-right in the rest of Eastern Europe), though there is a risk for Hungarian that the place turns into a hard autocracy controlled by Russia like Belarus and thus can't actually get back to Democracy.
  
  Hungary's elections are very very far from "free and fair"
  
  Well, since I don't know enough in that front, I didn't mention it either way and hoped for somebody more familiar with it to comment!
  That said, the "it will give Hungarians a jolt" theory still applies, tough in this case is for more "assertive" actions than merelly voting differently (which in a situation were elections aren't "free and fair" would be their only option to stop autocracy, even inside the EU) which does have a greater risk of things just getting worse (or maybe not: theoretically the end of money from the EU and of easy access to the EU should push the Hungarian Elites which are "fine with a little autocracy as long as we keep making money" to turn against Orban).
  
  that explains all the protests....not.
  
  There are tons of protests.
  What's your beef here? Some personal vendetta against Hungarians? You missed out on cheap Lake side property around Balaton or something?
  
  Hungary's elections are very very far from "free and fair"

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