Leaked documents claim 'US wants to convince four countries to quit EU' in bid to 'Make Europe Great Again'

Because a) he's a Russian asset (apparently) and b) they have incriminating evidence on him and probably a bunch of other billionaires. Also, if they could spend a few billion in return for control of pretty much they would, they'd be willing to pay for it.

Billionaires dont care as long as number go up.

They can’t be that incompetent

Have you seen these billionaires? They absolutely can. The myth of their competence is pure propaganda.

Also, they like corruption because it offers many opportunities for those with enough money to pay. And they like oppression of workers because it provides a ready pool of cheap labour to exploit.

They'll be looking at Russia and liking what they see, because they don't see themselves being the ones working for pennies and being sent to die in Ukraine. And they all think they're the smartest guy in the world ("why else would I have so much money?") so they don't see themselves being fucked over by Putin either. For them Russia is the promise of doing whatever you want, taking advantage of whomever you want, and getting whatever you want.

It sure as hell can’t hurt

If it’s as inept as their defense strategy don’t expect much

Yes, please.

We helped them with their fascist problem a while back, it's only fair.

You overestimate the independence of Europe. This is all flooding the zone while the US rebuild Europe anyway.

It has also done the same for lot of people in the rest of the EU who before believed the same far-right populist fables about how great it would be to leave the EU, which is why the far-right in those countries doesn't talk about that anymore.

I lived in a couple of countries in the EU and my impression was that Britain was the best candidate of all in the EU to fall for the whole "We would be better of outside the EU" because they were the ones who looked back to the years before entering the EU and mainly saw a great Great Britain (an image relentlessly beautified and pushed by local media right, which is why even now almost a century after it a "new British film coming out about how Britain pretty much singlehandedly won WWI" is still a regular event and news about international affairs in Britain tend to be either spinning Britain as having great influence in the World or "look at that tupid thing happening in that country, this would never happen in Old Blighty [as we're superior to those foreigners]" news pieces) so it was easy for such Delusions Of National Greatness to be turned into Brexit by outside influences (namely, American - just look up who funded Cambridge Analitica to spread pro-Leave propaganda).

After the subsequent shitshow with the "most likely nation in the EU to fall for Alone We're Stronger bollocks" none of the larger nations left in the EU (which are just mid-sized nations in World terms) have any illusions that leaving would make them better of (plus people there already had fewer delusions of greatness to begin with than Brits), whilst the smaller nations never had any fond memories of time before the EU when they were little more than kicking balls for the bigger nations, to begin with.

All this to say that the country were an EU exit was most easy to leverage by foreign interests has already had that happen and the result stands as an example that further deters the idea of leaving in the few EU countries were the idea that "we were stronger alone" ever had more than a handful of believers.

No where near current development state, and people know that - huge percentage of people are pro EU.

I don't think they'd quit though. They're benefiting too much. They bark but won't bite I think.

That's Orban not the people, we'll see in February IIRC when he gets the boot. Even with his anti democratic maneuversvit seems unlikely that he'd get reelected. I sure hope so too.

They became the poorest country in the EU but benefits the most, fuck that scum traitor.

And welcome back Hungarian people!

I mean Hungary already acts like it’s not part of it

Or they do, and everybody else acts as if the EU has to be a country like the US.

Unanimous means that a country cannot be forced to act against their will. That was the promise of the EU, economic benefits with political independence. Demanding more is bait and switch.

Even the Piss Party isn't dumb enough to leave the EU and its bountiful benefits.

If you assume every country is a US-style presidential autocracy, 4/4.

All filled with either Russian or American assets, maybe except Poland to some extent. But even that is likely to change after the next elections.

Not hungarians. The government of hungary

Countries don't have allies, they have interests.

We can't use symbolism anymore? There are other context where snakes has positive symbolism

I agree, the stupidity of some people can be shocking. Just look at brexit. In Poland there are some minor voices for polexit, but for now it is ridiculed by majority. In 10-15 years imho it can change, since thanks to disinformation campaign done by russia we see that many people changed their opinion about Ukraine. It’s heartbreaking.

Americans were only portrayed as strong and smart, like soviets socialism realism art movement portrayed soviets as strong and hard working "good" people. Nice propaganda eh.

I mean we all grew up with those badass americans in movies and books, a huge bias IMO.

Europeans have a huge cultural edge here IMO but I'm biased on that front ofc. We'll see, interesting times...

Such a shame that famous people are not jailed for spreading lies

Actually Britain is doing 6 to 8% worse that the rest of the EU and that's just in reduced Economic Growth.

Its influence in international affairs has also fallen steeply - one thing is to be a mid-sized country with a significant ability to move a block of 540 million people, a whole different thing is to be just another mid-sized country.

Having lived there at the time, I keenly remember how Britain supposed to become once again an Economic Powerhouse (with Return To Past Greatness implied, rather than openly stated as in the US). Such fanciful bollocks is now well dead and burried.

How does the UK run its agriculture now? Do they do subsidies? In what way? Do they protect their produce market through import policies?

Grand, thanks. I’ve just never heard of them before

or it leaks out of russian agent tulsi gabbard.

Putin would love nothing more than a broken un-united Europe, easy to pick them off one by one

Defenetly. I would morn for the people of that country especially for a person that i knew personally

It would be yes but wouldnt be dead

Yup:

...the White House is planning to call on Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland to quit the EU.

Yeah I noticed after. These are the ones most likely (except Hungary) due to maritime sector being included in EU ETS and the FuelEU Maritime regulation. They will be hit hard.

Problem is, isn't part of the point to raise up even the bad ones?