Merry Christmas. Or not.
Merry Christmas. Or not.
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Yes. I am Grinch.
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So I am Jesus?
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hOrni Jesus
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I'm Ron Burgundy?
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I'd argue true Santa spirit is about giving freely which does against capitalism, and like all four, capitalism will exploit any popular figure. Grinch is antimaterialistic in nature but there's Grinch themed shit everywhere to buy.
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Yeah, the other three work, but this does the character of Santa dirty. He's not responsible for his image being exploited for profit any more than Jesus or the Grinch is.
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Yeah it really depends on if Santa purchases his presents, or magically clones/copies them.
Hmmm even then it's hard to point it in a particular direction.
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How is the Grinch anti-capitalist? Small-hearted Grinch hoards all the presents but his goal is to make others sad/not sing, iirc. And after his heart-soze increase he is more generous and contrite... but is either of those behaviors anti-capitalist?
If we stretch and pretend the Grinch returning stolen property is "generous sharing" and that's anti-capitalist then we'd probably have to rethink Santa too (even tho often used as a prop in commercials).
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The Grinch saw all the commercialized trappings of Christmas and hated it because that's what he thought it was all about. It was only after he saw the Whos still celebrating even without the commercialization that he understood the "true meaning of Christmas" and wanted to be nice to them instead.
The anti-capitalist part was his motivation in the first place. If anything, returning the stuff was an erosion of that belief (I don't think it was -- I think it was more neutral than that -- but if you had to debate it through that lens the point could be argued).
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The last time I saw this meme I argued that the grinch’s spot is better filled by the Reverend Billy and the church of stop shopping.
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The Jim Carrey one leans into the anti-consumerism messages, which I guess isn't explicitly anti-capitalist but they go hand in hand.
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The Jim Carrey one completely undermines the original story's message because the Grinch is right - the Whos really are materialistic assholes.
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Krampus?
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Pro christmas? Maybe not since saint nick is actually 6th of december. Depends on your locale. He punishes bad children (none of pro or against capitalism). I'd put him in the middle actually.
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Yeah I was kinda thinking smack in the middle lol. Krampus ties it all together!
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Santa gives presents without payment, so not pro-capitalism. Jesus had never heard of Christmas his whole life, and Christmas has pagan roots, so not quite sure how pro-christmas he would be
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Jesus: What is Christmas? People: A winter holiday to celebrate your birthday! Jesus: But I was born in the spring...
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The fuck does Santa have to do with capitalism?
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Maybe it's because Coca Cola invented basically everything about modern Santa and he has become a symbol of consumerism?
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And you lettim them do that like that? :o
Nah but honestly, giving each other gifts does not mean go to the local shop and pay a lot. You can instead spend effor and create something for someone. But the easy way is the commercial one. Like, you know, pre-commercial Santa, the actual Santa Claus
Though I'd lie if I said I don't connect cola and christmas :/
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The lore of Santa would suggest he's a socialist, but the reality of the tradition is that parents have to buy more shit for their kids because of him. So you could frame it either way.
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