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Trump administration announces $12 billion in one-time payments to farmers

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True MAGA farmers should reject payouts from the government, because that's socialism and socialism is BaAaAaD
- Lol yeah right. Ayn fucking Rand didn't even walk the walk when it came down to it.
- They should all go to Galt's Gulch.

Vast majority of this funding will get vacuumed up by corporate farms and continue to leave most small family/independents out to dry
- Unless everyone wants to be a farmer, large scale corporate farms are how we have to feed billions.
  
  I'm not so sure that's true. There is a shit load of land used to grow corn to make ethanol that's farmed by independent farmers. In the US most farmland is used for soy beans and corn for livestock feed or fuel. It wouldn't be a simple or cheap undertaking, but that last could be utilized more efficiently to directly or indirectly fees people.
  I would also bet there are enough people that would love to be farmers that can't because land isn't available or cheap that would step up if large farm operations were broken up. That's pure speculation, but even if one mega farm were split 4 ways, that would still be an improvement to the current situation.

"What we're doing is we're taking a relatively small portion of that [money we made off tariffs], and we're going to be giving and providing it to the farmers in economic assistance.“
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know... morons.
- Howard Johnson is right!
  
  Doctor Samuel Johnson is right about Orson Johnson being right.

So, he's taking our money that we're forced to pay due to his stupid tariffs and is using some of it to payoff his supporters who he screwed over with those same tariffs. So, forcing everyone else to clean up his messes. Classic trump.
- Sounds like OpenAI and Nvidia's circular investments.
  
  Or like the arsonist that is also a firefighter.
- The human centipede of corruption

Seeing this after reading about our military spending approaching one trillion $... It's a pittance. About 2% of the military budget. And as someone else said, most will be gobbled by corps. What a joke.

How much of that £12 bn is going to megacorporations versus small farmers?
- The small farmers are drowning in debt so that money will mostly go to the mega corps anyway. Shits fucked.

I’m trying to figure out here how much farmland is actually owned by farming families and not corporate entities or corporations operating under the “family” banner while being owned by a family that owns shitloads of farms, but I can’t find an honest answer here and the definition of family seems fucking dubious everywhere I’ve looked.

Once the small farmers realize Trump is coming for their land it will be too late.
- I mean, it's too late now, but they're going to keep gargling his balls right up until they're thrown out on their asses.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
- Oh they do. This is them taking that fear seriously and consolidating control.

So the argument is that since the executive is collecting the tariffs, it can spend them directly without Congress?
Isn't the IRS also an executive agency?
- Last time I checked they aren't making any arguments unless they are sued.
  Why Trump thinks he can spend any revenue without congressional permission is beyond me. It is clear his administration does not care for the rule of law. They are a criminal organization.

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