What's the Marxist position on Psychopathy and "ontologically evil" people in general?
What's the Marxist position on Psychopathy and "ontologically evil" people in general?
What's the Marxist position on Psychopathy and "ontologically evil" people in general?
Pretty easilsy explained:
Psychopathy from a marxist pov is not a problem as people who are in the west stigmatized for their traits, systematically discriminated and moralized against are an asset in socialist systems.
Think about it. Psychopathy is not a binary thing. It is an amalgamation of many spectra of more or less developed traits. Westerners often think our science is somehow "better" or "correct". It isnt. Its just a bunch of dudes (no women) figuring shit out and giving themselves airs.
This leads to the conclusion that " psychopath" is a slur in and of itself. It is another chauvinist function.
And if you have understood that, you understand that we are talking about normal people who have been born or nurtured into a situation where they have reduced empathy, hightened impulsivity, reduced fear, etc.
These people are excellent surgeons, mountain climbers, etc. In a socialist environment, they get what they need to exist well and thrive while being a conatructive part of society.
For those who still believe the myth of absolute evil: that is not a thing. Its a horror storry to sell weapons. Yes, it is possible that one goes off the path of constructivity, they get into a mental hospital and help, maybe training, we'll see.
Currently, the west is training roughly a billion people to become raging narcissists, sociopaths and so on. The west (ie capitalism) and its people at the top are objectively evil and they need to go.
The West encourages the dysfunction and malignancy of so called disorders. Ive heard it said and I agree that in general CEOs and other executives lean sociopathic, if not psychopathic, because the asocial characteristics of this behavior are emphasized encouraged and awarded in those spaces. Whereas a socio/psychopath without power is liable to take out the asocial conditioning of capitalism on their own communities.
Certified good posting, this put to words some more complicated thoughts I've been dwelling on while also broadening my perspective on the whole topic. Makes me want to get into an entirely new subject of reading. Banger job.
Thanks comrade. I appreciate the feedback. o7
@haui you are definatley right on with
For those who still believe the myth of absolute evil: that is not a thing. Its a horror storry to sell weapons.
I don't know if this matches the exact most up to date psychological definitions, but my understanding of it is:
From this and other things, I tend to extrapolate that people start with certain predispositions, but what is produced from these predispositions can vary quite a bit. I don't have a source on it offhand, but I recall for example a story of someone in a more communal culture who had "voices in their head" (in the clinical meaning that people would associate with debilitating schizophrenia) but for them, these voices were actually friendly and supportive.
So I would say, as a general rule:
The position on "psychopathy" is underdeveloped. Understanding of those with ASPD and other cluster-bs is in its infancy. You do not require a mental illness to be a selfish asshole, that passes for normal these days.
ontologicallly evil is just idealism per excellence. Psychology is also heavily based on capitalist base (as a superstructure) and often serves to "neutralify" and "make into nature" various conditions not conductive to productivity and exploitation. OG marxists even considered the entire field to be quack science in general. Not that I agree, but given how everyone and their mom nowadays uses clinical language/how psychology as a field is constructed as the factory line to fix labor alienation and the cognitive war against the individual waged by the empire. I can see why they doubted its usefulness.
Maybe my comment could be a bit unhelpful, but I'm studying psychology while being active in my organization, so I would argue that antisocial disorders/ psychopathy wouldn't make a person evil, but it's understandable where this adjective is coming from, I mean, you would see in someone with this disorder a lack of empathy.
There is absolutely a correlation between this type of disorder and the incarcerated population, since they would be more inclined to violent acts and a general disregard to law-abiding behaviours.
But I really do think that this discussion would be going beyond the good vs evil nature of mankind, and more in the bad or mad discussion, so if this condition could or should be considered in a lawsuit and things like that.
I also apologize for any mistakes, as English is not my first language.
TLDR: probably best to not look at that trough a necessarily political lense, but through a psychological one